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Master Replicas Gonzo Photo Puppet

Discussion in 'Muppet Replicas' started by MuppetCaper, Nov 2, 2007.

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  1. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    Am I missing something here....less than perfect? Who ever said they where going to be perfect in the beginning? And they did say that they are still working on him. We don't eve know what the final product will look like. They are still showing it to Disney and getting things changed on him. I cannot believe that some are still going by the "old prototype photo's". Amy even said that they are still working on him with professional Muppet people as well as Disney. The one on the webpage is NOT the final product. Sheesh. And last, I think he will sell just fine. Just cause something does not sell out doesn't mean that he is not doing good market wise.
  2. KermieBaby47

    KermieBaby47 Well-Known Member

    MuppetCaper, I'm not really sure why you are getting so upset. When you started this thread, you made it sound like (to me at least, that's why I was so worried) these were supposed to be new pictures of a new prototype. Myself and others suggested changes, and you jumped right on board. Now that Amy has indeed confirmed that these are just pics of the same old prototype, you make it sound like you knew this all along.

    My mistake, I didn't know that. Yes, we do now know that they're still working on him, that they're indeed addressing our concerns (first news on the adjustments that we've ever heard I'll remind you), I'm sure we'll all calm down. Please remember this before you decide that we've all got our heads somewhere, alright my friend?

    I'm very glad to finally hear some news from MR about Gonzo. Hopefully they'll be able to share news more often than not so this doesn't get blown way out of proportion again.

  3. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    I am not upset....just confused is all. And I did not jump on board anything, I agreed with is all. And gave you her email address.....Maybe even suggest that we all help out is all. But never jumuped anything.

    I have always been happy with him from the get go. I never placed any judgements on him other than his suit color. I am happy with whatever they do with him. It's just the nitpicking gets a little old is all. I hope you understand.

    Oh yeah, I wanted to add this also. During trivia Friday, these are what Amy showed me and we all thought they where new pictures. My bad....I did not know.

    No heart feelings? :o
  4. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    I agree it was never gonna be a mirror copy of a Muppet, but from the claims of them being the most realistic, most authentic, using close materials etc etc as well as the price these come in at, you would be expecting something pretty spot on - just like proto Kermit and just like the proto seen of Fozzie. I don't feel they have done that with either Gonzo or Animal (from what i have seen so far). I don't particularly blame them for it - just Henson are the best puppet builders in the world. You're not going to be able to just give a knocked down version of some of these puppet designs to some factory in China and get a decent looking product out - you have to use certain materials, shape and stitch them a certain way to get the right look or it doesn't work, period. The Muppets are a hard sell even with the top quality $10 figures, so with something like this maybe the more basic puppet designs would have made better character choices, at least at first.

    This kinda goes back to the debate when these were announced as to whether Disney should have ever granted this license. A lot of people were against it because they felt if the likeness didn't do the actual puppets justice it would degrade the image of the Muppet characters. I was all for it because i felt MR would somehow end up nailing these, but i'm a bit more on the fence now. None of them have looked bad by any means and i'm sure they will improve a fair bit before we see them but i just expected a little more - if doing $1000 ltd editions of 500, with original matierials and by pro puppet builders would have meant the serious collectors ended up with absolute museum pieces like you get with some high end Star Wars, i would have rather they done that.
  5. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    :zany: Apparently the suit color they have chosen coincides exactly with the PMS color they received. MR is aware this color looks redder, they think it is a smidge redder too, but that it also looks good (and classic) when ya see him.

    The number of him, however...they must have a lot of confidence in him. The price? Not pleased, but again, it shows that they have confidence in the blue dude. I hope they're right! :concern:
  6. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member


    Gonzo was to be $199.00 and Fozzie $399.00, but she added it was preliminary information so everything is subject to change.(And it did in Gonzo's case- now I am worried with Fozzie, both price wise and also that the line will get cancelled before he makes it due to slow sales):eek:
  7. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    As for the price...I am REALLY confused. I asked Amy which price is it. Cause in the newsletter, it said $250 and on the webpage it say $300.00. Talking about confussion. YIKE! :concern:

    I haven't got a responce yet from her regarding the price.
  8. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Maybe the price and number of Gonzos went up due to the cost of alterations. He is, admitedly, one of the most difficult Muppets to create. I'm just speculating about that. I did anticipate a price hike if they tinkered with the design. How things go. This increase causes me to believe MR is actually making improvements! So, I hope it's a good thing.

