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Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by The Count, Feb 2, 2005.

  1. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    See, now that's why I was waiting for your reply MD.

    To clarify about the Storyteller and other second halves of JHH.
    1 The Storyteller himself and his dog, who I presume to be voiced by Brian Henson, are already listed so why not everyone else from those stories?
    2 You could also probably see that if the Storyteller's Dog is listed, then Dog or Doug the Dinosaur should be too since it was a similar-sounding voice for both.
    3 If the Ultra-Gorgon's listed, then it makes sense that the other characters from his story be included too.
    4 The main reason to include all of these... the Storyteller and other stories were meant to serve as the second halves of JHH. In other words, JHH is made up equally of both the Muppet episodes and the stories presented as the second half of the overall JHH episode. If only the Muppet portions of the episode were to be counted, then you'd only have half a show and thus the stories should be included to make up both the whole show and a completist JHH listing/inclusion in the overall list.
    Hope this helps explain things. There are a few of these that I'll have to go over again and find, probably on Friday my next free day. Also have to check some miscellaneous entries I got from Jedi_X's site and see where they appeared there to see if I've already asked about them or if I need to ask again.
    Hope to hear from you guys soon, and have a great day.
  2. muppet_dk

    muppet_dk Active Member

    Let me see if I understand this. You want to list the storyteller segments because they where used as the second half of the show. Does that mean that the storyteller episodeds that was not used on JHH would not be listed.

    If you want to list the regular storyteller episodes, then what about the storyteller: Greek Myths, are you wanting them on your list too ?
  3. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Ah, you guys know how to ask good questions, I'll give you that. Well, I'm trying to track down a copy of Storyteller: Greek Myths as a gift for my college myth professor. Would have to ask if John Hurt was still the Storyteller for those stories. Then again, maybe those would need to be set apart under the Storyteller label proper, and then the stuff from the series. Cause I know that if I allow the characters from the Storyteller from JHH and the Greek myths, the next thing you guys will ask is about the stuff from the TV series. So let's just take it one step at a time, let's get everything from JHH I've posted above squared away first. After that's done, then we can talk about the Greek Myths and the TV series.
    Hope this helpps answer your questions.
  4. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    1) I can see why the Ultragorgon, the Storyteller's Dog, and Dog are counted (since they interact with other Muppets [Jo-Jo] on the show, namely the "Secrets of the Muppets" episode), but that's the problem; they're the only ones who interacted with them. Jim talks about them, but never refers to them as "Muppet productions".

    2) I'm not sure I understand why similar-sounding voices have to do with different characters.

    4) True, but the other half of the series can be counted as a separate television show, even though they were aired as a part of JHH. All of them were collectively released on a DVD box set.

    This part of the list is really confusing me. :confused:
  5. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK then, let's just go by Point 4 which lays down the strongest argument anyway. Though the Storyteller was released on its own as a collected DVD, I'm not sure what was entirely on that DVD release since I don't own a copy. But still, would the DVD have been released if JHH were a solid Muppet hourlong program or if the Storyteller didn't exist and JHH were just a half-hour long Muppet show? No, the fact is that the Storyteller and the other stories like Lighthouse Island and Song of the Cloud Forest are part of JHH and considered as part of the overall show itself. More so Monster Maker and Living with Dinosaurs which are JHH episodes in their own right taking up the whole hour. To tell the truth, I thought there was more to Living with Dinosaurs from what I thought I remembered from when I watched it on Nickelodeon.

