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Top Annoying Misnaming People Do

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by beaker, Dec 16, 2009.

  1. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    I agree, I can't blame people for not knowing Disney owns the Muppets. The news of their buy was almost 6 years ago, and it has fallen way back into people's memory. And they insist on pupping "Muppet Studios" or "Muppets Holding LLC" on all the products or ads/clips/sites, which I think is kind of cool.

    I never heard the "Ernie died of AIDS" or "Jim Henson died of AIDS" thing; however for people to understand why there is a Muppet character with AIDS(Kami) they have to first understand the absolute seriousness and dire situation of pediatric AIDS in many African countries. People in America are just ignorant.
  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Yeah, Richard Hunt, sadly, is the one who died of AIDS, such a tragedy, but at least he took it well.

    Not to be a nitpicker or anything, but Kami doesn't have AIDS, she is HIV+... which DOES lead to AIDS, but not really that much of an issue. In respect to some of my friends here, I'm not going to go into a discussion as why there's a common misconception with Americans about HIV/AIDS which caused the outrage over Kami... but I will admit, a friend of mine in Israel asked me why Americans did make such a big deal out of a Muppet character being HIV+, and I explained to her the misconception that plagues America regarding the disease.
  3. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    , and I couldn't help but think... when? When did we ever see that character in merchandise? I know they mean well, but when people ask if a character was in any commercially available merchandise that doesn't exist... well, it gets me annoyed that it doesn't exist myself.

    I don't see the problem with that question. I have figures of Thog, Mahna Mahna, Snowth 1 and 2, Pops, Male and Female Koozebane, Croaker(KSY), Sesame Martian, Newsman, etc. They've made a LOT of rare figures.

    As I've always said, most Americans are not just ethno-geocentric, but either plain clueless or massively ignorant.
    People would do good to see When Muppets Dream Of Peace or The World According to Sesame Street.

    Yep, I remember the(albeit sometimes truncated) TMS/MB combo Nick Jr often played. And even before that, back in the mid to late 80's TMS was always on.

    Also, Mahna Mahna(or least a close cousin) was on Sesame Street:)

    Heh, I don't consider Elmo a Muppet nor even acknowledge his existence:)
  4. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Well, I literally thought Big Bird was a female character til I think just a few years ago. I just don't get how the character is a male.
  5. Boober_Gorg

    Boober_Gorg Well-Known Member

    Cory, I remember you pronouncing "Spinney" as "Spy-ney" ... :eek: :p
  6. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    I could've sworn I saw a sketch of Rowlf of Jim Henson's or something that says "Ralph". Also, on Muppet Family Christmas, Fozzie clearly calls him Ralph. I think "Rowlf" is Rowlf's way of saying "Ralph", kinda like how Scooby speaks in "doggie" English.
  7. GonzoLeaper

    GonzoLeaper Well-Known Member

    These two are just from people not knowing grammar.
    Dr. Bunsen Honeydew is named after a scientific instrument- a Bunsen burner, which in turn is named after Robert Bunsen.
    (I'm guessing the Honeydew part is from honeydew melon.)
    And Beaker is named after a scientific instrument- a beaker. That's how the word is spelt.
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Poppycock! The Chef never cooked a Danish in his life! :hungry:

    Sure they didn't get it confused with These guys?
  9. muppet maniac

    muppet maniac Well-Known Member

    My list of the most annoying misconceptions I've heard people make:

    -Cookie Monster being changed to the Veggie Monster, being written off, etc.

    -Labeling The Muppet Show as a "kid's" show

    -Early episodes of Sesame Street inappropriate for today's children...with most of the blame going to Cookie Monster and Oscar

    -Labeling Creature Shop works (Dark Crystal, Labyrinth, etc.) as "Muppets", when they're clearly not.
  10. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    I know I'm probably going to repeat some here but...

