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Eisner confirms Disney could buy Henson and Muppets soon

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Mar 19, 2003.

  1. JamieDenny

    JamieDenny Well-Known Member

    Brian made a HUGE mistake in selling to EMTV, but hey it's a $700 million dollar mistake, so yes I'd say he had a huge smile on his face.
    I hope that in time he comes to realise his mistake. It won't be in time to save the Muppets from the three fingered white gloved claws. If i won the lottery I'd put in a bid and hand the company back to the people who KNOW what to do with the Muppets...JHC productions.
    Im angry and hurt that the characters I know and love are being treated like they no longer matter.
    Im not Anti-Brian, Im sure he's a nice guy, people who have met him say he is and i take that as read, but I'm anti the decsion he made.
    That said he's only human and who knew what was going to happen. :confused:
    It is my personal view that Diz doesn't understand the Muppets. I may be wrong but seeing as I've always viewed the Muppets as the Anti-Dis.*and thats a good thing*
    When was the last time Disney had a penguin singing a love song to his penguin girlfriend just before the were both consumed by a monster *never happenned on the Muppet Show but there was always potential*
    Can you imagine Disney having Alice Cooper on one of their shows?
    Or what about IAVMMC, Dis would never have sanctioned that.
    Okay there will be lots of merchandise, but will it be of the quality we are used to?
    More theme-park rides, thats great news, if you live in a place near a theme park.
    Disney is all about nice things without touching on reality, you cant get a newspaper in their parks, in case the real world interferes, all the horses on their roundabout are painted white because apparentley there are no bad guys in Disney World.
    The reasonthe Muppets became so big was the fact that in their own way they mirrored human being with all their frailties.
    I've met people like Kermit, I've never met anyone who was like Mickey Mouse before.
    Im sure ive said all this before but heck I'll keep saying it untill people listen to me.
    I don't hate Dis, but im uncertain about them in conjunction with the Muppets:concern:
  2. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    As i've said before, i don't see the non-classic Muppets automatically being part of a rights deal for 'The Muppets' characters. It just doesn't work that way in media - i think legally it's all divided into seperate brands. Just look at how tight the licensing has been for Palisades Muppets and the restrictions there. Thats not to say that Disney won't negotiate for extra things they might want like 'Fraggle' etc - the rich thing about the Henson Company is the countless hours of quality TV programming and Disney are a company with lots of space to fill in various places, i'm just saying you can't really just assume it will contain distribution rights for all the other shows too. Even if it didn't - yes it would be bad (a travesty to some) that the Muppets were split up from other shows and characters we love but EMTV or JHC (if it still existed) would still own that stuff and make money from distributing it like they do now. Even in worse case scenario and EMTV went bankrupt holding the rights to things like 'Fraggle Rock', 'Labyrinth', 'Dark Crystal' they would likely still get bought cheaply by Disney or someone similar - and as i've said, JHC is managing to make lots of money in the UK without the classic Muppets so the company without 'The Muppets' would be an attractive opportunity for some too.
  3. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    My 400th message/Happy Birthday Mom!

    Four fingers. And I'm not concerned with what Disney has traditionally done with THEIR characters over the past 80 years, to me it's about what this big media conglom can do for the Muppets. Might not be perfect, but it's not like it's any better now, or at least until late last year anyway.

    Anyway, like I'VE said before, if I had enough money I'd consider buying the whole Henson library and the Creature Shop. Don't know what they'd be worth altogether, but to own my favorite nostalgic puppet shows and fantasy films and a creature-effects shop, it'd be sweet.

    Or at best, get a bunch of entertainment jobs at Disney or wherever, work my way up, and run the Henson/Muppet division myself. Oh yes, a beautiful 25-30 year plan.
  4. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Isn't it three fingers and a thumb? LOL! ;) Is a thumb technically a finger? I think so. Hmmm.

    I just see Disney as the ultimate winner. There are things they do that are really cool and others that make my skin crawl, but that comes with the territory in any company of their stature. It would be nice if a smaller company owned them. I'm just glad that they'd be back in America again. There was something unsettling about such an American icon being owned by a German company. Not wrong or bad, but it just seemed strange. Brits would do a good job too I think. I can just see Miss Piggy sitting in with Simon on Idol. LOL!

