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Underrated Movies

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by BobThePizzaBoy, Jul 29, 2010.

  1. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    Might as well try to balance out the negativity in other thread. :shifty::)

    Gremlins 2: The New Batch, the rare Hollywood sequel that sweeps the floor with the movie that preceded it. I'd say it's Joe Dante's masterpiece and the plot is, in fact, very strong especially for such a Looney Tunes-inspired film.

    UHF, one of the funniest movies of the 1980's hands down, made me a Weird Al fan. It's a bit dated but it's thankfully beginning to find an audience.

    The Adventures of Rocky & Bullwinkle. Say what you will, I don't think this movie deserved to be grilled as much as it is. My local FOX station aired it like a month ago and I was cracking up the whole time I was watching it. It's not a perfect movie but it's still a heck of a lot better than some live-action/animation films.

    The Princess and the Frog, a film that was a complete victim of bad timing. It's really a shame because it's such a sweet movie. And much better music than I anticipated, I was still somewhat bitter about Lasseter getting rid of Alan Menken and getting Randy Newman to do the score but when I finally saw the movie, that all went away.

    The Hunchback of Notre Dame, one of my all-time favorite Disney movies. Yes, it is darker and more serious than other Disney fare and yes, the tone is very uneven but this film really does deserve more recognition. It's themes and message ring as true as the ones of any of the best Disney's films. How this barely made $100 million I'll never understand.

    Cats Don't Dance. It's one of my very favorite animated movies and WB basically dumped this excellent film in theaters with no fanfare. Which is a crying shame because I can't rave about this film enough.
  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    This is actually on my list of Top 10 Movies I Like That Everyone Else Hates.
    The Hunchback of Notre Dame, one of my all-time favorite Disney movies. Yes, it is darker and more serious than other Disney fare and yes, the tone is very uneven but this film really does deserve more recognition. It's themes and message ring as true as the ones of any of the best Disney's films. How this barely made $100 million I'll never understand.[/quote]While I quite like this movie myself, I wouldn't necessarily say it's under-rated... I think it just gets panned a bit, because of a lot of the psuedo-religious undertones and such.

    As for myself, there's at least three movies I have to point out...

    13 Going On 30, The Day After Tomorrow and Radio. All three of these were really great movies, in my opinion, but I guess they didn't sit well with critics... all three of them seem to only be played on FX anymore at any given random moment, and 13 Going on 30 and Radio are always in those "these movies suck, so let's toss them into the $5-$9 DVD discount bin" at Walmart. 13 Going on 30 may be a quirky chick-flick and The Day After Tomorrow probably annoys Republicans because of it's messages about Global Warming and such, but really, Radio deserves more credibility, the performances are great, the direct was superb, the script was heart-warming and touching... and it was all based on a true story.
  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I only really saw it once... didn't that basically make fun of the first one? I really enjoyed it.

    Other than the fact the Mary Sue character of Karen Sympathy dragged the film down, this one did its research. We even had the Pottsylvanian national anthem which was used only once in one episode. The casting was dead on, we had a Jay Ward devotee do all the male cartoon voices and June Foray reprising her own roles. It really didn't deserve half the snotting it got, I agree... especially since Dudley Do-Right was by far a worse movie with bad concepts throughout. The new Fractured Fairy Tale was great, though.

    As far as underrated movies go...

    Emperor's New Groove. Disney treated this movie like absolute crap while prodding out it's primped and pressed 102 Dalmatians suckfest. I've heard all the "Oh, it was supposed to be Kingdom of the Sun and the emperor loved his country." I'm sorry, but that sounds dreadfully dry and would probably turn out to be a ripoff of another Japanese movie/series that Disney somehow didn't know about. Instead, we get an Emperor who deserves to be turned into a Llama, and we'd almost root for the one who did it to him, if she wouldn't be an even worse and even eviler ruler. I also give a nod to the sequel, Kronk's New Groove... I liked that one, but I really wish Yzma was more present in the movie than that.

    Powerpuff Girls the Movie: That REALLY didn't deserve the grilling it got. The problem with our animation culture is that when a TV cartoon becomes a movie people don't know what to think, and critics don't even watch the shows, and the ones that do prefer half hour intervals. Straight from a 10th anniversary DVD making of documentary, the movie was delightfully dark and like a REAL super hero movie because the nature of the merchandising branded it as a girl's show. It was a joy to watch it on the big screen. I wish CN wasn't chicken hearted and released the KND movie in theaters like they originally planned to.
  4. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    That was pretty much the sequel in a nutshell. Parodying all the tropes of the first film.

    I never saw Dudley Do-Right when it came out. A little bit of me still wants to see it just so I can say I have, but the things I've heard about it... :eek:

    I'll second that notion about The Emperor's New Groove. It was one of the only Disney movies of my childhood I missed seeing theatrically because of the lackluster ad campaign. When I finally saw it on DVD, I loved every second of it. What a great, great film. Not as great as Mark Dindal's other film Cats Don't Dance but it comes pretty close.