    BTW: Though Monster Maker is supposed to take place in England, the notes played to open up the Ultra-Gorgon's chamber are the first few notes of Stars & Stripes, the US national anthem.
    Well, if the above thoughts don't help convince you, what do you propose MuppetDude?
  6. illgaz

    illgaz New Member

    please help me... on your list you ahve the rubber band men (2737) and i am looking for a place to down load the skit they sang the "phen na ma nop doo doo doodoo" song can you help me??

    my kids dont believe me about the song it was hilarious any direction you could point me i would be appreciated

    thank you
  7. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Heh, another wayward soul. First off, welcome to MC Illgaz. Secondly, there seems to be some confusion in your request. The Rubber Band Men, to my knowledge, never sang back up for Mahna Mahna on his self-named song. The Snowths were the ones who sang back up for Mahna Mahna for the song "Mahna Mahna", found on the Juliette Prowst TMS episode. The Rubber Band Men appeared playing the instrumental accompanyment for Linda Carter when she sang the song "Rubber Band Men" on her own TMS episode. Both of these TMMS episodes can be found on differeent volumes of the Time-Life series of The Best of the Muppet Show DVD's.
    Hope this helps and have a good night.
  8. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK, getting back to the unfinished business at hand concerning JHH.

    Let's take Jedi_X's site as an example, since he's the one who's specialized himself on the subject of JHH.
    Say he wanted to mae a character list of all the Muppet characters that appeared throughout the whole of JHH. Leaving the SS 20th Anniversary special aside, he starts work with the remaining 12 episodes wanting his list to be 100% "both" Muppet-complete and JHH-complete.
    Well, there's the first problem.
    8 of the 12 episodes have Muppet half-hours as the first portion of the episodes themselves.
    2 more episodes, Dog City and Secrets of the Muppets, have characters that can and are added as Muppets.
    But Monster Maker and Living with Dinosaurs get completely ommitted.
    So the list isn't complete because the focus was on it being both Muppet-complete and JHH-complete at the same time.

    However, Jedi_X has actually included characters from the Song of the Cloud Forest in his list.
    And there's the second problem. By adding characters from the Song of the Cloud Forest, he's no longer limiting himself to the Muppet characters that appeared during the first half of the show. Any Muppet characters he's already gotten come from the first half titled Health & Fitness. So now the list starts to cross over into second half-hour territory.

    So, with the inclusion of only Song of the Cloud Forest, the focus has shifted to make this list 100% JHH-complete only.
    And there's the third problem. Because this list will not be 100% JHH-complete if it only lists:
    the Muppet characters from the Muppet half-hour portions of the 8 episodes with Muppet half-hour first half portions,
    Muppet characters from Dog City and Secrets of the Muppets, and
    Muppet characters from The Song of the Cloud Forest, which is the second half portion of one of the JHH episodes with a Muppet half-hour first half portion.
    No, in order to have a JHH-complete character list that's truly complete you need the characters from Lighthouse Island and the five Storyteller stories.
    So I trust this helps settle any confusion over including those segments to have a truly complete JHH-character list and entries added to the overall Muppet Listing.
    After all if not for the completeness factor, this list would be nowhere near the greatness it has achieved with help from readers like you.

    Hope this helps and have a good night.
  9. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Update. Changed Donnizetti to Ferlenghetti and he's now in the F's. Due to MuppetDude's explanation, the Dolphins have been changed to the Sea Creatures and the Orange Fish will remain as a separate entry. Added the characters from the SS game show TSF provided, and we're up to 3116. Will start work on adding the characters from JHH. Will probably have to rewatch the episodes to find some characters I still have doubts on, and will ask for descripts of characters already listed to make a good complete list to submit to Jedi_X so he can have the correct info on his site too.
    Hope to hear from you guys soon on the stuff from the Storyteller and have a good day.
  10. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    You've convinced me. Though the Storyteller can be made into another show on its own (and the DVD release was the entire collection, including JHH pieces), the argument of having a complete list of the show's characters won my vote.

    But what about the other Storyteller episodes? Would they be counted since the JHH Storyteller episodes even though they were aired as a separate series?
  11. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Originally posted by MuppetDude: "But what about the other Storyteller episodes? Would they be counted since the JHH Storyteller episodes even though they were aired as a separate series?"