    I got annoyed when people called Kermit the Frog, Hermit the Frog (yes I've heard people say that)
    Labeling the Muppet show as a "kid's show" I mean sure kids can enjoy but it wasn't dumb down so that ONLY kids can enjoy it.
    Mispelling Fozzie as Fozzy or Janice as Janis
    calling Animal a "muppet monster"
    When people say things like Labyrinth, Dark Crystal and Dinosaurs are muppets, when actually they were "creatures"
    When people call Miss. Piggy, Mrs. Piggy (I know it's a little detail, but it's still annoying)

    As for as misconceptions and/or urban legends go...
    the whole Kami thing (as mention)
    A Sesame Street Muppet either has died or will die soon, usually Ernie, Bert or Grover falls into this group and it usually cause of cancer, aids, or a car accident.
    Bert and Ernie are gay, that's one I wish would just die already the most. (I mean it's one thing when shows like Madtv or Family Guy make jokes about that, but it really annoys me when people think that's an honest to god fact and in some cases actually attack them for that)
    Cookie Monster being changed to Veggie Monster
    Oscar the Grouch is an "evil character" on Sesame Street (I don't know why, but that one really bugs me) and he's gotten a lot "softer" or "nicer" over the years. The fact is Oscar gets annoyed by other Sesame Street characters, but he still cares for them. He doesn't want to see bad things happen to them or anything like that.
  11. Gelfling Girl

    Gelfling Girl Well-Known Member

    Ugh...I was on Ebay, and one of the listed items was "Oscar 'I Hate Mornings' Tee-Shirt" and it clearly had an image of Animal on it.

    Also, as quoted from Wikipedia:
    Seriously, was there any time on anything OFFICIAL in which her name was spelled that way?
  12. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I just remembered one: When people complain Cookie Monster is now the Veggie Monster. I swear, in English earlier this year, 3 students just found out that were obsessed with it.
  13. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    On Halloween, when I wore my Super Grover costume everyone in my grade got to go down to my old elementary school where my mom works now. I stopped by the class she teaches in and all the kids thought I was Elmo. I told my mom about this later and she told me the bitter truth: Most younger kids don't watch PBS anymore, they go right to the Disney Channel. :eek:

    Oh, and I was continually mistaken for Cookie Monster by just about everyone else except for most of my older classmates and teachers.

    The whole Gonzo/Grover mix-up I've gotten pretty used to. Let's not deny it, the two puppets do look fairly similar (blue fur, wide eyes, close personality traits) despite the obvious differences (Gonzo's beak, Grover barely wears clothes, etc.).

    It sends shivers down my spine that everyone blew the Veggie Monster thing out of proportion. Even when I tell people he still eats cookies, they don't believe me one bit. :insatiable:

    Most people my age don't know about Kami, but when I mention her everyone I've talked to about it clearly supports the effort.
  14. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Oh Sesame Workshop put that label on their "old school" dvds themselves.

    I guess, modern parents are horrified at the sight of inner city kids in real inner city neighborhoods or something.
  15. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I hope that's sarcasm.
  16. dwmckim

    dwmckim Well-Known Member

    I can excuse pretty much any mistakes from a little kid - hey, even a young girl who was either a huge Muppet fan and/or had a parent that was who had a chance to go up onstage on the Bonnie Hunt Show and see Oscar up close thought she was seeing Elmo (to which Oscar hilariously replied "I've never been so insulted in my life!")
    Powerstars likes this.
  17. GonzoLeaper

    GonzoLeaper Well-Known Member

    First off- that's funny about Oscar on The Bonnie Hunt Show! lol:grouchy::)

    Seriously? That's awesome! I knew about Miss Piggy's picture showing on a Sesame Street sketch, but I didn't realize Dr. Teeth's photo was in a sketch too! Cool! I will have to look this up now.:D
  18. SkeksisGirl

    SkeksisGirl Member

    The thing that bugs me the most is when people tell me that Jim Henson died of AIDS because he was gay... That makes me want to strangle them.
  19. Gelfling Girl

    Gelfling Girl Well-Known Member

    People have actually said that? :concern: I don't blame you for wanting to strangle them.
  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I've honestly never heard this until the other night, and I don't know who started that, but it's so obviously not true, because we all know that Jim married his high school sweet heart, had five kids, and even though they separated, they remained good friends... he's even dated Daryl Hannah.

    AIDS relating to homosexuality is a bit of a stereotype anymore; I remember shortly after Dick Sargent (Darrin #2) came out, he was diagnosed with cancer, and was so afraid that people were going to assume he was dying of AIDS simply because he was gay - not everyone who's gay has AIDS, and not everyone who's gay and dies died of AIDS. It's sad that it's happened that way to some, including Richard, but it doesn't happen to everyone like that. In a way, that's like saying ALL obese people die of heart attacks/strokes, or ALL women die of breast cancer, etc.

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