    His third film, Chicken Little, though... I'll be honest: I love the first half-hour where the title character tries to redeem himself in his father's eyes but when the film starts to drift into sci-fi territory it just loses that likability factor.
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It's one of those movie's that fine to watch once, but never again after it, because you'll never get through it a second time. There's a story that the only reason why it was made was because someone said that the narrator of George of the Jungle sounded like the one for Dudley Do-Right (bushleague. Paul Frees was the narrator for GOTJ and half of DD, William Conrad doing the rest of DD's run). The only person in the cast that even got the movie was the guy who played Snidely, Alfred Molina (sp)



    Well, the story is that there was all this internal drama with the project... as I said it was supposed to be this other film, and they basically gave it a "We spent money on it, it's finished, let's just release it and sweep it under the rug" treatment... no merchandise (a oh well at least it's something bean bag set a year later), and it even aired on TV not even a year after its release. And YET they sequel it and gave it a TV series and they STILL don't want to acknowledge it. Though Kuzco did appear in House of Mouse a couple times...

    As for other underrated Disney movies...

    Recess: School's Out and Teacher's Pet. Both were absolutely amazing and great wrap ups to the tv shows. But as they're TV based movies, they were sort of swept under the rug. I especially find Teacher's Pet completely under appreciated, since the animation works beautifully with Baseman's style of art. Plus we had a show with Nathan Lane, Jerry Stiller and David Ogden Steirs as regular cast members (Nathan left the show later unfortunately, but was back for the film)... and the film rounded it out with Kelsey Grammer and Paul Reubens... sharp casting and sharp writing.
  6. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Actually, both were theatrical movies... I remember seeing Recess: School's Out when it came out during a special matinee... probably the cheapest movie I ever went to, lol.
  7. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    Trust me, I know all about the Kingdom of the Sun debacle. In all honestly, I think it would have been a fine film had they finished it but I'll still say The Emperor's New Groove is probably the better film.

    Yeah, Teacher's Pet is a realy good movie. I missed it because I was on a camping trip the weekend it came out and by the second week finding good showtimes was impossible. But the music and animation in that movie is fantastic... $6 million was not enough money for that movie to make.
  8. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    A Bug's Life.
  9. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Ehh... I think that was Pixar's OTHER not-so-great movie... I think mainly because the more edgy and "advanced" Antz from DreamWorks came out pretty much at the same time.
  10. Frogpuppeteer

    Frogpuppeteer Well-Known Member

    The Movie Hero its an indie film for those who love movies and dream of acting and a wonderful peice of art...as i watched it i almost felt a henson touch to it
  11. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Active Member

    Totally agree with that one. I LOVED the Powerpuff Girls movie and I would state that not only the movie but the TV show as well is fairly underratted.

    Another underratted movie pick of mine would go to "Josie and the Pussycats" from 2001. I also LOVED that movie and display it PROUDLY in my DVD collection. Its a satire sort of "anti-corporate rock movie" on how corporations control music through endorsements but at the same time makes fun of itself for the excat same thing (sub message of "Josie and the Pussycats is the best movie ever" at the end). It's also funny with it's adult humor and inside jokes (Alexandra mentioning how she was in the original comic books). Plus it didn't hurt that Rachael Leigh Cook, Rosario Dawson, and Tara Reid were all looking REALLY hott in that movie, :). I LOVED LOVED LOVED this movie.
  12. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I Also liked Josie and the pussycats. i wasnt as obsessed with it as my friend was though. i wish i still had it :(

    I still have not seen the powerpuff girls movie completely. I've only seen bits and pieces of it.
  13. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    To each is own.:p I saw bits and parts of Antz and wasn't really impressed actually.

    I personally loved A Bug's Life though.;)

    Just wish they would air it on T.V. more often.
  14. Mupp

    Mupp Member

    I love A Bug's Life too. I have heard from many sources that Antz was a rip-off of Bug's Life and it was just Katzenberg's way of back-stabbing John Lasster and Steve Jobs.

    And I have to say that Cars is definitely an underrated movie.

    To claim that Cars is overrated (like some claimed in the other thread) is complete bull. Becuase all we ever hear is how much people hate the movie. How in heck can a film be considered
    "overrated" when all it ever gets it hate?
  15. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Active Member

    Well speaking for myself, Cars is definitely NOT an "underrated movie" because of the fact that it's very loved and sells a ton and I mean A TON of toys, which is great. I feel Cars is a bit "overratted" because it just doesn't hold up to the rest of the Pixar films. But you see when people say "that movie is overratted" people take that to mean "they hate said movie." I'm pretty sure I've already explain this, but I'll explain it again...I DON'T HATE CARS. I still think it's a good movie overall, it's just (again in my opinion here) the weakest of the Pixar 11 so far, but again that doesn't take to it being a "bad movie." If Dreamworks made Cars, it would no doubt be one of their at least top five best and if Sony Animation made Cars, well...that would be nothing short of a modern day miracle.

