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Eisner confirms Disney could buy Henson and Muppets soon

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Mar 19, 2003.

  1. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    You could even go pre-84. There was the time when Jim wanted to buy Disney. Then there was the first time Jim asked Eisner to buy the Henson Company and he said the Muppets weren't hot enough and to go away (in polite terms).

    Y'see Jim Hill didn't tell ya about all that ! Huh Huh ?

    He has been amazingly quiet hasn't he ? :rolleyes:
  2. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Well-Known Member

    Yeah where is that Jim Hill guy anyway?

  3. Chilly Down

    Chilly Down Well-Known Member

    I thought the 84/85 incident was when Jim tried to buy Disney. Anyway, ironically, the first time I heard about Jim trying to buy Disney...was in a Jim Hill article. Not that I'm his biggest fan or anything, but I'll give credit where it's due. :)
  4. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    Yeah I knew about the time Jim wanted to buy Disney, just didn't write it down for some reason.

    And from Jim Hill I got the info of Jim wanting Disney to buy Henson in '85, but from newspaper articles I have from the time the actual merger was going on, some of them said Eisner had informally tried to get Henson under the Disney umbrella once he took control of the company in '84. So, either way, there were "talks" around this period.

    As for JH's whereabouts, I'd wait 'til his next "Why For?" article at his website, and see if he mentions the Muppets. The last time he talked about them, he seemed to be leaning away from Disney buying JHC (remember the turkey vulture and "Downer" he was talking to on the phone?). Though I think he'll probably still say something interesting.
  5. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    No, Eisner was never interested in Henson when he first took control - Jim approached him but he didn't think the Muppets were hot enough. A few years later when Henson were doing more stuff, Henson approached Eisner again and then you got the failed merger we all know about and they were the only talks that ever took place. So those articles are wrong i think, or at least according to the Brillstein book.
  6. radionate

    radionate Well-Known Member

    Like what?

    "I knew the kids were bidding all along"

    "Disney pulled out like I said they would because the kids were bidding"

    "I know the whereabout of Elvis!"

    I'd rather read my Alphabet Soup. :rolleyes:
  7. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    Not talking about Jim Hill here, but I hate it when journalists lie or exaggerate. For example, the New York Post article "Eisner Nears Muppet Rescue" on May 5, saying, as the title suggests, that Disney was close(r) to buying Henson, then a mere two days later, the Henson family ends up buying the company at 6am CST. Adding to that, it was revealed, that the Hensons started their pursuit two weeks before because Disney apparently BACKED OUT of the bidding then and it was Classic/Sesame REALLY nearing a deal with EM.TV, which thankfully never came to fruition.

    Since that's true apparently, then what the freak was that May 5 article about then, with the "Disney may pay $100 million - $70 million in cash and $30 million in assumed debt" stuff? Even saw Neil Cavuto's show on Fox News on May 5, and on the screen it said "NYP: DISNEY SEEN BUYING JIM HENSON CO. FROM EM.TV FOR $70 MIL". And that was the first time I had EVER seen a mention--even if it was just words on a screen--of EM.TV or the Henson sale in general, so it was a head trip to me.

    Anyway, I mean, what is with these multiple anonymous sources? Someone needs to make a book on this whole thing, or Muppet Central should get back into the interview business and talk with Brian Henson or Werner Klatten or something 'cause I've been going nuts!

    And that's my rant.
  8. trekkie1701E

    trekkie1701E Well-Known Member

    I honestly think that some people were just too anxious for Eisner to purchase the muppets. I mean, there were some diehard "everything Disney touches turns to gold" people on various Disney message boards who were drooling at the prospect of "Disney's Muppets."

    When the Henson's bought the JHC, that shut them up. He!! ... some of them probably didn't even know Jim Henson had kids:D
  9. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Sure a lot of it was spin, but a lot of it was fact. Some news seemed about two weeks out of date, and other stories over the two years were obvious leaks from Allen & Co to get more companies interested in the bidding. I'd think a lot of the stories about Disney a week or two before the end were to persuade Disney not to walk away. The more people that think Disney is going to buy the Muppets, the more pressure there is on them to do it, and they get to see people's reaction to it. We know at one point they were very close because of the Eisner statement - he doesn't do favors for anyone so that must have been true.

