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TV Alert: Grover and Telly on Fox and Friends May 31

Discussion in 'Sesame Appearances' started by Phillip, May 30, 2012.

  1. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    A Fox News segment producer created an expensive 4 minute anti-Obama "advertisement" that led to conclusions and aired it during their NEWS segment.

    MSNBC's Chris Matthews created a brief Romney "blooper reel" several months ago before he was the Republican nominee and aired it during their ENTERTAINMENT programming.

    I'm not a fan of either practice, but the difference is that one is legal, the other is not.

    If Chris Matthews had been anchoring NBC nightly news and aired that piece he would be fired and the network would be fined.
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    So, how about Fox's funding of the Tea Party or their donation of millions of dollars to the Republican Governors Association in 2010? They've surpassed just having a biased to undermining the government. And this from an organization owned by someone who's having problems with illegal wire tapping in the media he owns in the UK. It's complete and utter illegal activities all around.

    I absolutely despise the 24/7 cable media crapfest we have, MSNBC or Fox. They're both complete garbage and both sides should stick to entertainment and leave news to REAL professionals that apparently no longer exist.
  3. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    I haven't and won't go into all of that. That sort of digging finds bodies all around. It is unfortunate that Fox News is owned by the world's tabloid king. When you break it down, all news networks are owned by entertainment conglomerates. 20th Century Fox, Time-Warner, Viacom, Disney and Comcast-owned NBCUniversal.
  4. Vincent L

    Vincent L Well-Known Member

    Can someone tell me where I can watch this online? I don't have FOX news here. (and even if I did, it airs at midnight)

    And also: I'm glad I'm not old enough to be in politics.
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Ah yes. That 1990's Clinton signed FCC deregulation. The same bill that ruined children's TV cartoons that I'm constantly whining about.

    I don't feel like posting the SNL TV Funhouse "Mediaopoly" sketch again.
  6. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    [Directly on topic] Does anyone have any info about the particular content of this latest Sesame effort and what this covers that hadn’t been covered in previous media created for military families? [/topic]

    [Side Topic] Okay, I’m going to lend one more post about this controversy before I drop it. I have seen both segments in full and this is the skinny and a link to where you can view both clips if anyone is interested.

    Chris Matthews’ political entertainment program “Hardball” did in fact air a 90 second parody piece last February, long before Romney became the Republican nominee. It was made to resemble “The Artist.” The theme of the piece was “Mitt, Better-Off Mute.” It catalogs one Mitt Romney stump speech blooper where he says,”I love this state. It’s right here. Trees are the right height. ” The piece was shown via the smaller screen-within-the screen method to make sure viewers knew that this is not the news portion of MSNBC programming and did not reflect the opinions of the network even though this just poked fun of Romney’s speaking skills and not his politics. Matthews has aired Obama and Hilary gaffes just like this before. So while this isn’t ideal and does portray his political leanings, it doesn’t count in the same arena as a news-sponsored campaign advertisement. Immediately following the clip, Hardball devoted 50 seconds of light criticism directed toward Hilary Clinton pertaining to the hypocrisy of her overseas partisan stumping for President Obama after she said she would stay away from the practice.

    Fox News’ “Fox & Friends” morning news magazine aired a 4-minute partisan piece titled “Obama-Then and Now” that admittedly took weeks to produce. It is a short film that began with a titlecard that reads “Fox & Friends Presents Hope & Change.” It wasn’t about a candidate’s silly fumbling during his speeches. The piece directly cites several of the President’s statements and then draws conclusions about campaign issues with slick graphics made to clearly illustrate the Republican viewpoint. This is a Fox News produced direct attack on a Democratic candidate. It has a political narrative that was constructed in an editing room. When this campaign advertisement is over, the Fox & Friends news reporters praise the piece and they cut to commercial.

    Fox News Channel is now stating that producer Chris White had gone rogue in his assembling and airing of Wednesday’s controversial piece. He will likely lose his job over it. Interestingly enough he was going to leave for CNN and they now have declined him employment due to this recent breech of ethics.

    This is apples and oranges.
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Making an example and delegating the blame before any legal recourse can be taken and let it tarnish their "completely flawless record." Seems like a commonplace corporate move.

