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Your Thoughts: Kermit's Swamp Years: TV Airings and Opinions

Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by Phillip, Aug 16, 2002.

  1. muppet_dk

    muppet_dk Well-Known Member

    Or get it beacuse it got some pretty good extras on it.
  2. jediX

    jediX Well-Known Member

    Good point there; I enjoyed the extras more than the actual film, even though I got a kick out of seeing "Jim" as a child :)
  3. Sir Didymus

    Sir Didymus Well-Known Member

    I thought the movie was good. No, It wasn't Excellent, but It wasn't horrible. I wished they had more origanal songs and Gonzo.

    Sir Didymus
  4. WiGgY

    WiGgY Well-Known Member

    One thing it was missing was Muppets! The Pet Shop scene was the only place we really saw a lot of muppets. The rest of the movie lacked the.

    Here is a list of places child versions of classic muppets would have fit in, without even needing lines:

    1. When Kermit visits the farm and sees the pig. Piggy could have been shown, in a pen that Kermit runs past, sitting in a puddle of mud looking disgusted while in a pink dress with that bow in her hair. Easily could have been done, no lines needed.

    2. Rowlf could have been in the pet shop in a window.

    3. Rizzo could have been a rat meant for being fed to the snake in the pet shop, but escapes.

    4. Fozzie could have been seen on the side of the rode watching that truck go by or something.

    those are the only 4 I have right now, but there are plenty of places to add in Muppet Cameos who don't have to add to the story, thus messing with the time line, but just be there to add more muppetness to the movie.
  5. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but then people would start calling it Muppet Babies!!! On top of which there would have been complaints and stupid people saying "But how come they just 'happened' to be there?"

    Also you have to remember that the make up to make them young would have cost a lot!!!

    But what I ask are, WHY was Pilgrim not a Muppet Puppet? I mean it is as though they are hardly any Muppet puppet animals till they learn to speak.

    And what was that Rawlf thing with the shop keeper?

    The only good thing was Jim as a kid and Mary.
  6. WiGgY

    WiGgY Well-Known Member

    True. That dog should have been a muppet puppet, but the way they made it at the end was that all animals can talk, which is stupid. And that Rowlf thing made absolutly no sense at all. I mean, it wasn't Rowlf, so what was the point?

    But about it turning into muppet babies, I don't think that would have happened. Simple short cameos would be good. And about how they just happene to be there, I don't think that would have been too much of an issue. Maybe all muppets come from that same part of the world and they just kind of spread out. :D

    The Jim Henson as a kid thing is on the fence with me. Sure it was sweet and stuff, but it makes no sense too. The muppets are suppose to act as if they have no idea who the performers are. So, it's iffy. The muppet comedy side of me doesn't like it, but the muppet heartfelt side of me did.
  7. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    All your points are very true, though I loved that Jim as a kid thing. It was cool.
  8. GonzoPimp

    GonzoPimp Well-Known Member

    Its true that KSY was a straight-to-Video release and budget is limited, but it doesn't cost anything to make a decent story. I kept thinking the story was going to get better...and it didn't. I mean, didn't the creators promise us a "true-muppet-lovers movie" at Muppetfest? Were they talking to the Elmo fans?
    :excited: :concern:
  9. Jennifer12

    Jennifer12 Well-Known Member

    I kinda liked it...

    I finally saw it this morning, and while I didn't laugh hysterically like I do for many Muppet productions, I thought it was really cute. It was certainly something I'd purchase for my children if I had children. While the double-entendres(sp?) that only adults get were not in heavy supply, I did find the jokes funny enough to laugh at.

    Most enjoyable were the out-takes at the end. The filming of the locker scene where you can hear the puppeters (I think I recognized Steve Whitmire's voice) getting a little frustrated was worth the time it took to watch. Thanks to the Henson company for sharing the out-takes and general fooling around with us.

