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Discussion in 'Muppet Replicas' started by Phillip, Feb 18, 2008.
Oh by the way, my Gonzo was number 00013. How freakin' cool is that?
I think mine is #908 or something like that. Cool man!
I don't own Animal and haven't ordered Gonzo yet (dang Paypal!). I was wondering how if the pupils removed easily or do they kinda rip and leave residue behind and all that?
It all depends on the the poser you will get. The left one came off pretty easy. The other was difficult to get off. But I did get it off and then used some Goo Gone and it cleared it all up. Then I put the new pupils on.
Hello all. I have to say, imo, out of all three posers, I was happier and more excited after seeing Gonzo after lifting the box cover off. At first, I just stared as well, in awe at how amazing he looked. Don't get me worng, I was totally excited for Kermit and Animal, but Gonzo, even with the different materials 'issue', was like...that is the little blue guy. He looks so like Gonzo, more in person than on pics. I hope I'm making sense here. I just hope, everyone who still isn't sure on purchasing him, purchases him. I don't think you'll regret any penny of it!
Now bring on the Bear and Pig!
I am still waiting for mine but I understand what you mean. I think it might be down to the fact that Gonzo is unlike any other Muppet, plus the hideous plushes we have had to put up with for 20 odd years make this new replica look so much better. Kermit and Animal toys and puppets have been available in the past, some of which looked pretty good. But the Gonzo ones!
There are step by step instructions at the bottom of the Gonzo Review that explain a simple method. I still have to give props to MuppetCaper for that pupil material. There's a link to it within the instructions.
That is exactly it. Gonzo is so amazing! I can't imagine anyone not falling instantly in love with this product (aside from the easily forgotten netting and the need for simple pupil correction). I think people will regret not getting Gonzo.
Once again, I am happy that so many of you are thrilled with him.
Doing modifications on a $20 Palisades toy is one thing, but having to do modifications on a $300 "replica" is just unacceptable.
Many of you on here are artists, puppeteers and puppet builders and possess the skills to "fix" these, but many others aren't and don't.
Although we've only met briefly, I consider Anthony a friend, so I don't want him to take any offense at this, but I think he should have rated Gonzo slightly lower because you have to do the work yourself to make it right.
If he was a $300 kit, well, that would be a different story. Then I would expect to do the work myself, but that isn't the way he's being marketed or sold. And you shouldn't have to make excuses, "If you blur your eyes just right, you hardly notice the netting." Or, "You get used to it after a while."
After everything I've seen, those are still my thoughts.
I personally and passionately don't think Gonzo is skippable.
You are right. I will tread lightly due to my already noted passion on the issue. In all this is a great item. My favorite poser and I love it very much!
I agree with the review and Anthony's opinion from my perspective, but others will likely take issue with Gonzo. I did provide that easy pupil correction. You know better than the rest of us that Muppet pupil placement is best done individually by hand.
I don't support the reasoning that such product quality is easier with an inexpensive action figure than an extremely expensive authentic replica. In the end the consumer shouldn’t have to consider factory issues on such a touted high-end item and a take-it-or-leave-it angle isn’t an acceptable approach either.
I understand the nose issues an it doesn't bother me anymore. The pupil placement is easily fixable, but should have been necessary. The eyes are central to this product. The location of the pupils is nearly a centimeter off in some replicas! That's honestly not in the ballpark. It’s not enough just to hit the white of the eye.
Mass producing a Muppet is impossible, but better quality in this area is not. I am glad Travis has now taken charge of the Muppets brand. Go Gonzo! He’s starring at me right now and looks darn real to me...now.
I didn't mean to imply that product quality was easier with an inexpensive action figure. The point I was trying to make was that as the dollar amount for the item goes down, so does one's expectations of accuracy.
As for how they could have assured better eye placement, how about a template that would fit over the eyeballs with a vertical piece coming down from the top (inside the "white" portion of the eye) that ended exactly where the pupil should be placed. I'm just spitballing off the top of my head, but there has to be a better way to quality control it.
