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Your Thoughts: Muppets Letters to Santa

Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by Phillip, Dec 17, 2008.


What did you think of the "Letters to Santa" special?

  1. I loved "Letters to Santa".

    74 vote(s)
  2. "Letters to Santa" was good.

    71 vote(s)
  3. "Letters to Santa" was just so-so.

    27 vote(s)
  4. I disliked "Letters to Santa".

    13 vote(s)

  1. thekittybox

    thekittybox New Member

    This special was far, far better than those Disney Channel things. I enjoyed seeing Lew Zealand and Crazy Harry. I've always had a soft spot for Harry. And Sweetums! Robin! Lots of the old faces. Miss Piggy's voice was much better this time, she sang pretty well. Other times, Piggy's only been gruff sounding. This time she was only sweet sounding.

    Still, I guess I don't get why there's so much focus on Rizzo and Pepe. Gonzo and Rizzo used to be buddies, but now there's so much of Pepe! I'd rather see more of Rowlf, Sweetums, and the Swedish Chef. Even if they don't get the performance right, they'd be trying.

    It was definitely the most Muppet-y performance I've seen for a long time. Kermit getting squished. Gonzo falling on his head. Muppet chaos with little touches. The singing numbers were good, music was enjoyable. The problem was the lack of chaos to the dancing. It was too perfect. Muppets always had something weird happen in The Muppet Show. There was some part of it that felt more like Sesame Street.

    It was almost there, guys, keep trying.
  2. pattywack

    pattywack Well-Known Member

    I'm so excited to see this. I live in Australia and I don't think it's going to air here any time soon ... But I plan to download it once it shows up on a torrent site.

    Just a question, how was the Swedish Chef in this guys? I was so dissapointed with him in Studio DC, I thought he was so incredibly off.
  3. thekittybox

    thekittybox New Member

    Was his nose shape a little different too?

    I definitely noticed Miss Piggy looking different throughout.
  4. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I think you have it right; sentimentality was there, now they need more chaos. I hope they will keep trying. :)
  5. Meh...

    I'm sorry, but I disagree. It was generic and watered down. It's hard for me to articulate how I took it so here's a list:

    Pros: Kermit and the boys on another whirlwind adventure.
    A good mix of human guest stars.
    Cute, non-offensive plot line.

    Cons: Conflicts were too easily overcome
    A distinct lack of jokes or witty repartee.
    A paper thin premise.

    Please don't get me wrong, it had it's endearing qualities, and as a little child's movie it would be fine. But if it was meant to be a little kid's movie then use Elmo and Bert and Ernie.
    As I stated earlier, where were the jokes? Pepe mugged for the camera and there was some "physical" comedy. As I said to a friend earlier after this movie "It's pretty bad when Rizzo plays the straight man." :shifty:
  6. Frogster

    Frogster Well-Known Member

    Okay, I'm gonna present a list of good, bad and ugly for you guys... here I go.

    :) Good: I loved the songs. Paul Williams knows how to write music for the Muppets. Also I must say, Eric is gettin better with Fozzie. Also, it was great to hear how well Floyd and Lew sounded. And Crazy Harry's explosion was a fun lil moment. The plot itself wasn't all that bad. The celebrity spots weren't bad either (Jane especially was good with the Muppets). Also, Bobo and Pepe were fantastic. Bill has become the new Frank Oz, with his upstaging, timing and comedic talents.

    :boo: Bad Gonzo shouldn't be the leader of a Muppet special. Muppet anything really. I thought people had learned that from MFS. He's fourth in line. It should have been Kermit's story. Also, I thought these three writers were supposed to have done a really good job at this. Aside from Bill Baretta's characters, where were the jokes? You can really tell this was just written together in such a hurried fashion; there's nothing here besides what the story absolutely needed. Robin sounded like he's in the worst stage of puberty ever, Rowlf and Sweetums sound identical, Piggy has become one-dimensional with no personality whatsoever, and I thought Scooter was just awful; they should have let Brian stick with him instead. Uma Thurman's acting was laid on very thick. You can't make a convincing Muppet flick if an actor or actress treats their costars (even though they're Muppets) like puppets. You have to make it seem real or else people will know you're not good with them. Also, this special should have been 2 hours long. There's not enough time for story development or character development.

    :scary: Ugly Piggy's singing. She shouldn't be allowed to sing anymore.
  7. AAO

    AAO Well-Known Member

    I said in my post above what's up with Bunsen etc... :super:
  8. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    I also agree here; it was watered down as I said earlier. And as the NYTimes critic said, there wasn't much in the way of satire (which I think even kids can appreciate). But it wasn't horrible. Again, I hope they keep trying. :)
  9. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    Well than it would have to be Sesame Street special, but I hear what you're saying.
  10. Libba Yuki

    Libba Yuki Well-Known Member

    Pepe and Rizzo are partners in crime, but I don't feel that (aside from sarcastic comments and jokes exchanged between the two) they're really all that buddy buddy. Rizzo and Gonzo are best friends...I was kinda sad that we didn't really see any of it shine in this specail.

    Kermit getting squished was funny and cute, and I thought it was adorable and funny when Gonzo landed head-first in the snow and Kermit tries to dig him out in a panic.

