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Behold... the New Teen Titans Cartoon...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Drtooth, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    The last part of the Island Adventures arc was REALLY epic! :)

    Probably the show's best episode yet, as well as a great conclusion to the Island Adventures arc. :excited:

    I'm not going to spoil it, so go watch it for yourselves if you haven't. ;)
     
  2. C to the J

    C to the J Active Member

    Has anyone noticed there are some episodes named after little phrases/ideas that are mentioned but seldom have anything to do with the plots of the episodes (e.g. Hose Water, Oil Drums, I'm the Sauce)? This particular direction is a little odd if you ask me.

    Whenever I hear the opening theme for the stranded-on-an-island episodes, I think of Mr. Messy from The Mr. Men Show because, you know, it's the voice of Peter Rida Michail, who, by the way, sang the first theme song for Yo-Kai Watch.
     
  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Really like how this episode went Truman show into a blaze of meta glory. Overall, I liked the arc, some things could have been pushed further, the Dinosaur episode at least paid off in this one nicely. I'm very pleased with how this event played out.
     
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  4. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    It was also cool seeing just about every TTG villain to date (perfect idea to have made the whole thing be a trap created by Control Freak) and the other secondary characters from the first four parts as well as the closing shot of a lot of the old school DC super villains... and a surprise by Slade.
     
  5. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    These are the kinds of episodes they should be doing more of. If it's not Lady Legasus, it's Control Freak making this show more fun to watch. :)

    Yeah, like maybe showing the ridiculously cheap voice casting budget that forces many of the villains into being silent. Really don't see why Billy Numerous and The Brain didn't speak here even though they re-cast them with Scott Menville.
     
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  6. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Didn't have Blackfire speak either.

    It's one of the cases where I really don't mind much, since it's supposed to be a melee anyway. I think they totally should do an episode about the villains not talking, just felt like it would have cluttered the episode up.
     
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  7. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    At least they were able to have Alexander Polinsky voice Control Freak once again.
     
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I noticed something.

    Some of the weaker episodes early on in the series share writers from Breadwinners. Gorilla was written by one of the co-Creators of that series. Now, I don't want to do the whole "I don't exactly hate Breadwinners" complicated thing, but I really think any episode of that series written by the creators is why everyone hates that show. And, sidenote, when they have professional cartoon writers write Breadwinners, the show's actually enjoyable.

    Though they also both had Amy Wolfram write episodes of both series, and she's one of the strongest TTG writers there is.
     
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  9. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    Mr. Enter just did an Admirable Animation on "TTG vs. PPG", and he brings up a lot of good points on why he thinks both shows don't work and how this crossover fixes most of those issues. Of course, I still disagree with him on the meta episodes like "Fourth Wall" and his upcoming review on "Finally a Lesson" as I find them to at least be more interesting than the typical TTG ep. where they just act like morons throughout the whole thing. Plus, at least the PPG16 writers aren't going out of their way to troll fans of the original unlike TTG.

     
  10. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but as usual, Mr. Enter is dead wrong because both shows DO work and are both great and funny shows that must be enjoyed for what they are. And the characters don't act like morons as much as you may think they do.

    And the fact that he's wrong about the meta episodes only makes him all the more dislikable due to his lack of a sense of humor and his inability to take a joke. He obviously has 0 understanding of comedy and satire.

    Sharing his content is only feeding a cyber bully who has brainwashed lots of people, has an equally awful fan base, has ridiculously high standards for cartoons (cartoons are not obligated to have morals, etc.), takes things way too seriously and has gone out of his to personally attack writers, creators, etc. and make death threats to them and brainwashed others into doing the same, etc. :mad:

    Also, TTG has every right to go out of its way to troll fanboys, considering how volatile and crybabyish they get. And don't be surprised if PPG2016 were to go and do the same thing.
     
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  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I feel the writer of this crossover gets the girls just a bit better than those who write the PPG series.

    Still, I feel real bad for the PPG showrunners. Sure, I can agree the show's not as good as the original, but at least they're trying very hard not to alienate the original's fanbase on purpose. And frankly Chris Recarrdi ruined the original show in the last season and a half of the series far more than the current show runners ever could be accused of. I can see why TTG writers are so prickly with the fanbase of that original series, considering how they are. Then again, let's not forget how butthurt the Timm-iverse fanbase was that it wasn't an exact copy of the Batman TAS/Superman TAS/Justice League universe and did its own thing. And yes, Young Justice is the superior version of those kinds of characters (and heheh it isn't in the Timmverse either), but I always felt the original series was fun and deeper than it needed to be.

    My only issue with the crossover was that it was too short. It definitely deserved a full half hour.

    As for the shows, TTG is exactly the show it wants to be, and doesn't care about the show it needs to be and in the end it works for them. PPG isn't the show it needs to be because it's only a season in and it's trying to find the balance between the original series and its own original voice. In other words, TTG just doesn't care about those who don't like it and it knows it has its fans, and that's actually good for the show. PPG couldn't please its fanbase because if they do something slightly different they'll get crap for it, but if they do something exactly the same, they'll get crap for not being as good as when they did it in the first place. TTG is a very confident series, PPG isn't.
     
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  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

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  14. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    The Titans parodied The Goonies in the latest episode, especially all the ridiculous tropes it used. Well, at least they went on an actual adventure rather than hang around the Tower in the living room and kitchen.
     
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  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'm impressed that they even referenced the big giant octopus sequence that was cut from the actual movie. These guys may not have actually watched the Teen Titans cartoon, but they sure as heck watched everything else. :fanatic:
     
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  16. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    They never meant it when they said they never watched the 2003 Teen Titans series. They were only joking, just like they and the voice actors frequently do when being interviewed about the show or doing Comic Con panels about it.

    Even if that were true, for all we know, they could've watched more and more of the previous show in the years following TTG's 2013 premiere.
     
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The writers for the show were based in the sadly cancelled CN Mad series. A show, mind you, deserved the title of "Mad" more than MadTV at least in terms of actually resembling the magazine. And that's where the incredibly detailed references to other things comes in. To say that it is true that they didn't watch the original '03 series, that seems to be a reasonable explanation of why the show does its own thing instead of parodying/referencing the previous series. And while I kinda wish they would have done more Teen Titans mythology gag stuff, I certainly feel they know what kind of show they want to do and what they want to do, and it works for them.

    But referencing a scene cut from a movie that's notorious among Goonies fans and making fun of its lack of inclusion was brilliant. You can always tell what they did watch. 20/40/20 Percent with the original animated Transformers movie, having Howlin' Mad Murdoch himself as the voice of the television in an episode referencing the A-Team...seriously, the show won me over entirely in the one where they turn in Silky to the Moth for money they referenced Ducktales.
     
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  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Wow.

    That was subversive. And not too subtle. Considering the fact that in Regular Show, the owner of Steak me Amadeus shot the robot criminals that took over his restaurant over them denouncing a college education. Somehow, I really respect TTG for going there and ripping mainstream colleges and student loans a new one.
     
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  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I really liked this one. To anyone who grew up with Apple II computer games in grade school, they'll know how mindlessly boring these things really were. Especially Oregon Trail, punctuated by Robin who bemoans the fact the hunting and rafting are the only fun parts of the game.
     
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  20. mr3urious

    mr3urious Well-Known Member

    That was certainly a more fun episode thanks to all the references to that infamous computer game. Would have liked to see Robin write "peperony and chease" on one of the tombstones, but oh well.
     
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