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The Nostalgia Critic Thread Lives Again!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by frogboy4, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I would imagine he's got some clout, considering how long he's been connected with them; not to mention he seems to be their figure head, so-to-speak (well, moreso as Nostalgia Critic, but I notice a majority of content on CA is his, not to mention he speaks out on their issues, like the Fair Use issue and such).
  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    And I thought it was weird that Doug would do commentary videos on Nostalgia Critic, which is essentially reviewing his own stuff . . . but now, he's actually reviewing his own stuff:

    To be fair, apparently this review is intentionally meant to be meta, but still, I don't even know what my reaction to this is, other than the Critic is essentially reviewing the moment when he jumped the shark.
  3. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    He's done a number of those types of things for the "Best Of" DVDs. They had Bum Reviews of each of the anniversary movies (or most of them), and did NC reviews of them as he was stuck in the Plot Hole.
  4. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I watched the Grinch review for the first time, and I have to say that for Doug and Rob to write an entire review completely in rhyme is actually pretty impressive. Not to mention Doug's alleged godawful Boris Karloff impression is quite good.
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  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I find I can stomach these editorial episodes because he stays focused on the subject he's talking about as opposed to the unnecessary cavalcade of sketches done by additional castmembers.

    And this week's editorial is one I think we can all agree has been a subject we've discussed in great detail on here before:

    And holy crap! After all these years, he finally changed the credits font!
  6. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    The video should be why remakes should not happen.
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Holy crap, has it been ten years already?

    Guess that means Nostalgia Critic has only been good for half of those ten years. :p

    But in all seriousness, it's kind of hard to believe it's been ten years already, I still remember my first exposure to NC: summer of 2008 on a Chipmunk forum, somebody linked his review of the CARTOON ALL-STARS TO THE RESCUE special because of his meltdown over Simon knowing what marijuana is. I slowly began watching more and more NC overtime since then, but I don't believe I actually became an actual fan until a year or two later when I watched more and more episodes.

    I admire Doug for being able to do this kind of thing as a living, but like Oscarfan mentioned previously, I usually watch episodes where he reviews movies or shows I've actually seen.
  8. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I'm not into the whole "sketch" thing they do now.

    Honestly, I would much rather hear him just vlog about things, without the persona or character or anything. Also, I miss Bum Reviews.
  9. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    That's pretty much why when it comes to newer episodes, I pretty much just stick with the editorials he does whenever he discusses something like the rating system, or more recently when remakes shouldn't be made. And, ah, Bum Reviews, how I remember thee. . . .
  10. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    I really don't like how he's reviewing movies that are already in theaters, which means we have to put up with his stupid, unfunny sketch crew for the whole episode as he can't use footage from the movies. If it were just a one-off with the one that started it all, Jurassic World, I would have tolerated it. But he had to violate his little "I will only review movies that are out on DVD" policy multiple times, so that's what makes me peeved. And he even did this for Suicide Squad, which was already out on DVD already! :grr:
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  11. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Yeah, the sketch stuff usually isn't that great. But there have been some good recent episodes. And that's why I still watch the show, because for every couple of meh episodes there's usually a good one in there. Although, the best episodes are usually when they have less sketches.
    But what I really miss is the way he used to get so riled up and start screaming and cursing over how bad a movie was. Back then he was like someone who was constantly being tortured by being forced to watch crappy movies. These days he's more calm and tries to teach the audience lessons while making wisecracks. Basically, it's like he changed from Daffy Duck to Bugs Bunny when the show was revived. But, I get it. Character progression and all that. But I still miss how he used to be.

    Meanwhile, the 10th anniversary episode was alright. It was a review of Norm of the North, which people had been requesting for a long time. I'll admit, I was a little disappointed. I hoped there would've been cameos from popular characters like Hyper Fangirl and Devil Boner, and Satin, or Santa Christ, or Rob with the dinosaur head, maybe even some of his most famous guests (even just short cameos) like Lindsay Ellis or AVGN or Black Nerd. It could've been so epic, but the only mention we got was NC saying it was the 10th anniversary at the beginning of the episode. Granted, this is all just my expectations getting in the way, and not at all Doug and Rob's fault. But for a show as long running and influential as this, I thought it would've been bigger.
  12. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    IKR, that was one of his big unwritten rules when he rebooted Nostalgia Critic in the first place . . . but then again, just the fact that he started reviewing modern, recent, and contemporary movies in the first place pretty much defeated the purpose of Nostalgia Critic altogether.