    That's why I said that we should take it step-by-step. Let's take care of the stuff that was on JHH properly first. Then we'll move on to the Greek Myths, and then we might move into the TV series of the Storyteller.

    BTW: I'm currently in the process of adding the characters already asked about and making a character guide with those descripts. However, there are some characters I have questions about and then there's the characters already listed which I'd need descripts for. To that end, I'm watching the episodes over again and putting everything into little piles. Will post when I'm ready with the questions and requests.
    Hope this helps and have a good weekend.
  12. TotallySpiesFan

    TotallySpiesFan New Member

    Those of "The Storyteller":

    Hans My Hedgehog:

    Hans the Hedgehog
    Hans' Rooster
    Baby Hans

    A Story Short:

    Hare (or maybe it's a Rabbit)

    Fearnot:

    Pond Sprite

    The Luck Child:

    Griffin

    Sapsorrow:

    Squirrel
    Badger

    The Heartless Giant:

    The Giant
    Salmon
    Magpie
    Wolf

    The Soldier & Death:

    Devils
    Death

    The True Bride:

    The White Lion
    Troll & Trollop

    And those of "The Storyteller: Greek Myths"

    Perseus & The Gorgons:

    Medusa & other Gorgons

    Theseus & The Minotaur:

    The Minotaur

    Daedalus & Icarus:

    Vulture
  13. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    Uh, TSF... Are those all the "Muppet" characters from those stories?
    If so, I'd appreciate it if I could get descripts of the ones from The Heartless Giant, The Soldier and Death, The True Bride, and Sapsorrow.
    Also need the human cast for those respective stories.
    Noticed you're missing the Three Ravens from that group you posted.
    BTW: Medusa's sisters, the two immortal Gorgons, are named Euryale and Sthenno.
    BTW2: Still need an answer for whether the Squirrel and/or Badger from Sapsorrow can be considered Muppets in the sense that they were at least able to talk, if only by means of the Storyteller himself talking for them.
    Hope to hear from you guys soon, will post what I got so far.
  14. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK, finished watching the first six episodes of JHH, and here's what I still need help with.
    Questions.
    Science-Fiction:
    Pinkaboo (JHH, from Space Guy, Louie Anderson)
    It's not exactly a costume; Louie stuck his head through a hole in a wall, which was designed to look like the rabbit's body. His arms and legs were wire-controlled.
    So, given this description, should this character be added to the list?
    The War Bugs (JHH)
    Where did these characters appear, episode and/or sketchwise?
    Were they the ones in the reenactment of War and Peace from Science-Fiction?
    If so, please provide a descript of these characters.
    The War Bugs' War Correspondant (JHH, Chris Langham)
    Where did this character appear, episode and/or sketchwise?
    Did he appear in the reenactment of War and Peace from Science-Fiction?
    If so, please provide a descript of these character.
    Aquatic Life:
    Who was the female fish with a Mae West voice in the "Splish, Splash" musical number?
    She sang or spoke the lines: "He got out of his tub, he put his feet on the floor."
    The ManEater Shark: Appears towards the end of the Extremes' musical number.
    This is one of the generic grey Muppet sharks from TMS.
    So, given this description, should this character be added to the list?
    Monster Telethon:
    Should the entry for "The Story of the Hat-Sharpening King: The Storyteller" be eliminated?
    Should an entry for "The Story of the Hat-Sharpening King: The Subjects" be added?
    If so, please provide descripts of the Subjects.
    Dog City:
    The Dog Director, this is the character that cues the Stunt Cat for his scenes.
    There were three scenes involving the duo: the hammer, mattress, and steamroller scene.
    Still need help with a descript and whether it should be added to the list.
    The All Dog Network Announcer vs. Rover Cleveland
    Still confused as to why they're two different characters based on voices alone.
    Do you have anything in the credits to prove they're two different characters?
    Rusty the Dog's Date, need a descript of this character.
    She's the one who says that long hairs make Rusty cough, they'll just share a Diet Tabby.
    The Sweeping Dog, appeared when Ace Yu's arguing with Quackers.
    This scene takes place after Colleen's been dognapped by Bugsy Them's gang.
    The Dog that gives the Meaning of the Word "Lost"
    He appears during the car chase sequence, when Bugsy says he doesn't know the meaning of the word "lost".
    Who are these last two characters?
    If you can, provide descripts of them and whether they should be added to the list.
    The Ratings Game:
    The Nature Documentary, need help with descripts of the characters who appear in this sketch.
    Need help as to whether they should be added, and under what name they should be added.
    The Man standing outside the Phonebooth: Appeared when Piggy was calling Muppet Central.
    Need a descript, whether he should be added, and the actor's name.
    The Response-a-Matic TV Show.
    There's a segment towards the end of the Ratings Game half of the show where Waldo tries to prove that standard ratings are old hat. He fixed the computer to automatically change the TV show according to what the viewers want to watch, updated to the last second.
    1 This segment starts off with a Soap Opera mode, and there's an unknown female character.
    She says to Link: "Don't worry darling, I'm sure once your sister learns it wasn't you who sabotaged the brakes on your mother's wheelchair, I'm sure she'll return."
    Need help with a descript, if she should be added, and under what name she should be added.
    2 The segment then switches to a game show where Gonzo pops up as Fred Dorfman to challenge Link who's the new champion.
    3 The segment then switches into a police drama, where Link doesn't understand why he needs a gun to protect himself from enemy fire.
    4 The segment then switches to a Star Trek parody, where the next two characters are from.
    The Saturnian, says "You mean you don't understand why you've violated Federation territory?"
    The Crew Pig, says "Captain, the Saturnian has armed his raygun!"
    Need descripts, whether they should be added, and under what names they should be added.
    Monster Maker:
    The Slerks, need descripts and whether they should be added.

