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Watching FR with Non-Fans

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by charlietheowl, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. Quazimoto

    Quazimoto Well-Known Member

    Actually, we were together for about a year after that (though I never really mentioned Fraggle Rock or The Muppets to her again). Things finally ended when she broke up with me for some reason (I'm still not entirely sure what that reason was - probably something to do with my lack of money to keep buying her things). I'd later find out that she had cheated on me several times, so twas good riddance to her. Hindsight has shown me that it was never a great relationship to begin with. Really kinda sucks that I've been alone since then, but hey... Better to be alone than with someone who berates you for loving all things Muppets.
  2. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    It didn't help that what lead to the puppetry club was my high school's production of Little Shop of Horrors that year. The director more or less implied I'd be the body of the plant and then when the cast list came out she gave it to one of the more popular/director's-favorites kids. I was absolutely devastated. As soon as the cast list came out, he was suddenly treated like the best puppeteer ever and I was suddenly second-rate even though he hadn't even gotten the chance to be in any of the plants. Once the show came, he became the most popular guy in school because of it and I was the laughing stock due to the club debacle. It's amazing we even stayed friends after that. (though I could tell he a ton more respect for me after that show)

    Interestingly enough, I was treated like a strange person for being obsessed with Little Shop in my early high school years (being in the show made me lose complete interest in that overrated musical). But after the show, everyone was more obsessed with Little Shop than I ever was. Don't feed the plants, indeed, people are such hypocrites.
  3. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    High School drama clubs are always full of nonsense like that. Cliques develop regardless of talent. When I took acting classes later on as an adult it was different. People were worried about making a living and not bragging about their talents. It was quite refreshing actually, lol.

    We did Little Shop in High School too but for the plant we hired a puppeteer from the outside who had worked with the Muppets before (and also Star Trek). I was fascinated and talk to him a lot. The others kids weren't nearly as interested which annoyed me. Again, it was all about them and their talent, heh. Don't get me wrong, there were nice people too, but it was just that clique mentality that could get so frustrating.
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  4. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    That's a very good point. I just don't see the reason why people feel the need to belittle people for such silly reasons as their personal tastes. I can't say that I've never done that before; certainly in my high school days I was less sensitive and aware of these kinds of things than I am now. But now I know how hurt people can get when you disparage their favorite things because you don't know how important they are to them. Fraggle Rock helped me get through an extremely tough time in my life, and I have an emotional attachment to the show because of that. Now I know not all of my friends and family know that, but it doesn't make it hurt less if they make fun of my watching the show. Even if you don't like something, I think it's important to at least attempt to understand why a person likes it and let them be. For example, my best friend likes reading anime comics. I've never really been interested in that, but I know it's important to him, so I'm not going to say anything about it when he discusses a new comic with me. I think that people should be more willing to respect the tastes of others because sometimes you really don't know how important they are to that person.
  5. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    In my experience people can feel jealous or threatened because you got something out of it that they can't understand.
  6. Scooterfan5

    Scooterfan5 Well-Known Member

    My 10 year old sister will watch the show with me. She seems to enjoy it. My friends are a different story though. They think my obsession with the muppets/fraggle rock is crazy.
  7. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    "People may smile but I don't mind. They'll never understand the kind of fun I find!" :( :)
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  8. Perlezerey8

    Perlezerey8 Member

    I actually told my boyfriend that I loved the show Fraggle Rock and he told me he had no idea what it was and I told him I'd show him an episode or two.
    So,we watched some episodes from the first season DVD and he really did enjoy it and I'm glad he did.
    My best friend almost caught me watching Fraggle Rock during my break at work but I told her was just looking at Muppet videos on Youtube and that was a wrong link. She doesn't like the Muppets a whole lot but she doesn't mind that I love them.
  9. The Shoe Fairy

    The Shoe Fairy Well-Known Member

    My 14 year old sister likes the show (to the point she has a plush wembley and a FR Xmas shirt) but only as a "thing" because it's "cute"; unlike the majority of fans here. She has no interest in the inherent meaning of the episodes/characters/cast or production or anything like that. Most people are pretty weirded out to begin with when I mention puppetry as an interest, so that tends to act as a bit of a filter prior to commencing talk of the muppets. I've less than a year left to go until high school is over, and boy will I be glad when I don't have to put up with most of the people I deal with daily.
  10. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    So true. To think in high school I actually tricked myself into thinking I had a future in theater. Little Shop basically cut that off for me. :o Granted, I did come back that next school year to do the shows and got much better roles (it was my senior year after all), but that was more because "I made it this far, I might as well do my last two shows." And I have gone back and seen some other shows since then. I might do community theater years from now but I doubt it, my interests change.
  11. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well just because you have a bad High School experience doesn't mean you can't have a future in the theater. If anything the people who get the huge roles in High School are the ones who have tricked themselves. ;)
  12. bazooka_beak

    bazooka_beak Well-Known Member

    I made the mistake of telling a coworker that I was interested in the Muppets and puppetry, and her reaction was... bemused? She seemed confused that a 30-year-old would like that sort of thing. I have learned not to talk about that stuff at work ;)
  13. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    People should reserve bemusement when someone says they like something like Jersey Shore. ;)
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  14. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    Don't ask me how many times I've been picked on for liking the Muppets. But going withg the point of this thread.
    I have great respect for everything Jim Henson made, I might not like all of it but I still have respect. But non-Muppet fans have no respect for it and will not enjoy it. (Most of the time that's how it is)
  15. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    You are lucky if you can find a non-Muppet fan who has a decent amount of respect for things Henson. My film professor this past semester enjoys The Muppet Movie and likes certain characters, but he isn't a die-hard fan, he has only a real basic knowledge of Henson his work. When it was revealed that I was a huge fan of Henson's work, he was more impressed than weirded out and was highly respectful about it. I wish we had more people like him. :halo:
  16. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    I have a couple of friends who do appreciate the creativity and originality of the Muppets, even though they're not big fans, and it's nice of them. I always try to appreciate what others enjoy even if I don't, though it's sometimes hard. (One of my roommates enjoys the music of T-Pain. Yicch.)
  17. Perlezerey8

    Perlezerey8 Member

    I find that people think The Muppets are too childish to watch when they're older. My friends are okay with me liking The Muppets but sometimes picks on me. That's why I don't really bring it up in a conversation.
  18. Puckrox

    Puckrox Well-Known Member

    I'm hearing a lot of feedback on the more negative side about non-Henson fans... From my personal experience, everyone in my life respects Henson on some level. Of course they're not all big/die hard fans like ourselves, but they all have a certain level of affinity for the Muppets (I have literally met one person in college who has never seen a Henson project and never wants to). And I watched Fraggle Rock with the guy I was seeing last spring and he'd never seen it before, and he really liked it. Whether or not he was saying he liked it in hopes to please me is still up in the air, but he seemed to enjoy it and even picked out that Boober was operated by the same person as Gonzo, which made me quite proud of him at the time.

    So yeah. :)
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  19. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    That's been more my experience as well. I was never really teased for liking the Muppets. For the most part people remembered them fondly from childhood.

    I was teased mercilessly for liking other things like Star Trek but that's another story, lol.
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  20. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    You're rwally lucky then. I think the world forgot what and who the Muppets are about. What people think of them nowadays is that they're like the Sesame street Muppets that just teach you the althabet and stuff like that. It really get's me annoyed

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