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What would it take....

Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by Redsonga, Sep 18, 2008.

  1. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    Elmo is good for certain things, but BB could teach her to do a bit more than write her name....Now that I think of it, if he was given the unofficial job of teaching others to read that would be great :wisdom:!
  2. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Yeah. He could even help teach Elmo a thing or two. XD
  3. ISNorden

    ISNorden Active Member

    I'm glad to see more of the Season 1 veterans back on Sesame Street (especially Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie). Giving Big Bird a specialty, though, doesn't fit the way he's been used all these years: even after the format change, he's remained a Renaissance bird who'll teach about any kid-friendly subject he's interested in. There is more to reading than identifying letters (the sponsor segments) or sounding out parts (the Two-Headed Monster clips)--but making an established character the main reading teacher seems as one-dimensional as relegating Cookie Monster to the "letter of the day" teacher.
  4. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    I was thinking the same exact thing.
  5. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Nope. It's a guy. The fact that it spoke in a masculine voice (although it didn't dress like a dude) gave it away, as did the fact that the gator was named KING Gator.

    Heck, some of us even played MK at the young of age of ten (Guilty).

    Because expectations and standards have changed, due to political correctness and FCC rulings.
  6. mbmfrog

    mbmfrog Active Member


    I agree the Bird has been through a lot for the past 39 years of public television. :wisdom:
  7. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Which is why he's best--IMO--to teach the new generations.
  8. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    I thought that he sounded like a sort of heavy set southern grandma singer...aw well...
    Still, if you think about how they have been treating the characters lately, he might as well be, you hardly see him anywhere else :\. The same with BB and his books/nest/ etc ;.;
  9. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Indeed. But at least, CTW/SW is trying to fix this problem.
  10. ISNorden

    ISNorden Active Member

    Sad, but true: Almost all Sesame Street Muppets (even the ones in starring roles) are being reduced to a gimmick or a favorite thing. When was the last time you saw Telly without a triangle in the script, Baby Bear without porridge, or Rosita without a "Latina stereotype" shtick? All three used to appear without gimmicks at least some of the time--they got three-dimensional treatment, personalities and histories that didn't always center on one part of their lives. The loss of that realism is harming Sesame Street's quality more than any other trend nowadays.
  11. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Well, Baby Bear is one of The Three Bears, so of course we would have to like porridge. He's not just a non-fairy tale chrcter who has an obsession with porridge; it's part of his story.
  12. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Active Member

    I was thinking maybe they could put Big Bird in a regular segment. After all, he used to be in 'Journey To Ernie' when they had that. There was also season 33 when he opened and closed the show. If they could do that again, they could still give Elmo and Abby enough time and Big Bird would still be a principal character.
  13. ISNorden

    ISNorden Active Member

    You have a valid point there, but then Baby Bear's chair and bed are also important parts of the original story: why didn't the Sesame Street writers also give him an obsession with furniture (especially with others using/breaking it)?
  14. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    I wouldn't want him to seem like he is limited to where he could appear. Plus I just thin it's works better when random people open and close the show instead of only one person.
  15. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    I guess I just miss when the street stories felt less like they had a format they followed, they use to just sort of flow into all the clips and the stories made each of the characters seem like a part of a big family...now a lot of them seem to keep to themselves or only be friends with a couple of other characters while doing one or two topics they always seem to do...
  16. ISNorden

    ISNorden Active Member

    Yes, that's exactly what feels wrong with Sesame Street now: toddlers may need orderly structure, but carried too far the structure becomes dull and predictable. Some classic characters (Simon Soundman and the Count) were designed for single roles, but that shouldn't happen to everybody in the cast: I'm afraid that the latest generation of Sesame Street viewers will grow up thinking of Cookie Monster as the "alphabet/nutrition teacher", Murray as the "bilingual vocabulary teacher", and Gordon and Oscar as the "end-of-show announcers". If the producers keep using multi-role characters to teach the same lessons every time, then everyone will eventually get pigeonholed into one part of the curriculum--making Sesame Street much less watchable than before.
  17. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    That's how the cirriculum works these days and has done since "No Child" was passed, sadly. Not even our precious Street is safe, as noted.
  18. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    But if No Child worked everyone would pass school and I know for a fact that is not happening:sympathy:. As such I don't think this new style is the best thing for SS...
  19. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    As much as I would agree, the new style is what's running things.


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