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Character changes?

Discussion in 'Muppet Babies' started by Baby Gonzo, Sep 2, 2008.

  1. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    Good thing too. Miss Piggy only has eyes for a certain green frog...
  2. muppet baby

    muppet baby Well-Known Member

    yep so true, no one denie that truth .
  3. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    Especially since they were married. XD
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Seems to me, Baby Bean was unsure of himself and constantly depressed... and somewhat of a loaner. I am reading into it too far, since clearly the writers didn't know what they wanted to do with him. He asserts his cuteness a bunch of times, but somehow I think he doesn't know how to make people like him. In "Whose Tale is it Anyway" he actually sings a song about how he wants to make everyone happy at the cost of his own happiness. In fact, that was the only episode where they gave him a character instead of hand me down lines from another character.

    Freddy wasn't just a moron... he was a VINDICTIVE moron, constantly framing everything on his nemesis Red Herring.

    Of course, other than his leadership skills, his adult counterpart lacked personality most of the time. The movie version, seems like Freddie Prinz Jr. played him as the "Pup" version... where as the What's new Scooby Doo? episodes made him a little more personable, but like his older self.

    Without a doubt, that's where the idea came from. I feel the Gonzo crush on Piggy in TMS was something that came out of the character BEFORE the chicken attraction (which really started out with Dave's adlib "You didn't get the Part. Nice legs, though.")

    However, it seems the one difference Baby Bunsen has over his adult self is the know-it-all factoid spewing in certain episodes... what's the one where they pretend to go to outer space, but it isn't "From a Galaxy Far Far Away?"
  5. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    And only once was he right!
  6. Baby Rowlf

    Baby Rowlf Well-Known Member

    I hated Baby Bean. I thought he was unnecessary, and that his character was all wrong. In fact, I could never understand why in the case of Baby Bean and Baby Janice, their voices were deeper than their adult selves. As far as his personality went, I felt he was too much of a smart aleck, and never really fit in with the other Babies. And then later on, he seemed to be more of a replacement for Baby Rowlf, taking over the puppy's role as the straight man, and even in one instance playing the piano!

    That would be, Where No Muppet Has Gone Before". :)
  7. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    Perhaps sadly foreshadowing Rowlf's role in the franchise (as even adult Rowlf is sparingly used, nowadays)?
  8. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    It's just hard introducing a new character into a group. And I don't know exactly why but in TV Land these forced-in new characters often just come across obnoxious. Maybe it is just a case of trying too hard.
  9. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    Especially one as diverse as The Muppets.
  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I had a thread about him some time back.. it's probably still here... And I just don't understand WHY they needed to add a new character into the show (a Baby Rizzo palling around with Gonzo would have made more sense). I heard that the president of the network's daughter didn't like Bunsen and Beaker.... of course, Bunsen's knowledge was replaced by the old timey experience of Uncle Statler and Waldorf.

    Replacing characters couldn't have been about the merchandising... I mean, the main merchandise was Baby Kermit, Piggy, Sometimes Fozzie, Rowlf, and Gonzo. Occassionally Animal... rarely Scooter and Skeeter... no one else was made into figures or plush or anything.
  11. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    And since the main babies were the only ones being merchandised, Busen and Beaker should've stayed, in my honest opinion.
  12. Baby Rowlf

    Baby Rowlf Well-Known Member

    Actually, on a side note, I think I've seen much more merchandising with Baby Animal than I have with Baby Rowlf. Baby Animal, along with Kermit, Piggy, Fozzie, and Gonzo, seemed to make up the "main 5" of the Muppet Babies after awhile. This trend I've noticed has carried over to the marketing of their adult forms as well.
  13. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    Poor Rowlf. He's getting left out. But at least, he still sporadically appears, unlike Scooter, who hasn't been seen much since Richard's passing.
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I dunno... I remember having a Hasbro Rowlf, and not seeing that much baby Animal stuff... All I know is that he was in the Happy Meal as a Canadian exclusive figure... but that's not the point.

    On that subject, did Animal have any major changes aside from the voice actor change? If there were, I didn't notice them...
  15. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    He didn't have his chain or his drum set yet...XD
  16. Baby Gonzo

    Baby Gonzo Well-Known Member

    There's also the fact that Animal and Gonzo were closer here when they are hardly even seen together in any other show or movie. In a way, Gonzo took over the Floyd caretaker role for Animal.
  17. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    And in a way, Animal was what Rizzo is now.
  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Actually, I got sorta confused and was thinking of Character Changes in the show...

    Anyway, other than the fact he was a lot sweeter and more innocent and Baby like, he basically stayed the same. Other than the Gonzo thing.....
  19. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh Well-Known Member

    It's odd that the show's entitled Muppet Babies, and yet, the babies seem more like toddlers (as they can walk, talk, and imagine rather well) and Janice--when she arrived--seemed more like a 8-10 year old, considering her reading skill.
  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Toddlers doesn't have the same punch when you add it to the title. And personally, Janice seems more like a 4-5 year old... and I'm pretty sure she's lying about reading... cuz there's no rock concert in Peter Rabbit...

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