    Still, they'll let this crap happen again and again and come off clean.
  8. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    MSNBC fired Olbermann for much lesser offenses for off-air activities. He was funny sometimes, but I was never much a fan of his righteous indignation. The other networks get in the mud yet employ the usual CYA moves to cover their butts that Fox doesn't bother with. I think that's the real difference. Playing by the rules.
  9. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Turns out they're not even going to fire the guy behind it after all

    The FCC's just something people call on to overreact to television content old fogeys find unacceptable now, isn't it?
  10. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    Wow! I honestly believe that Fox gets a pass on this because their buffoonish handing of the airwaves provides a feast for so many news sources and makes their competition look better in comparison. Just one of these offenses would have gotten someone fired at any of the other networks. Yes, their all slanted to some extent but they play by the rules. This will be another item (like calling the First Lady the racist term of "Baby Mama") that will get swept under the carpet and it will join the catalog of items they pretend never happened. Again, I'm glad this didn't occur on the day Grover and Telly were there.

    Back on topic. Does anyone know what the message of the latest program for military families that sets it apart from the other ones?
  11. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    Back on focus, I just saw the clips on Tough Pigs and now understand what this new USO program is about. I'm now intrigued by Katie the military kid-muppet and the fact that this appears to be a costumed show rather than a puppet program. I wonder who lends the vocal performance for the character.
    I'm not a fan of the Fox & Friends program or its hosts, but it seems they showed up in good form for this segment even if some of them didn't do their homework before hand. The Muppet Show theme was a little jarring and strange. Spiffy bus!!!​
  12. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Sorry, Im more offended my Muppets are being used to promote war mongering on FOX NEWS(of all places) than the misplacement of names. Fox News was one of the main networks selling the LIES and total fabrications that got the US into Iraq, and all around has been literally one of the most racist, hate filled and zealously biased networks on television. But this normalization of war using Jim Henson(who was all about peace)'s beloved characters...even after we learn the US military has been using classic Sesame Street songs to torture detainees.

    "Supporting the military"...thats fine, but my heart also goes for all the countless innocent Muslims who have died or been horribly wounded/psychologically scarred from these wars too.

    Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who sees this insanity for what it is.
  13. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    I have no problem with this, other than Fox is against Obama for the wrong reasons. They hate him for fictitious reasons like every other misinformed conservative. Liberal progressives such as myself take issue with him for real reasons(murdering countless Muslims with bombs and drones, continuing most of Bush-Cheney's Orwellian police state tactics, acting above the law, assassination programs, being in the pocket of wall street, being deeply involved in endless corporate contributions, etc) The only positive thing I can say about Obama is he has seemed supportive of LGBT rights...everything else has been the anathema of what his supporters believe in.
  14. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    That TV Funhouse "Conspiracy Theory School House Rocks" thing was brilliant. I'd love to see a modern one.

    TV Cable news IS a mixed bag. And I will say both Fox and MSNBC have good and bad. Fox has aired a number of documentaries which I felt were really good, and was shocked they even allowed them. They even have shows like Judge Napoliatano which is stuff he'd be banned for speaking during the Bush years. MSNBC has good stuff like Dylan Ratigan and (sometimes) Rachel Maddow. I sometimes like Chris Matthews(his episodes going head on with tea party/birthers was classic) But then MSNBC has so many Obama worshipping fluff pieces, Im reminded how theyre almost the twin of Fox News. They have these "terrorism" experts and other DC thinktank wonks who scare the public with "al Qaeda" and "evil Muslims out to get us" op-ed pieces ala Fox News.

    MSNBC has staunchly been for gay rights, has allowed criticism of Israel, allows anti war people like Jeremy Scahill to be commentators, and allows criticism of Obama. I applaud Rachel Maddow for exposing the whole Uganda propaganda.

    Otherwise I'd say I'd rather watch RT news or more alternative leftist sites.
  15. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Well, if the "terrorists" can have a kid's show...hey why not

  16. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Yeah they pretty much are. Bottom line, people enjoy belonging to a group and hating the other side and these cable channels feed on that. For that matter politicians feed on that. Neither party cares about us beyond election year yet we fall for their nonsense every time. Bush used religion to get elected. Obama is using gay rights to get elected. After the election they'll go back to caring only for themselves.
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but for the sake of the argument, conservatives don't care about things like that. At least the conservative viewpoint Fox has. After all, they were the ones who staunchly supported those wars, EVEN when some conservatives finally wised up about how much money was being wasted over there. True conservatism is closer to Libertarianism in so much as being isolationist. I know people who were conservative complaining about the wars, even when it wasn't popular to do so.

    Still, I find this whole secret Muslim socialist crap a pile of hooey. Heck, I wish there was even a grain of truth to that. Then we'd at least see some effort to raise taxes on the war profiteers that egged us on.

    Still, that's asking conservatives to find fault with Obama for the very same things their party does that they don't mind or don't realize their party is doing. And in greater numbers.

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