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Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by wherestheanykey, Mar 18, 2009.
Do you supposed Jason Segel is re-writing the script of the New Muppet Movie?
Just like any script I would assume it will have to go through several rewrites before a final script is finalized. That is pretty much standard on any major studio film.
I havent read this full thread, just the 1st post.
I am sooooooo excited.
Although somewhat apprehensive after the disasters of muppets from space- which was bad enough IMO but even worse was Muppets from Oz...which raised the question "why did they even bother..?"
I have to admit, im an obsessive, so only truly like the first 3 - Muppet Movie, Great Muppet Caper, Muppets take manhattan... and I do feel that the muppets of late have had rushed scripts, less budget, and kiddyfied- which further frustrates me, because Jim never meant it for kids.
Anyway, I think this looks pretty good. Dont think we'll ever get a perfect muppet movie again - the genius behind them has gone- (heh unless they got all us fans to collaberate!) but this looks like its at least trying to get back to the old school muppets....Im gonna stop before I go off on a rant about how much disney have ruined the muppets.... lol
But wasn't that Gonzo supposed to play the minister in Manhattan Melodies, not in Muppets Take Manhattan...so technically in the Muppeverse they would be wed, right? Unless you would take it as each movie seems to rewrite the Muppeverse and completely change the origin stories and relationships completely (which is my opinion) and therefore the relationship was merely for that movie only.
I always viewed Muppets Take Manhattan as a sequel to TMM, as origins aren't really addressed in the latter. I always assumed their rich and famous contract enabled them to go to college ... note how Kermit said he was shocked that they could go (IIRC). So, to me at least, MTM never rewrote anything. Muppet Babies was a dream sequence ... which was then completely messed up with MFC. Other than that, though, MTM never really messes anything up, as far as I'm aware.
I guess where I get the impression that MTM overwrites history is that Kermit is so hesitant to go Broadway considering somehow they got to Hollywood and made a movie. They already had clout...wouldn't they be able to call someone up and get hooked up to a producer? That would have been Stage 1 of the plan...not go through the Classifieds and pick random producers.
I mean maybe the first one but once they almost got taken by Dabney Coleman or thrown out once by someone else some Muppet should have said "Hey, let's call up Orson Welles or whoever that dude was and maybe he can hook us up for a musical on Broadway. After all, it might lead to a sequel movie for him or at least drum up interest in the one already made."
Given they made no reference at all to have already met and made a Hollywood film, I assumed this was another origin story reboot with them meeting at college.
i dont know why it rully matters what messed things up. they're both amazing movies, and i honestly could care less about what got messed up, cause rully nothing did. i thnik redpiggy got it spot on. it's just kind of a sequel.
But it's not the seventies anymore, either. You can be a star one year and a homeless guy the next. He wanted a rich and famous contract -- he failed to mention "for all eternity". That's how contracts work ... pay attention to the fine print. Besides, Kermit's characterization always has him doubt the big dreams, like he feels he can't pull it off.
Except I don't recall them ever saying they met in college. We could just as well assume they met somewhere else. The way Kermit words it in his speech, it sounds like the Muppets were admitted as a group, more or less.
Don't get me wrong...I never said anything got "messed up". They are all great movies, no doubt. I just always view the stroylines in each as encapsulated as a story for that movie and not really sequels. If they are to be treated as sequels I am just thinking how it would play into everything else.
So was the order MM, MTM, Muppet Show, GMC? GMC was absolutely out of the normal timeline. I would assume that the Muppet Show didn't happen before either movie, it would have had to come after.
Would love to get some updated info on this current film.
Depends on your outlook, I guess. The Muppet Movie was framed by "the present", so it's arguable whether or not it predates TMS (and even that's ignoring Kermit's comment that it's not exactly a literal representation of how they met, which makes it sound like MM is Kermit's dream of what happened, and MTM's Muppet Babies spot is Piggy's version). GMC is its own thing and unless you count the OOC moments, it doesn't really need a timeline, though obviously they all know each other at this point, so TMS and MM have happened. TMS has to technically predate the Muppet Movie because Kermit tells Roy Rogers that he just got through with their first movie.
Whatever the issues are, the Muppets sure make it hard to pin down a decent timeline.
Here is a Muppet News Flash!
I have just been on the Internet Movie Database and their article about the new Muppet movie states that it has pushed it back to 2012!
*Gets pelted with popcorn and empty candy boxes*
hey, maybe that just means times getting taken to ensure the quality of the movie!
Dont want a rushed movie....muppets from oz was rushed, and although had a few minor good points, kinda fell down as a whole IMO....or maybe im wrong and it took ages.....I was just so dissapointed in that, I was soooooo thrilled it was coming out that I maybe just overhyped myself....
Still, even if its pushed back, at least its officially announced....
... the same IMDB that once said that Captain Smollet was the star of A Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie?
Grain of salt, man....
Link...? It would be nice if you could back up your claim.
O_O Well, I looked up Jason Segel and it said under development:
Untitled Muppet Project (details only on IMDbPro)
But I don't think it's really reliable of a source anyway.
*rolls eyes* Yeah, THAT looks like a reliable source... very official.
My Muppet Magic-8-Ball would probably be more reliable than that... *asks if the movie will come out in 2012* Answer: "Fergedaboutit."
I also think that even if the movie was dealyed that there are going to be more Muppety things out there.
What? That's just great. Looks like Jason Segel is being lazy.
How are you going to spin this into becoming Jason Segel's fault? From what we've heard, his scrpit was finalized and sent to the Disney higher-ups. What more can he do about it from there? It's not Segel's fault at ALL. He's the one trying to bring the Muppets back, so don't say he's being "lazy."
Not to mention, he's got other projects he's involved in as well. The guy's not a robot; he can't accomplish everything at once and Hollywood certainly isn't going to give him a break anytime soon. Just be patient and relax, GuySmileyfan. =3 I'm sure the updates will become more frequent as time progresses and more focus is going to be put into other muppet specials/projects, etc for the time being.
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