    Need descripts of all of the following, and the human cast of actors for each human role.
    The Storyteller: The Heartless Giant
    The Old King
    The Old Queen
    Prince Leo
    Prince Leo's Brother #1
    Prince Leo's Brother #2
    The Heartless Giant
    The Magpie
    The Salmon
    The Wolf

    Lighthouse Island
    Ebb Norman
    Is his name Eb, Ebb, Zeb, or Zebb?
    Rosalie
    Clara Buford
    Fred
    The Fortune Teller
    Carl Simms
    Sam
    Jack

    The Storyteller: The Soldier and Death
    The Soldier
    The Old Soldier
    The Card-Playing Beggar
    The Drumming Beggar
    The Fiddling Beggar
    The Soldier's Wife
    The Soldier's Son
    The Landlord
    The Devils
    Death
    Should the Czar be added?
    If so, please provide a descript along with the name of the actor who played him.

    Miss Piggy's Hollywood
    Lars, still need the name of the actor who played him.
    The Rodeo Drive Attendant, the man who was with George Wendt at the changing booths.
    The Rodeo Drive Saleswoman, who tends to Piggy when she wants to buy the dress.
    The Comedy Store Stand-Up Comedian, who proceeds Fozzie Bear.
    The Comedy Store Auditioner, who calls for the next person to do their act.

    Monster Maker
    Matthew Banting
    Alfie, Matthew's Dad
    Jan, Matthew's Mom
    Matthew's Teacher, this is the guy who reads a passage from Chaucer.
    Chancy Bello? Or is it Chancy Bellow?
    Chancy Bello's Secretary
    Ben
    Reggie, this was one of the two thieves who break into the warehouse.
    Niles, this is the other thief who breaks into the warehouse.