    Man, I just checked-out the site and there's a lot of promise in the photographs. I still would like to see some texture on the nose. I'd also like to see nose texture and shading. The sagging lip (they are looking into) is quite evident in their crossed-arm pose of Gonzo. It's the center of his face in the photograph. Hmmm. I hope they get around to fixing that.

    So, still buyin' him. Just don't know how happy I'm going to be yet. I really hope this becomes the standard Gonzo! :concern:
  9. Davina

    Davina Well-Known Member

    well, i have to say, at least the nose looks pretty good in the prototype photo.. much better then the earlier ones anyway :)

    no, just to find out what's going on with that price issue....
  10. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    I have faith that it's only get better! ;)
  11. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Yeah it doesn't surprise me that it might be to do with the reference back from the Disney people. I remember Ken saying it was all down to how knowledgable the person reviewing is and sometimes what was down on paper from years back had gone through changes on the show and didn't match the actual thing once in production. I'll wait to see what the final version looks like.

    As for the numbers and cost etc. My feeling on it is that this kinda product is unlikely to be done again and those people willing to invest would pay top dollar for it. I just want a Fozzie like the prototype, if its $500-$600 (considering the size, double that of the others), they make less and they all sell out quick surely its better than them getting stuck overstock of $300 dumbed down ones. MR are doing a fairly good job though at any rate - considering individual puppets would set people back thousands. :o
  12. antonydavanzo

    antonydavanzo Well-Known Member

    I still dont think the muppet replicas are a lot of money, £150 for Gonzo is nothing IMO.
  13. antonydavanzo

    antonydavanzo Well-Known Member

    Quote from Muppet Caper at the MR forum!

    Thanks Amy for making us aware of that. Too bad the group at Muppet Central cannot get there heads out of there you know what and consider that.

    I hope this does not stop his pre-order for this week. I am still excited!

    So we have our heads in are ***'s do we! You did start this thread and you made out it was a new pic of Gonzo! Im not really liking the fact that you posted that on the forum when a lot of our opinions have been instigated from misinfomation from you.
    PS you also stated that Amy emailed you the updates when clearly its just posted on MRS forum.....Im smelling something a little rotten from you at the mo Muppet Caper!:boo:
  14. Mistersuperstar

    Mistersuperstar Well-Known Member

    For $200 the quality of Kermit was amazing. As long as MR keep up the standard, the prices are more than worth the final product. Plus, if kept in great condition, the value of these items are sure to go up over the coming years.
  15. Mistersuperstar

    Mistersuperstar Well-Known Member

    The prototype photos on the MR website won't do the final piece justice in my opinion. The first Kermit photos were not too great either. I would ask anyone who is wondering whether to buy or not to not go by the official photos because I don't think they will do these replicas justice. If you are concerned, why not wait until others have posted there own photos of Gonzo before you get your order in. There are some very talented poser photographers on this forum and you will know from their photos whether Gonzo is worth your money.
  16. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    She never emailed me about anything. I was refering to the post at MR. Go back and read your post. And yes I said that comment refering to the fact that everyone is being so judgemental about him. It is getting tiring reading all the negativaty about him. If you don't like him....DON"T GET HIM. But do not make it bad for the rest of us here. Say what you will antony. Get your facts straight. seems like no one can enjoy anything without making trouble.

    Go back to Master Replicas and READ the friday trivia post and you will see that she posted the pictures up there! And get your facts right!
  17. antonydavanzo

    antonydavanzo Well-Known Member

    My facts are straight...........I will be getting him! How can I not get him, its the only chance of getting a replica of Gonzo. I just dont really like the comment you made on the MR site about the comments we are making here. Anyway done and dusted.
    I have to say that I think as you clearly are the biggest Gonzo fan here that maybe you should ask MR and Muppet Central if you could do one of the 1st reviews of Gonzo!
    I will be soooo glad when we get a final pic of Gonzo as the making of him has had more ups and downs that an average relationship!
    I do hope we get a smooth run with Fozzie.
    PS Who thinks that Gonzo is very cheap? I think that £150 is a steal.
  18. mrsieve

    mrsieve Well-Known Member

  19. antonydavanzo

    antonydavanzo Well-Known Member

    i cant see the pre order tab
  20. Mistersuperstar

    Mistersuperstar Well-Known Member

    £150 is a good price considering how much time and effort that has been put into him. Do you reckon he will be in the same size box as Kermit? Any idea on the total height of the wierdo? Smaller or bigger than Kermit? There can't be much in it.

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