    I didn't really care for the dancing at some points, like the post office scene, but I did like the one in the hallway/taxicab scene.
  11. AAO

    AAO Well-Known Member

    Also when Pepe said, "Oh rapture" and fainted.. HAHAHA!

    And when Swedish Chef kept hugging the turkey because of the turkey on the plate and then Swedish Cheft murmmers: "Tofo turkey!" That was good...haha.

    It made me think of Muppet Family Christmas with Big Bird and Chef
  12. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    I really enjoyed it. Loved everything here. All the songs were awsome and i don't think there was anything that made me dislike it. Glad to see pretty much all the characters even Crazy Harry, Sweetums, Dr. Teeth, Janice, Flyod, Zoot and Scooter too. Thanks Disney and all three of the write dudes. *jumps for joy*
  13. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    I honsetly disagree with you said about Gonzo, I think it's great to make him the certain. He's one of the most popular and well know Muppets and has a ton of heart, in some ways I think many people are able to relate to him because of that.

    Muppets from Space wasn't bad because (though I didn't think it was bad at all), it just didn't really have that "Muppet feel" and probably could be been a bit better written
  14. AAO

    AAO Well-Known Member

    Whoopi's cameo was short and sweet... But put in a weird place I thought.

    And it seemed like the writers ran out of time at the end because Pepe was the one to write the other letter and wanted to sing Opera..."Wish granted!" - Santa... what? :( oh well...
  15. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    Speaking of that, did you notice that was the same turkey in Muppet Family Christmas, too bad Steve didn't reprise his voice
  16. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    Wow. It's like a cross between Family Christmas and It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas.

    The plot sounded a lot more childish than it ended up being. To me, Gonzo's song at the North Pole fixed any problems I had. Maybe it was just me, but the song in the apartment, when Gonzo is trying to get Kermit and Fozzie to go with him to the North Pole, sounded like the melody of a song in Christmas Carol. Statler and Waldorf, poor souls, didn't have a lot of material to work with. I hate it when that happens. :)

    Kermit: He lives in a different apartment from Piggy. Is it just me, or does their apartment complex look like it belongs on SS? It would be really cool if ALL the Muppets lived in that neighborhood. Back to the point, Kermit willingly assumed that he would rub suntan lotion on Piggy. This is the kind of vague stuff I actually like, not that "Piggy says yes and Kermit says no" stuff.

    Fozzie: I think he sees a side of Gonzo he recognizes in himself. I never saw Muppets from Space, so I don't know what happened there. However, given what Fozzie did in the last Xmas special, it seems he and Gonzo might be becoming better friends.

    Gonzo: I agree with a previous poster that this whole special seemed like Gonzo & co. Still, that's cool. The pig and frog shouldn't have to headline everything. WHY CAN'T I BE CLAIRE? The idea that I could not only live near but be really tight with Gonzo is driving me INSANE.

    Pepe and Rizzo: The mob thing was funny. I don't see the point of griping about "accents" when Pepe and Rizzo are the same exact joke. I liked seeing Pepe melt at Uma. He got over Rachel quick. :D

    Bunsen: Thought so.

    Beaker: Yay for his wish! (when I first saw pics, I thought it was a translator) Beaker needs a life outside Muppet Labs.

    Scooter: I've heard more accurate, but I can deal with it.

    Rowlf and Floyd: So accurate it was SCARY. Rowlf sounds even better here than on youtube. And he still gets his out of tune piano :D

    Robin: Have to watch again. I don't really need an accurate impression. The frog shouldn't have to sound five forever. This isn't SS. I can't believe he hasn't gone postal, what with everyone treating him like a child for decades. If Kermit can go from a child to an adult, why can't Robin? Does he have some sort of SS-like maturation disorder?

    The plane thing even went so far as to throw them off (sorta). Good GMC homages just make me squeal.

    But the thing that drives me absolutely batty ...

    is of course ...



    Better now...
  17. Libba Yuki

    Libba Yuki Well-Known Member

    Was it my imagination, or did Santa call Gonzo dear? (I'm pretty sure he had been replying to Gonzo)

    I really disagree with you here. Gonzo (as he did in MFS and his role in MCC) was always great to see in the spotlight, and I personally love it when he is. As much as I love Kermit too, it is refreshing to see a movie/special focus on someone else besides him.
  18. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    Well I have to grip about the mob stuff, I'm just sick of seeing it on Television, period. It doesn't feel like all in good fun anymore in general.
  19. doctort13

    doctort13 Well-Known Member

    Overall, not bad. I agree that having Paul Williams music really made this feel like a classic Muppets film. The story was a bit thin, but then they had to squeeze it in a 45 minute block of airtime.
    I would like to see more from this trio of writers. Keep the felt ball rolling guys! :)
  20. AndyWan Kenobi

    AndyWan Kenobi Well-Known Member

    I had SUCH a good time watching this. I've been really run-down, overworked, exhausted, etc. with teaching, and this was just what I needed. All my friends were there, they all felt true to their personalities, there were plenty of laugh-out-loud moments, a good dose of heart, a little bit of chaos. Everything I would want in a Muppets Christmas special.

    For me, nothing will ever top Christmas Eve on Sesame Street, Muppet Family Christmas, or Emmet Otter, but this was just a good fun hour to spend with old friends. What more could I ask for?

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!

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