    Here's a list of characters already listed for which I need descripts.
    Science-Fiction:
    The Extremes: Blue, Orange, Purple, and Yellow Extreme.
    *Also appeared in Aquatic Life for Maneater musical number.
    Codzilla
    Marty the Earthling (Chris Langhem)
    Joe Beth Garf Toohoo
    Zsa Zsa Pork Mustard
    Fashion Dolls: Amanda, Bootsie, and Brad.
    *Appear in Episode 01, Science-Fiction; Episode 03, Monster Telethon.
    The Space Lobsters
    Lobster Debbie
    Timrek the Gorf
    Oznog
    Noel
    Tigid.
    Aquatic Life:
    The Orange Fish
    Merlin's Assistant
    *Also appeared in the Merlin the Magician MD sketch in Episode 07, Health & Fitness.
    Scurvy
    Jacques Roach
    *Also appeared in Episode 07, Health & Fitness; and Episode 12, Food.
    The Sheep
    The Sea Creatures.
    Monster Telethon:
    Rhonda
    The Nylons
    Monster Telethon: Host, Blue, Pink and Purple Monsters
    The Timecaster
    The Soap Opera: The Baby, The Husband, and The Wife
    The Story of the Hat-Sharpening King: The Customer
    The Story of the Hat-Sharpening King: The King
    The Story of the Hat-Sharpening King: The Stranger (Chris Langhem).
    Dog City:
    The All Dog Network Announcer
    Ace Yu
    Quackers, Ace Yu's toy duckie
    Bubba the Bartender
    Bugsy Them
    Miss Bell
    Scruffy
    Mad Dog
    Laughing Boy
    Mac the Dog Waiter
    Rusty
    Colleen Barker.
    The Ratings Game:
    The Graffiti Guys: Blue Guy, Purple Guy, Girl, and Dog.
    Anthony Rudd
    Fern Rudd
    Bruno, Anthony and Fern Rudd's pet tarantula
    Chip
    Ubu
    Zondra.
    Monster Maker:
    The Ultra-Gorgon.

    Will leave you guys with this to work on for now. Hope to hear from you guys ASAP so we can move on to the second half of JHH and finally wrap things up.
  15. TotallySpiesFan

    TotallySpiesFan New Member

    Actually the Green Frackle who looks like Boppity was known also as the host monster, the Dark Green Hunchback Frackle as the blue monster, and the Light Purple Monster as the Purple Monster.
  16. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK, finished watching the second six episodes of JHH, and here are some other doubts I have.

    Questions.
    Health & Fitness:
    The Story of the Talking Cabbage: The Talking Cabbage
    Is "Old Cabbage Head" rully his name or is that just an affecionate nickname?
    Given that the story's title is The Story of the Talking Cabbage, shouldn't the cabbage be refered to as "The Talking Cabbage"?
    Musicians:
    Flash's Groupies, still need a descript to add them to the list.
    Sergeant Killer Death Machine, still need the name of the human actor who played him.
    The Ghost Story's Hotel Owner, still need the name of the human actor who portrayed her.
    Garbage:
    The Little Girl appears towards the beginning when the Garbage Bags are at Muppet Central. Waldo says: "Demographics alert! Ratings crisis! Bad reaction from the pre-teen females." Kermit says: "What, little girls don't like garbage?" The Little Girl then shows up on a monitor and says: "Like garbage? Eew, yuck. Stinko garbage."
    Hope this helps you locate her in order for descript purposes and whether she should be added.
    The Fly, appears with the Garbage Bags at the beginning of the episode.
    Should this be added as a new entry? If so, please provide a descript.
    After the Story of the Colorless Birds, Kermit jumps back into Muppet Central and the Garbage Bags. There's one giving a speech, sounding like Winston Churchill.
    Should this one be added as a new entry, separate from the rest of the Garbage Bags?
    If so, please provide a descript of this character.
    The Female Human Mother, still need the name of the person who portrayed her.
    The Young Human Girl, still need the name of the person who portrayed her.
    The Harris Thompson and Sludge Waste Management Expert.
    Appears towards the end of the episode, need a descript to add him to the list.
    Food:
    The Average Consumer appears after the opening number, the Food Chain Song.
    Waldo says: Kermit, bad news from the world of ratings. Ever since the song stopped, we've been losing our ratings share!" Kermit says: "Well, you're the demographic expert. Uh, what do you suggest?" This woman then appears on screen and says: "Well, isn't there a show that would have more of an appeal to the average consumer?"
    Hope this helps you locate her in order for descript purposes and whether she should be added.
    There's this character that shows up during the bit when Sheldon lands at the farm. He says: "Mmm, I didn't know grocery boys could fly."
    Hope this helps you find it for descript purposes, and whether it should be added.
    The Cafe Teria's Rat Maitre D', need a descript and whether it should be added.
    Jacques Roach's Kitchen Assistants, need descripts and whether they should be added.
    *Both of these can be found in the Luncheon with Link sketch.
    The Vegetables, need a descript and whether they should be added.
    *They sing the first four songs during the Let's Eat album infomercial, including Gouda Loving and Would You Like a Sprout Alfie?
    The Singing Flowers, did these appear during the Food Chain Song?
    If so, need a descript and whether they should be added.
    There were some characters who showed up during both the Food Chain Song and the closing number I need help identifying. Please provide descripts and names for those that should be

