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ToyFare: Allen hints at something "so big"...

Discussion in 'Action Figures' started by Phillip, Jul 15, 2004.

  1. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    except sales for 8 and 9 are already in. By the time 9 sells at retail 10 would have already had to be in production (olds, paints, and the figures being made). The orders should be in by now and 10 should be up for pre-order.
     
  2. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Back that up. Where's Ken's quote, or anybody else at Palisades' quote, regarding this?

    I think it's doing better than you think it is, especially for a franchise like the Muppets, which is definitely designated to a collectors' market.
     
  3. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    All I can say is I know something you don't know for certain reasons I am not allowed to say.
     
  4. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Ken has kinda said it multiple times. Sales aren't as great as they would like and it looked like retail line could end at S10. On a positive note S8 sales have been better than expected but fewer figures were manufactured.

    Right now the collectable action figure industry is about to go into a big slump. Companies like Palisades who focus mainly on the specialist side and the small comic retailers are going to be hit pretty bad. It's gonna come at a bad time for Palisades with Muppets, Zim, Crittaz and Freakables all due out and aimed at the hardcore collectors. I think Fairly Oddparents will be a big hit for them with the kid crossover though if they can market it right. Pink Panther is another license that has more mass market appeal but i haven't really heard anything yet to say if they've been accepted that well or not.
     
  5. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    Luke, you have an e-mail.
     
  6. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Well, that stinks. I suppose by then all that we'd NEED in the collection will be made, but there is still so much that could come from the line. People need to start buying these toys!!! I wonder if the lack of more Kermit and main 5 is a reason the line doesn't pick up so well?
     
  7. Bean Bunny

    Bean Bunny New Member

    The Muppet Babies could help the line, alot.
     
  8. rexcrk

    rexcrk Well-Known Member

    For me, one of the biggest things would be if they re-released some of the stuff from the first three series w/o alterations or color changes what-so-ever... but I doubt that would happen :p
     
  9. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    That's what I was wondering about, because a lot of folks won't pick things up without having all the main characters, and while we're still getting Sam and some other wonderful stuff, lots of folks (a friend of mine for example) won't buy them because they can't get main/signature characters like Kermit or Piggy anymore.

    However, a few Star Wars fans I know did buy the Swinetrek playset and crew members, but that was all.
     
  10. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    I don't think it's about the end of the line, more about things being slow at retail. They've set up www.palisadesdirectstore.com so they can start putting out things directly. It's probably at the point where most people buying them are the hardcore collectors and Palisades don't have access to the earlier sculpts but it'd certainly help people if they did a few signature re-releases (but in slightly different styles so as not to alienate the people who paid a lot earlier). I don't think the Muppet fans are ready for differing expressions though - that even went flat with the Simpsons. I've been kinda angling for more themed stuff - like horror/movie spoofs and more vacations and superheroes. I think that, with a mix of obscures and enhanced signature re-releases would keep up interest with the consumer base they have.

    I'd love to see things like a "Men In Plaid" 2 pack, SuperShrimp Pepe, Vacation Gonzo, Universal Monsters Kermit & Piggy etc. Sometimes i think they've gone a bit too obscure for retail and some of the things we saw as exclusives would have made great selling figures at TRU/Target etc.
     
  11. Cap Backfire

    Cap Backfire New Member

    So we're down to this...

    So can anyone out there denounce Wiggy's assumption that the line will end before series 9 comes out??? Personally, I would really love the line to make it at LEAST that far since we need Sal and I really can't live without Deadly... OK, I would live, but the love would be gone from my soul...

    So yeah, someon tell me different than what Wigs is saying, cause the "I know something you don't know" thing is ominous indeed. :boo:

    Any help here would be appreciated.

    Josh
     
  12. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    I denouce it. Forget everything I said.
     
  13. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    I like you again now, Wigs. ;)
     
  14. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    Ken just said over at Palisades that Series 10 will now not be in 2004, and that they are waiting to see how S9 and the backstage sells before they consider releasing more retail items in 2005. They are taking things one wave at a time now apparently, gotta keep buying the figures.

    I think we'll see the series 10 figures somehow whatever way things work out though, must have spent a lot of money on the pre-production.
     
  15. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    I'm buying these figures! I'm buying all the ones I can get my hands on--I haven't been able to find variant chase figures sometimes, but I still buy them when I can...even to the point of going without some food (believe it or not).

    C'mon gang! BUY BUY BUY!!!
     
  16. rexcrk

    rexcrk Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I'm definitely buying them too! And just to be on the safe side, I pre-ordered Pops, Fozzie, and Swedish Chef from ebgames.com and once I finish doing some odd jobs around the house, my dad said he'd order me backstage! And as soon as ebgames.com decides to put up the regular version of Lips, I'll buy him too. However I don't really go for the repaints. I just like have one of each figure. The only repaint I ever got was the purple-ish tuxedo version of Johnny. And that was only to make sure that I got a figure of Johnny (just in case I couldn't get the pinstripes). Re-molds are another thing though ;) (a great example is Series 2 Gonzo to Series 5 Gonzo). I would get the repaints but as a collector who doesn't have a job or anything, I decided mainly to focus on the main collection.
     
  17. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    I hope in August I get plenty of Money for gifts, so I don't have to scrounge so much to get money to buy more figures and things.
     
  18. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    So things changed a little. Cool. THough this means no christmas muppets this year which totally bums me out. But at least I get to keep my cash until 2005 now. I just ordered series 9 at an incredible price along with the back stage. Saved a bundle.

    A full set of 7 is going for 55 dollars. Since the figures are suppose to go up to 11 dollars each in series 9, I saved 22 bucks! I basically got the 2 Lips variants free. Plus I got free shipping. Very cool. While I liked the servise at Killertoys.com, and would buy from them if prices were equal, I am cheap at heart and have to go with te low low cost at EBgames.com. I do know that I won't get my figures until november or even december though. EB is slow.

    Since series 8 sold out, I think it does hinder on series 9 now and they seem to be waiting for actual sales instead if retail sales. I would bet that if we do get series 10 in feb of 2005, that we will only get 2 or 3 series total. This is simply a hunch. With the price increase it will be interesting to see if series 9 sells out. Series 8 seems to be doing fairly well, though that is do to figure rarity. My Suncoast STILL hasn't stocked them because they have an entire case of series 7 (and maybe a little more).
     
  19. KermieBaby47

    KermieBaby47 Well-Known Member

    There's your Christmas Muppets!
     
  20. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    Oh yeah, that's true. But I don't want to wait until the 25th to open them! NOOO!!!!!
     


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