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Your Thoughts: The Street We Live On

Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by Phillip, Apr 4, 2004.

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What did you think of "The Street We Live On" special?

Poll closed Jul 3, 2004.
  1. I thought it was good

    38 vote(s)
    42.2%
  2. I was very disappointed

    52 vote(s)
    57.8%

  1. Stulz

    Stulz Member

    research

    Sesame Workshop continually does research testing to see what works and what does't work with the show.

    This was reinforced by another independent study that revealed that children are watching T.V. at a younger age then ever before.
    (This study is teh reason why you have so many shows now aimed at that level - Teletubbies, Boobahhs Etc).

    SS made a conscience decsision to now focus on this audience as they thaught it would help them be more prepared for Preschool.

    Cheebo: (Sorry to keep picking on you) I actually meant the 25th ann. TV special. I keep meaning to buy the DVD, but because I heard it's a edited version of the special and keep putting it off.

    I have an old copy of the 20th Ann. show. I'm in the process of transferring all my Muppet tapes to DVD.
    Shoot me an e-mail and I will make a dup. when I'm done for you. - Yes it really is as good as everyone keeps harping about.

    :)
  2. GeeBee

    GeeBee New Member


    I don't doubt that children are watching television at a younger age now. What I don't understand is why they felt Sesame Street had to target that particular age group when they do in fact already have shows like Teletubbies, Boobahhs Etc. for them. Older children need television shows too.
  3. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict New Member

    this thread has gotten out of hand. this was supposed to be about the aniversary special. lets bring it back to that and post the other unrelated stuff elsewhere. anyway, i wonder how what the SS cast would say if they saw this thread of so many of us criticizing the aniversary special?
  4. GeeBee

    GeeBee New Member


    That they need to do it over and get it right this time?
  5. Mark The Shark

    Mark The Shark New Member

    In a great many cases, no...a lot of the vintage game shows of the 50s, 60s, 70s and even 80s *do not* exist on tape any more; they were erased years and years ago, long before anyone had ever even thought about there one day being a cable channel to rerun them on.

    This is why in many cases, older game shows aired on Game Show Network are only seen in small packages of 65 or so episodes, and in some cases, it's only the *evening version* of a show which also aired in daytime, etc. It's because the tapes were erased and reused 20 or 30 years ago.

    This is why I was very, very surprised back in the late 1980s or early 1990s to discover that the Museum of Broadcast Communications in Chicago had a tape of the very first "Sesame Street." CTW had done a couple of anniversary specials and had never once shown any clips from it, not one time. "20 Years And Counting" had a clip of the "Mr. Hooper death scene" but not a single frame of footage of Mr. Hooper himself on the show. Even going back to the beginning of the show, CTW aired the shows over a period of one year, then a new season started and the shows from the previous year were never shown again. Ninety percent of other shows which aired a couple of times over a period of a year or show and never got rerun again would *not* have been saved in an archive. A lot of you probably don't realize how *lucky* we are that we've been able to see as many of these shows (through Noggin etc.) as we have. Yes, the Noggin shows were a tiny fraction of all the shows that CTW produced over the years, just the tip of the iceberg...but try to find that many examples of a lot of other shows from that era. Gone. Erased. Forget it. I was very surprised to discover that CTW had maintained a huge archive of their shows, and God bless them for it.
  6. GeeBee

    GeeBee New Member

    True, and the fact that they saved them, implies that they had plans for them to possibly be seen again. I wonder if the current producers at Sesame Workshop have lost sight of this.
  7. Daffyfan2003

    Daffyfan2003 Active Member

    Actually, I watched my tape of the special and I thought it was really good. It was nice to see all those classic skits that they haven't played in a while. (counting sketch with the baker; Kermits News Flashes, etc.) I also got a glimpse of Matt Robinson as Gordon near the end. I didn't think they'd do something like that. I can see where Journey to Ernie and Global Grover got in the way and that "how does Cookie Monster eat a cookie thing" could have been shortened so that they just show the scene with Cookie Monster as a baby, but other than that I really enjoyed the show.
  8. This special to me was half crap, half good. I mean, who in the world would want to watch a normal Sesame episode at 8PM? This special would proably make Jim Henson turn in his grave. I can picture it now in Heaven:

    Joe Raposo: "Hey, Jim! The show's starting, get the donuts."
    Jim Henson: "Oh, sorry about that."
    Jon Stone: "You know, I was dissapionted with these new Sesame episodes but now with this special I hope they bring the gist Sesame had when we were still alive."
    Jim Henson: "Yeah, they should just re-name the show Elmo Street." (He takes a drink of water when Elmo's World starts and he spits out the water) "WHAT THE HECK DOES SESAME WORKSHOP CALL THIS?" (He gets off the couch)
    Jon Stone: "Where are you going?"
    Jim Henson: "Back to Earth."

    And come see "The Passion Of Elmo".

    Seriously, I think the fans could have done better special.
  9. DancingLauren

    DancingLauren New Member

    I am an avid FP Little People collector, and so if you have any questions ask me. But yeah, it was weird that the only human ss characters they made were Gordon, Susan and Mr Hooper.
  10. GeeBee

    GeeBee New Member

    Cool! Great to meet another Little Person collector.