    BTW, Luke. What is the UK company who was thinking about buying the Muppets? What is their status in the business and are they still in the running? :confused:
  5. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    That UK company was Entertainment Rights, correct? One of the Valentine articles in January said they were out of the hunt.
  6. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Yeah Entertainment Rights, they are a HOT company with top people, more or less everything they have done has been successful - i would definitely trust the Muppets with them beyond a shadow of a doubt. Sadly out of the running it seems, there have also been rumors about HIT showing an interest again, they have some free money to spend.
  7. JamieDenny

    JamieDenny Well-Known Member

    Yeah I like the idea of a sucessful british company running the Muppets :)
  8. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    I would definitely trust the British company more than any other company in the running right now. I would have trusted a sale in the beginning to a British company, but I never trusted the EM.TV sale. Never.

    GO BRITS!!
  9. Movies205

    Movies205 Well-Known Member

    I have a question what happens if EMTV not able to sell the muppets by the end of april...
  10. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    Then we'd probably be asking ourselves "What will happen if EM.TV is not able to sell the Muppets by the end of May?"

    And personally, I don't think Disney will buy the Muppets and/or Henson. I just don't think they will. Despite all these half-baked articles, it just seems too likely to be likely. I still think it'll be May and we're still talking about these German retards who couldn't sell a real frog and pig if their financial futures depended on it. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I've grown tired of optimism.
  11. trekkie1701E

    trekkie1701E Well-Known Member

    I hope to God you end up being correct.

    This little game with Eisner has been going on for too long; so, yeah, I guess I'm suspiciously optimistic -- Did that even make sense? :) -- that the muppets will not be joining Mickey & Donald.
  12. Muppets1985

    Muppets1985 Well-Known Member

    Awww... BoyRaisin!!:cry: How can u say that man!???:eek: :cry: :cry: :sympathy:
  13. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    Hey, I still WANT it to happen (as long as ALL Muppets are involved), but I don't want to get my hopes up so much. I had officially lost hope and almost moved on in early Dec. after those four suitors were eyeing Henson. Then on Dec. 19, Disney came in with their "upcoming" $135 million bid. Then Dean "I need a job" Valentine came on Christmas Eve and puked on everything.

    Though it now seems more likely that Disney will finally buy the Muppets (as the JIM HENSON CO.), I just don't wanna be totally optimistic, 'cause optimism will only just stab me in the back.

    And it's been TWO YEARS!!!
  14. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    OK EM.TV, you have seven days to pay that loan...
  15. JamieDenny

    JamieDenny Well-Known Member

    Of course seeing as they've sold Prosatbien the bank may well have a little more left in their good will tank and let them have an extension....lets hope not, if they HAVE to go to Disney then lets just get it over with
  16. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    I think the Prosatbien.1 asset Saban bought was part of the collapsed Kirch Group, so I don't think it effects EM.TV's loan in any way. I don't know, I've always been confused with the whole Kirch-EM.TV relationship.

    Though I do agree that EM.TV will probably get yet ANOTHER extension. EM.TV to the bank: "Yeah, about the Muppets. Is it cool if we get one month on that? No? OK, how about 31 more days?"

    Prove me wrong, Werner Klatten, prove me wrong. B-yotch...

    --end scene--
  17. Boober_Gorg

    Boober_Gorg Well-Known Member

    I posted something here a few minutes ago, but my question has just been answered. Never mind.
  18. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    Re: a little retrospective

    3/19/03: Eisner says buyout of Henson "could happen soon."

    5/6/03: Sesame Workshop joins Classic Media in joint bid to acquire Henson, with financing from Sony's Columbia TriStar Home Entertainment.

    5/7/03: The Henson Family buys The Jim Henson Company from EM.TV.

    Just adding a bit to the retrospective.
  19. Chilly Down

    Chilly Down Well-Known Member

    Thanks for updating that! It has been a looney roller coaster ride, hasn't it?
  20. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    Yet I have a feeling it's not over yet.

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