  10. arrodwen

    arrodwen New Member

    just my 2 cents

    I bought this film for my 2 year old son. He loves it. I'm more of an original muppet fan, myself. (Owning original The Muppet movie.) But my son watches that as well. Awesome, eh?

    I thought the movie was cute, comical and something perfect for little children. Not sure, I'd ever pick it up for myself... but after learning all the JH references, it's kind of cool to learn.
  11. Gerard

    Gerard Well-Known Member

    I really liked the film, especially all the Henson references. I also think that it was more aimed at 5 or 6 year olds, and is funny for them. A great film.
  12. Pug Lover

    Pug Lover Well-Known Member

    Kermit's Swamp Years

    Please let me know if this topic has been posted before.What does everyone think of Kermit's Swamp Years?I myself enjoyed the movie.I liked how they had a brief cameo from a teenaged Jim Henson.Plus another brief cameo of a younger Statler and Woldorf.And his encounter with a barnyard pig is quite ironic.Especially when he says he hopes he never sees one of those again.One thing I'm somewhat curious about.During a scene where Kermit talks to his mother.We only see the back of her and hear her talk,but never see her face.Makes me wonder if she had eyes like her son,or just the round eyes that every other frog muppet appears to have.:)
  13. Camellia

    Camellia Well-Known Member

    haven't seen it

    hi, I haven't seen it but Muppety friends say it isn't that great. So I didn't buy it. It was $7.99 at one store, pretty cheap, recently.

    Anyone else like the show?

  14. Fragglemuppet

    Fragglemuppet Well-Known Member

    I haven't seen it either, and I've heard mixed reviews. Some were bad, but there were just as many good ones. I'm now trying to find it in stores, but as of yet having no luck. Can anyone give me an unbiased summary, or point me to somewhare whare there is one posted?

  15. MrsPepper

    MrsPepper Well-Known Member

    An unbiased summary:

    Kermit lives in a swamp with his best friends, Croaker and Goggles. There's also a big bully bullfrog, I think his name is Blotch. Anyhoo, Goggles is taken by a pet owner, and an evil scientist/teacher is looking for frogs for his evil plans (aka dissection)! So Kermit and Croaker hit the road trying to save Goggles.

    A biased summary: I thought this movie was really cute, and I fell in love with Goggles. However I found that the movie doesn't always flow quite evenly. And I didn't like the female dog character. Overall, you can tell that it is geared towards a younger audience, but I think it's cute, and even if you don't like it, it's sort of your duty as a Muppet fan to at least watch it. ;)

    Edit: fixed my poor grammar!!
  16. Kimp the Shrimp

    Kimp the Shrimp Well-Known Member

    I Really liked it i thought that is was kermits 4th best motion picture
  17. Gonzo14

    Gonzo14 Well-Known Member

    the story was ok, but what i really liked was the muppet sybolism

    -the young jim henson
    -kermit running into a pig
    -when kermit's in a pet store, there's can behind him that says "Salmon Friends" (Sam and Friends)
    -Arnie the Alligator
    -there's a lot more, but i can't remember them all
  18. OverUnderAround

    OverUnderAround Well-Known Member

    I think Kermit's Swamp Years was Steve Whitmire's best performance of Kermit. However I do think he shines even more when he works characters that he originates such as that singing rabbit in the pet store scene. That was some awesome puppeteering and that's Steve at his best.

    I hope in the future Steve has the freedom to do more original characters. Then he can really cut loose and express himself.

    Croaker was a great little charcter too.
  19. golden teeth

    golden teeth Well-Known Member

    It was pretty good. I would give it a B minus probably. I liked the cool Statler and Waldorf cameo, where they were young men in a theater. Good enough story, and Steve did a great Jim-like Kermit in this one. I didn't particularly like the live adult actors though.
  20. a_Mickey_Muppet

    a_Mickey_Muppet Well-Known Member

    yeah... its an OKAY movie. also dont forget about the Animal Keychain! :halo:

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