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Little things we've noticed

Discussion in 'Classic Sesame Street' started by minor muppetz, Aug 18, 2009.

  1. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I think I read around here that the fence is broken because Herry burst through it before the song happened.
  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Interesting. Well, that finally answers that question.
  3. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Honestly I've always wanted to see the full episode after seeing more footage from the song. Guess that will always just be a dream. :(
  4. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    Whenever SST releases any clips from old street scenes, it always makes me anxious to see the rest of the episode.
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  5. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Same deal for me.
  6. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    This took me awhile to notice, but I noticed the paper hanging around the fence in Little Chrissy's "Startin' Kindergarten" has the Alphabet on it. The commercial upload helped me see it better.

    On another note, I actually now just realized (or at least think) "I go to School" was originally an album song before going on the show (with Bob doing the cheering and all...)
  7. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    It was definitely on the show first.
  8. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Are you sure? Cause I was always under the impression that the song was just taken from the album and lip-synched (like any regular song) with Little Chrissy's lines muted and Bob doing the cheerleading live during filming.
  9. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    All the songs off that album are from the show; there's no reason one random Little Chrissy song would be an original.

    And just because it aired in a season 23 ep, remember, that's the earliest known appearance. It's copyright dated 1989, so it's from season 21. The album came out in 1990, and considering it has a song by Lillian on it, who didn't appear until season 22, the song had to exist prior to late 1990.
  10. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    I know it's the earliest; I was always under the impression it was from season 22, but the mention of Lillian answers my question. I just never really bothered to look at the other songs on the cassette.
    Last edited: Nov 28, 2017
  11. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Here's a little thing I've noticed.

    Apparently episode 12 is "lost" just because it didn't leak back in 2014 and because the "intelligent" fans said so, right? *Sarcastic laugh*

    Sorry, had to get this off my chest after seeing this video (which the first half of is inaccurate anyway; had this been done back in 09/10, I would have completely agreed with it), cause I myself am just sick of these dumb*** fans acting like they know everything about everything when it comes to Sesame Workshop:

  12. wiley207

    wiley207 Well-Known Member

    I don't know if it's just me, but I noticed Jim Henson performed a LOT of Large Lavender Live Hand Anything Muppet minor/one-off characters.
  13. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I almost feel like Jim had a preference for performing glove puppets over rod puppets, considering a majority of his regular characters were just that: Ernie, Rowlf, Dr. Teeth.

    At the same time, I get the feeling Marty Robinson is more accustomed to glove hands as well, because whenever he does rod characters (like Ole MacDonald, for example), the hand and arm movements always look really exaggerated and odd.
  14. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Jim certainly did perform alot of the large lavender Muppets.

    But hey, they are probably easier to operate.
  15. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Am I the only one who's noticed in the song "Fat Cat", Jerry Nelson is the only one who actually, well... Sings? (Excluding Bip's fast-paced scats).

    Not that it really matters, just something I've noticed.
  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Not that, but I have noticed that Jim's vocal track for the lavender AM is noticably sped-up during the first portion.

    But then again, like I've said before, I've noticed in "I'm Between," the green AM's voice goes from sounding like a distressed Nigel the Conductor up until the line, "Oh there's a monster on my left side," then he sounds like a nervous Ernie for the rest of the song.
  17. cjd874

    cjd874 Well-Known Member

    Let's not forget these other classic bits with Jim Henson performing a Live-Hand Muppet.

    However, I've noticed that Jerry Nelson's Lavender Live-hand Muppets became quite famous. Jim seemed to do mostly one-shot characters, while Jerry's characters included the Count, Biff, the Amazing Mumford, and Rodeo Rosie.
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  18. cjd874

    cjd874 Well-Known Member

    I can see why...live-hand Muppets are more expressive than rod Muppets for the most part. They can pick up objects, count on their hands, point, and do things that rod Muppets can't do as easily.

    I feel like the breakdown is this: the Sesame performers who did or have done live-hand puppets most often were Jim (Ernie), Jerry (the Count/Herry Monster), Martin Robinson (Telly), and David Rudman (Baby Bear/Cookie Monster). Frank (Bert/Grover/Lefty), Fran (Zoe/Prairie), Kevin Clash (Elmo/Natasha), and Leslie Rudolph (Abby) did the rod puppets.

    On the Muppet Show, the main live-hand characters (Fozzie, Swedish Chef, Lew Zealand) were played by Jim, Frank, and Jerry, while Dave, Richard, and Steve usually handled rod puppets like Gonzo, Scooter, Janice, and Rizzo. However, it's safe to say that all these performers were/are extremely comfortable with any kind of puppet given to them.
  19. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Has anyone besides me ever noticed how in the Big Barney Western skit, the bartender just disappears... Literally dipping down off the screen and then all the cowboys talk to nothing when they ask for drinks? I always found it funny.
  20. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    One thing I've noticed about the Bert puppets of the 70s is that he's always got distinctive creases in his face, such as one puppet has a crease running in between his eyes, and another puppet has one that runs above his upper mouth. I feel like they're somehow tied to his eyebrow mech.

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