    As for humans, one thing I've noticed is that these days, NO toy company seems to make toys with ANY of the current human cast. At least I haven't seen any that are sold. It seems like Sesame Street sets only have the muppets now.
  11. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    What I liked:
    --They changed the 123 doors back to green. That red color was awful.
    --The Mad Painter included in the opening montage.
    --The cartoon typewriter. I'm glad they finally put him back on the show, even if it may be only one episode.
    --"I Have a Chair". Not like the original, but still pretty good.
    --THE BAKER'S BACK!!! After a 15-year absence, they finally broughy the clip back. I was really hyped when the numbers started to flash on the screen.
    --The Old Woman who lived in a shoe in "Journey to Ernie": "USE YOUR INSIDE VOICES!!!" LOL!
    --"That's how THIS peacock dances! Ha-cha-cha-chaaaa!"
    --The fact that after so many years, both Cookie Monster and Herry have been given legs.
    --"The Street We Live On" song. It got me teared up.
    --The clip montage, especially when they put important moments (like Mr. Hooper's death and Snuffy's revealance to the cast) with completely random moments. ("AAAAAAAA-klahoma!")
    --"Mah Na Mah Na!" "Pa tee, pa tee pee!"

    What I didn't like:
    --The new Rosita. She has no wings!
    --Too much emphasis on "Elmo's World". They could've added more clips and reduce Elmo's appearances.
  12. GonzoPimp

    GonzoPimp New Member

    wait...is it that you want us to stay on topic or that you want us to just all say, "Wow that Elmo is one heck of a guy!" Don't we have a right (and a responsibility on a discussion forum) to say how we feel? Even if its not positive?

    They aren't holy men you know-It isn’t blasphemous to say they did a bad job. Anyway, most of them probably agree-there are forces behind this that I'm sure the majority can't control.
  13. GonzoPimp

    GonzoPimp New Member

    I think you are right, but...right now I work at a pre-school and we have over 100 kids. I've worked here just about a year and I have yet to hear one of them mention SS. Blues Clues and Power Rangers get talked about daily, but no SS. This disturbs me.

    The other thing that disturbs me is how in the past parents could watch SS with their children and be entertained along with them( a la peanut butter sandwiches-that’s so funny!), and now that the show is so slow its more difficult for adults to watch.

    Blues Clues, even though it aims at 3s just like SS, is an entertaining show.

    Lets not forget the original mission statement of SS, and I'm paraphrasing here, but it was to narrow the pre-preschool knowledge gap between Inner city (poor underprivileged) children and their wealthy private school counterparts.
    SS used to be edgy, intelligent, and cutting edge. It was fun and full of special effects that had never been used in children's television. Imagine Weta Workshop making effect for SS. Think about the things they could do, the places they could go and the monsters they could see? Instead we use (hold your breath now) blue screens.

    oh ya--WE HAVE A RIGHT TO DEMAND QUALITY- SS RECEIVES FUNDING FROM THE GOVERNEMT-MY TAXES PAY THERE SALIERES (in the 80s MOST toped $200,000 a year-more to come on that later) -SO DO YOUR JOB AND DANCE MONEKY DANCE (*mad hatter crazy laugh)
  14. Did anyone besides me get annoyed with Oscar? He was WAY too rude in this! He said "Get lost!" 4 times and it got annoying but he only said "Scram" twice. All he seemed to say was "Who cares?", "Get lost!" and "Scram!". Are those the only things he's going to say this season?
  15. GeeBee

    GeeBee New Member


    Actually, I'm grateful that Oscar's personality seems to be one of the few things that didn't undergo a major transformation. Although, he should have had more lines.
  16. muppet maniac

    muppet maniac Well-Known Member

    I thought the special was really good.Lots of old clips were used.It was so cool that they had Jim Henson's Baker Falling Down the Stairs segment and the original version of Mah Nah Mah Nah.
  17. Jennifer12

    Jennifer12 New Member

    I used to teach preschool and I too was disturbed that so few kids watched Sesame Street. I even had one parent tell me that they didn't watch Sesame Street. Her daughter was a "Disney girl." My head actually exploded when she said that. I kid you not. There were brains on the bulletin board and in the cubbies for weeks afterward...

    I disagree with you that the problem is the quality of the show. I still think its fantastic. The world has changed and Sesame Street had to change along with the world or it would have perished long ago. It has managed to stay true to its basic intentions. That can't always be easy to do.

    I think that if less children are watching, its because there are so many choices out there. When I was a kid we didn't have VCRs and our own library of movies. We had Saturday morning cartoons and on Sundays they showed several episodes of Sesame Street back to back.

    I also think parents don't know the difference between educational and entertainment programming. If I had the money, I'd start my own media literacy program and bring it into schools...but that's another rant.

    Jen
  18. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict New Member

    parents don't know the difference between educational and entertainment TV. please! many parents grew up on SS and no parent is that dumb.
  19. Jennifer12

    Jennifer12 New Member

    Excuse me. Perhaps I should have qualified my statement and said that "some" or "many" parents don't know the difference between educational and entertainment television.

    To say no parent is that dumb is over-reaching in some cases. Just because people have children that doesn't automatically increase their common sense quotient. Trust me. I've dealt with people who have pre-schoolers that are brighter then they are. And I've dealt with parents who are very active and encourage their kids to watch shows like SS and other PBS shows.

    Jen
  20. GeeBee

    GeeBee New Member

    It's curious that the "10 Little Indian" segment made the cut on Noggin. Noggin had edited a few other skits for content that could be considered controversial. The most notable was the deletion of the line "You sissy" from "Everyone Loves Ice Cream."


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