    I do agree that it took Disney LONG enough to do something with the Muppets, but now in my opinion, they're really cooking with the Muppets. We've got two TV specials, tons of guest appearances on other shows, AMAZING internet videos, three seasons (working on 4th) of the Muppet show on DVD, awesome comic books that are VERY true to the Muppet characters and more merchadise than ANY collector could of possibly dreamed of, that's way more Muppets we've gotten from the Henson company since 1999's Muppets From Space was a "box office flop." Oh yeah, let's also not forget their working on a new Muppet movie, even got Pixar to take a look at it. If that's not PROOF that Disney is doing some awesome stuff with the Muppets, well for a person like D'Snowth (that's not a "negative shot" on yea D'Snowth) than...frankly...NOTHING ever will be.

    But again, in the end, we're all entitled to our opinions. D'Snowth mentioned he liked "the Day After Tomarrow." Speaking for myself, I never HATED a movie as much as I hated "the Day After Tomarrow."
  16. WhiteRabbit

    WhiteRabbit Well-Known Member

    Thank you for bringing these up! :33 I absolutely love all of these movies and they really do deserve more acclaim, especially Hunchback. Frollo really is the darkest and most complicated villain out of Disney and while I love Jafar, Ursula, etc., they're definitely not on the same level of epic.

    Now...muh movies...

    The Thief and the Cobbler (any version)~
    It's often referred to as an Aladdin ripoff but I think it has an interesting history behind the production (Richard Williams worked on it for 31 years! =O). It also has incredible animation--all of which was done by hand. The songs in the later versions are a bit corny but I can't help but love them.

    Road to El Dorado~ One of my favorite Dreamworks movies. I think Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron is good as well.

    Return to Oz
    ~ Definitely creepy but very imaginative...and I just found out that Brian Henson voiced Jack Pumpkinhead. x3

    Stardust~
    Maybe it's me but I never see this movie being brought up anywhere. It's fun and it doesn't take itself too seriously. Just a great escapist movie.

    Bad Lieutenant~ Not the Nicholas Cage version, but the Harvey Keitel one. I couldn't keep this one off the list because Harvey is my idol/favorite actor ever. EVAH! :confused: To keep things appropriate, sometimes it's a rough movie to watch but also has a deep and harrowing message. It deserves more attention.

    James and the Giant Peach~
    Stop motion movies are pretty much amazing but this one's nowhere near as popular as The Nightmare Before Christmas, Wallace & Gromit, Coraline, etc. Again, needs moar love.

    Hedwig and the Angry Inch~
    Probably not as underrated as it was back in 2001, but there's no reason it should be forgotten now. It's incredible and definitely makes me tear up.
  17. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    Yes! What happened to this movie was disgraceful to Richard Williams, but still: this is such an incredible movie no matter how you watch it. All I can hope is that someone finishes it someday the way Williams intended it to be seen.
  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Uh... I might as well say I dug Osamu Tetzuka's Cleopatra movie, even though it's known in circles as one of his worst projects ever. And if you actually knew the guy's input... well, his body of work vastly outreaches the common cartoonist. And 90% of his stuff is virtually unknown here, and it's a complete shame. I swear, he's only known as "Oh, the Astroboy guy" in the US.

    But getting back to the movie, I was trying to get through it as a joke, but I actually quite enjoyed it. it is VERY jarring at points. The opening uses a reverse Clutch Cargo (remember him from when I mentioned him, the guy with the live action superimposed mouth) technique in the opening... animated heads on live action bodies. Some experiments just... well... shouldn't be done. I give them credit for trying though. Not to mention the fact that the movie was released in the US as "Cleopatra, Queen of Sex", an X-rated movie that actually cut out all the important dialogue and stuff to get a shorter running time to get to the cough cough cough a lot faster. Sort of like Dragon Ball Z in this country. Only with cough cough cough instead of action scenes.

    But it does have a strong, yet odd story which has unfortunate retroactive parallels towards Avatar... basically the story is about a space colony or something and they have to send several of their members on a mission back in time using virtual reality simulators (this was made in 1969 or so... maybe the 70's) so they can witness the massive conspiracy by Cleopatra to destroy various Romans who came to take over... basically getting close to them.... and the assassination of Caesar is presented as a Kabuki play.

    Weirdness at its best. One day I hope to see his 1001 Arabian Nights film.
  19. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    Gosh, all this talk about Pixar movies made me have the craziest dream last night. The dream was that I was reading an article online where Pixar annouced their two 2013 releases. One of them was a Toy Story spin-off movie about the Green Army Men and the other was A Bug's Life 2. Trust me, both were just as disappointing as they sound.
  20. WhiteRabbit

    WhiteRabbit Well-Known Member

    A Bug's Life 2 doesn't sound all that bad but I'd really be stoked for a sequel for The Incredibles--if that idea were to come up. XP


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