    As for doing sketches specifically in place of lack of footage, I heartell that was something they started doing in an attempt to try and work around YouTube's crappy copyright system, but apparently even that wasn't enough to put a curb on their copyright strikes or third party claims.

    As I've said many times before, I find that the sketches or framing devices, whichever they use, just really disjoint and disrupt the whole review in general. I didn't mind it back in the day when he and/or Rob would do something brief and quick for comedic effect (like the milk commercial parody in the ERNEST SCARED STUPID review), but otherwise, including an entire cast for multiple sketches just add nothing to the show.
    Yes! That's what got me so hooked in the first place, I loved it when he would fly off the handle: the screechier and more outraged he got, the funnier ("He paid with wrenches? WHY WOULD HE PAY WITH WRENCHES?! IT MAKES NO SENSE!!!") Then again, he started out a little more subdued and a tad repressed in his ranting, and I remember listening to one of commentaries, in which he said it was because he wasn't sure what direct he wanted to go in with the Critic's demeanor, and actually figured if he kept getting more and more angry, it would be less funny, only to discover the results were the exact opposite. Like I said, that was one of the big draws for me when I started watching more and more: there's been times where his screaming like a banshee, pounding his fists on his desk, going into his little mind****s, and what have you had me laughing-crying/crying-laughing because it was always so hysterical. Sometimes it's not even the ranting that got the biggest laughs out of me, sometimes it was just in the delivery of certain lines, ("****ING BUBBLES!") or his voice imitations, ("Come on, She-Ra, let's go find some evil doers! Maybe we can stop by the cigar store on the where there!"), or stating the obvious of the strangeness of something he's reviewing (recreating the odd GORDY shot), or even just a zinger after a certain clip got some of the biggest laughs out of me too.

    But I agree, the more somber and low-key Critic is like if Oscar decided to stop being grouchy, or if Grover decided he wasn't going to be helpful anymore, or if Telly stopped worrying about everything. I don't even know if this was a conscious effort, like if this was something Doug decided to do intentionally, or if it was some sort of a natural progression or what.
    I kind of would have liked more of a clip-show kind of thing, but I know how much people hate clip-shows nowadays since the internet has rendered them mostly pointless . . . and, I guess considering he's done commentaries and reviews of his own reviews, that wouldn't have been necessary. Regardless, a 10th anniversary retrospective as such would have been nice.

    He did, however, also do a thank you video as well. I guess in the old days, he literally was doing NC in his parents' basement. ><
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  13. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    But, anyway, i'd like to step away from complaining and go back to the positive.

    I've been watching NC since 2011. It's really changed my life. My sense of humor, my outlook on life, and the way I view movies are all different because of it. And it's lead me to even more internet critics I love like Cinema Snob, Rap Critic, the Nostalgia Chick and many more.

    I'll never, ever forget the day I discovered the Nostalgia Critic. It was a really boring summer day, and I had been looking at a bunch of Sesame Street videos on YT. I saw the NC's review of Follow That Bird in my recommendations, so I decided to check it out. Boy, did it exceed my expectations! At the time, I thought it was the funniest thing i'd ever seen. Plus, Follow That Bird was and is my favorite movie, so that's extra points in my book. My sisters and I still quote the episode to this day ("And they're like jump, and he's like no, then they're like jump, and he's like no, and they're like jump, and he's like okay") and ("Dude, this is his home. What is your deal? Go back to Russia!"). Now i've seen literally every single episode of the show.
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  14. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Don't forget the Mysterious Mr. Enter as well. ;)

    But I will say I do believe that Doug probably has had some of the biggest influence on the internet like Jerry Seinfeld had for television: so many other reviewers and critics who have followed and cropped up in recent years probably have him to thank for essentially paving the way and setting the standard for such reviewing formats.
    One of my favorite episodes too.

    "MeanwhileBertandErnieareflyingandSuperGroverisflyingandOscarisflyingexceptonthegroundandCookieMonsteratehiscarbecausehethoughtitwasacookie! I thought my car was a cookie once too! But it wasn't a cookie. Or a car. It was man."
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  15. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Yep. Well, him and AVGN. I don't think they could've started their shows at a more perfect time.
  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I confess that while I don't necessarily watch a whole lot of AVGN (mainly because I'm not a gamer), James Rolfe's story hits very close to home:

    I'm not lying, much of what he did in his earlier years are some of the exact same things I did as well: stopping and recording with the raw footage being the completed project because of no way of editing? Exactly what I had to do as well. I also agree with his sentiment that cheap and fake special effects and props and such are much more engaging and really shows off the creativity moreso than a lot of the CGI stuff done in movies today.