And one last thing, I think they've opened themselves up to the harsh criticism they've received by their very name... "Master Replicas".
Sorry if you thought I was pointing that particular comment your way. I was referring to the point made by a few other members that the different methods used to make action figures causes greater accuracy in things like eye focus. I actually agree with you and like your method. It appears that they picked the front center placement on each eye bulb rather than the central character focus. Some sort of stencil or template would have helped. I will say it is challenging to get them just right by hand. The wheels seem to have fallen off the wagon on that one with the factory.
I agree with your line of thinking whole-heartedly and shared your views exactly until I got Gonzo for myself (I was even very prepared to send him back or sell him on ebay). But honestly, he's much, much better in person than you would imagine from the pictures. I actually could've left his pupils the way they were and still been okay with it.
I completely understand your feelings that they should be perfect out of the box. I think MR has done an incredible job giving us the replicas in an almost-perfect state, but these just seem to be the type of items that take a bit of tweaking.
It seems lie such a shame because they are so darned close and the slightest bit of tweaking makes them so much better. With Animal, if they just could've gotten his hair tamed before leaving the factory, not made the mistake with the tongue and painted his eyelids black, he would've been completely perfect. With Gonzo, better pupil placement and a bit of trimming of the fur around his eyes would've also made a big difference. The nose is what it is, and I don't think (now that I have him) any other material would've worked any better, or as well as the solution they came up with.
These things seem to be kinda like a baseball glove: it would be great if they came oiled up, soft and ready-to-go as soon as you but them off the shelf. But to truly get the glove the way you want it, you have to break it in.
I just paid for my Gonzo! Only $231.somechange! That's cheaper than the site was selling for it! Guess who's excited!
That's kinda how i felt - you shouldn't be making excuses in a review or having to purchase these with the understanding you will have to modify it - most people can't. I do understand that these look somewhat better in person though and that if the review was very forgiving then thats Anthonys personal opinion towards them and shows his support of the line as a fan. It's not a criticism of him, more a statement that he shouldnt have had to do that and Master Replicas should be living upto their name.
I'm already having nightmares about moving Animals brow fur down to cover the eyelid shell ... fixing the eyes on Gonzo? I know its probably simple to some here but i would be scared of messing up a $300 purchase.
Howdy Earl! FYI, I would never take offense to anyone else's opinion, 'specially yours! We are all entitled to our own thoughts.
Like Ignohippo, I was fully prepared to return my Gonzo or sell him on eBay if I didn't love him, thankfully that wasn't the case.
Yeah, sometimes I wish they could've found a way to replicate the Scott foam more closely, and it is a little irritating expecting to modify the pupil placement & other aesthetic issues upon arrival, so I can totally see where you're coming from. I do know that you were, what - the first fan to see MR's Gonzo in person right? You've had longer to think on this than most of us.
BUT, maybe you should just get a Gonzo and I'll fix him up next time I'm in L.A. Town. Eh?
I'm not sure where I was trying to go with this post, maybe just agreeing to disagree? LOL, as only real friends can. You're the best Earl! BTW, do you know if Kevin got himself a Gonzo? I'd like to hear his input on this as well.
Ok guys, I think I got him finish FINALLY! Here he is and now I can say that I am REALLY happy with him. He looks dead on like the GREAT Gonzo. But then again, if you don't that's ok too.
Looks great! The lip and pupils corrections look just right.
Looks awesome! The perfect Gonzo.
I sympathize because everything Earl and Luke are saying is EXACTLY what I was saying before he arrived. I couldn't have been more wrong about Gonzo. I would put his likeness (even with the googly eyes) somewhere between Kermit and Animal.
I know what you all mean, and totally believe it. It's just errm you have made your Gonzo look tremendous and if i took scissors to mine we would be talking Edward Scissorhands, lol. I do really like him without the suit, but then again classic look was never my favorite so its not that the suit isn't great.
You oughta go into the Wierdo Customization business .. in fact a few people round here should.
Ah, in hindsight, you could probably get the same effect by just wetting your fingers and pushing the hair down. The fur that was trimmed was pretty minimal.
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