    I would imagine that one of the reasons Disney backed away, as well as the whole German politics things, was that possibly EMTV wouldn't sell them just the characters and tape library at the right price and the other obstructions were what prevented them from making a move on the entire company which i'm sure EMTV was glad to get rid of in one piece. If it wouldn't have been Henson kids/Disney/Sesame then they would have started breaking the company up more i think.
  10. sarah_yzma

    sarah_yzma Well-Known Member

    I don't know...my soup always has bad words:eek:


    hey if he can tell us where the king is we could make some cash;)
  11. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    The King went home.

    Hey, did you know Disney's going through financial troubles? (at least the Disney Store is) If the whoe company is, though, imagin what could have happened to the Muppets if they had bought them!
  12. sarah_yzma

    sarah_yzma Well-Known Member

    park attendance is down 18% and they have a new offer 7 nights for the price of 4


    if only airlines weren't so high.....
  13. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    Yes, they'd be better off than they are now. I'm not bashing the Henson family and I'm sure they'll do whatever they can to jump-start the franchise (they'd have to), but the Muppets need all the help they can get and need a money-rich conglomerate behind them. Disney's finances are kinda tight, but they ain't poor. And seeing how they came close to getting Henson, what, two or three times, maybe there's something there (OK, I don't even know what that meant).

    But hey, we'll see how this new era of strategic partnerships goes. I'm just grateful Classic and Sesame didn't get it. :grouchy:
  14. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    I had actually meant that in a bad way. If Disney bought them, and started going through financial roubles, the Muppets'd be the first to go (not literaly, but, you can bet we would have been seeing a whole lot less of them).
  15. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    Well, it's not like we're seeing a bunch of them now, thought it looks like we may. Once again, I'm glad Classic and Sesame didn't get them.
  16. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    We've been seeing a ton of the Muppets on TV lately! Either in interviews, on Hollywood Squares, etc. The month of May was quite a big month for the Muppets on TV.

    And as far as them actually doing alot, 2002 was a god year for that. They made the TV movie, Kermit's Swamp Years, and several TV commercials. It was probably a better year than some times during the 1960s!
  17. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    Yes, 2002 was a good year for the Muppets (heck, they were in a music video!). But can it continue? I think it can, but the Hensons will need to work hard to achieve that. I'm not talking about toys and obscure game show appearances, I mean well, first and foremost, a new show! We're not even sure how the Fox show is progressing, though I guess those plans are still going forward.

    By the time Henson was sold to EM.TV in 2000, it needed help from a greater power to keep the franchise going. They can't live on Hollywood Squares forever.

    The Muppets need to be working on a regular basis or they will be considered and remain a deteriorating franchise, though the recent Muppet events are a good sign, none moreso than the NBC movie.

    So we'll see how it all goes.
  18. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    They are making 2 TV movies that are coming up.

    And, yes, I agree with you. The Muppets can't stick only to H2 forever. Muppets live not by Hollywood Squares alone!

    And, you're right, they really do need that TV show. And so do we. :)
  19. BoyRaisin2

    BoyRaisin2 Well-Known Member

    So they ARE doing more TV movies for sure is that a rumor? I keep hearing about the 2 theatrical films (Haunted House, Time Travel) and possibly another NBC movie, but I don't know which is true.

    Yes, we NEED the TV show. Recently, I've just craved a new weekly Muppet show. After watching the Odyssey Muppetisms on the 'net and watching the NBC movie, I just want to see the characters do something new and funny week after week. I want to know what they're up to and how they have changed and see the new gang (Pepe, Fiamma, etc) increase in popularity and the older guys to be in the spotlight as well. I don't even care if the show's short-lived (OK I do care). I don't even care if it's on basic cable, just give us something. Heck, make more Muppetisms, those were some of the best things Henson has done since Jim died IMO.

    I just need more stuff to watch. The 1st, 2nd, or 3rd thing I want the Hensons to do is sign some deal with Nickelodeon, Disney, or whoever and get the series and specials from the Henson library and put them on TV. I ain't going to the Museum of TV & Radio in New York anytime soon.

    Huhhh, it's not easy bein' a hardcore Muppet fan.
  20. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    It doesn't look good for the Fox show at all, and i think it is suggested they could be doing one new TV movie for NBC with another possibly to follow - but thats nowhere near official. If any of this is happening we'll know very shortly.

    There are apparently new projects yet to be announced though - not sure what they are.

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