    I've watched some of his films, and they're really interesting; while horror is not usually my thing, he's a very good storyteller (even if the acting in his films is only subpar), and I can appreciate the lengths he went to to tell his stories.
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  17. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well, as long as we're discussing the 10th anniversary, why don't we discuss some of our favorite episodes from these past ten years? I pretty much already got the Cartoon All-Stars and FTB reviews out of the way, a few of my other favorites include. . . .

    • SUPER MARIO BROS. - My biggest laugh is the brief Brokeback-esque montage of Mario and Luigi when the Critic's literal mind mistakes them for father and son and brothers.
    • SPACE JAM - The Critic flipping out over Lola and her bunny boobies makes me laugh (and FYI, bunnies actually do have something similar to boobies).
    • CAPTAIN PLANET - The show never bothered me, but the Critic's take on it is interesting; I also like his reaction to the times they tackled heavier issues like HIV and gang violence ("Yo-yo, I'm gunna drop a wicked-dawg dookie in the back of yo be-hind, mindly annoying acquaintance!")
    • TOM AND JERRY: THE MOVIE - The Mind****. Need I say more? Well, that, and the reaction to Dr. Applecheeks seemingly about to attempt to sexually assault the ice cream cart.
    • GOOD BURGER - Mainly for his memeworthy comments about Abe Vigoda.
    • TWISTER - His comments about Cary Elwes, this fake product shilling throughout, Ozzy Osbourne, "HOOOORRRRRRRSE!!!"
    • ROCK-A-DOODLE - A movie I really liked from my childhood.
    • THE HE-MAN & SHE-RA CHRISTMAS SPECIAL - Mainly for his imitation of Orko in the end, but some of the other comments are funny as well.
    • TOP 11 VILLAIN SONGS - This episode really got me through an awkward dark period I was going through.
    • HOME ALONE 3 - While he gets a lot of the movie's details wrong in his review, the way he plays up how John Hughes went from slightly dark humor to overly kiddified slapstick movies is amusing to watch.
    • A TROLL IN CENTRAL PARK - Seriously one of the worst movies ever made, and certainly Don Bluth's worst of all time, and the Critic really serves as a reminder of how and why the movie was so bad. In all seriousness, I saw the movie once as a kid when my daycare group was taken to it, and honestly, the Critic mentions in the review that he didn't even show half of the junk from the movie, and what he does show is actually even more than what I remembered seeing - that's how bad the movie was. That, and his running gag of calling up Stanley the Troll to chew him out and Stanley oblivous to his rage is hilarious.
    • ERNEST SCARED STUPID - Highlight is the Critic's almost fangirl-like excitement when Rimshot lives. That and his tongue-in-cheek comment about how ***** the little girl must have been while filming is chuckleworthy.
    • IT - No specific reason.
    • ROVER DANGERFIELD - Again, no specific reason.
    • THE MAGIC VOYAGE - The torture he goes through just reviewing this one.
    • GORDY - The little moments, like the crap-loaded conversation between Gordy and the rooster, recreating the awkward "Virgin Douchebag" shot, and his enthusiasm over "Pig Power in the House."
    • JAMES AND THE GIANT PEACH - "Rhinoth. They thcare little boyth. Athathinating parenth won't bring 'em much joy, that'th Randy."
    • FELIX THE CAT: THE MOVIE - Again, the sheer torture he goes through reviewing this one is hysterical.
    Just to name a few.
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  18. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    NC just reviewed Cats Don't Dance, which was something he once said he would never review, at least like he would normally do. And I gotta say, it felt more like a classic review in spite of him not being harsh on it. No stupid sketches that drag on forever or anything like that.

    And I think this has some level of watchability for adults in that it satirizes Golden Age Hollywood, something that kids wouldn't pick up on until they rewatch the film when they grow up. Same deal with Who Framed Roger Rabbit?.

  19. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    I honestly think they're phasing out the sketches a bit. They haven't been used much recently. But maybe that's because of those reviews that are entirely just sketches and no clips from the actual movie.
  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    This is exactly the reason I always wanted NC to review certain movies: not because they were bad, but because they had an impact on those who saw them . . . that, and I just wanted to see his reactions to them as well - like PEE-WEE'S BIG ADVENTURE, I always wanted to see his reactions to some of the bizarre and strange things that happen in that movie.

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