    Need descripts of all of the following, and the human cast of actors for each human role.
    The Song of the Cloud Forest
    The Uprights, here's the descript of the Uprights who aren't either Jack or Louise.
    There were also the Imaginary Uprights: black scary-looking humanoid creatures that the animals viewed humans as. Where in the special did they show up?
    Were these Uprights present during the musical number "They're Out There Munchin' For Us"?
    Should they be listed as "The Imaginary Uprights"? Or as "The Uprights"?
    Nick, other than Nick the Anaconda was there any other character from JHH with this name?
    If so, please say in what episode and/or sketch he appeared.
    If so, please provide a descript and whether it should be added to the list.

    The Storyteller: The True Bride
    The Storyteller: The True Bride
    Anya, the True Bride
    Should Anya be listed as just that? Or should she be listed as "Anya, the True Bride"?
    The Gardener/Prince
    How should Anya's love interest be added to the list?
    As the Gardener? As the Gardener/Prince? As the Gardener Prince? Or as Anya's Beloved?
    The Troll
    The Trollip, the Troll's Daughter
    The Townsman
    The Townswoman
    There were a few "Prisoners" in the Trollip's castle who shouted out as to how Anya's cries could go unheard of. Should these be added to the list?
    If so, please provide descripts if possible, and the human actors' names.
    The White Lion from Jim's segments appears in the story with a talking voice. Therefore, he won't be added to the group from this story since he's already listed properly. However, there was a statue of him towards the end of the story named the Thought Lion. Should there be an entry added for this statue known as the Thought Lion? Or should it be left off the list?

    The Storyteller: Sapsorrow
    The King
    The Crier
    The King's Men
    Should the Crier be listed apart from or with the King's Men?
    Sapsorrow
    Sapsorrow's Bad Sister #1
    Sapsorrow's Bad Sister #2
    Straggletag, Sapsorrow's alternate identity when working for the Prince.
    Should a separate entry for Straggletag be added or not?
    The Prince
    The Palace Kitchen Workers
    There were at least three people in this group.
    A woman, who could be the cook; a young adult man, appears when Straggletag's washing the dishes before the third dance; and a young boy, probably a servant.

    Living with Dinosaurs
    Dominick "Dom" Marshall
    Lee, Dom's Father
    Vicki, Dom's Mother
    Adrian, Dom's Uncle
    Victor, Dom's Cousin
    Dom's School Teacher
    Keith
    Dog or Doug the Dinosaur

    The Storyteller: The Three Ravens
    The King
    The Witch
    The Silent Princess
    Is this an appropriate denomination to include her in the list?
    Prince #1
    Prince #2
    Prince #3
    The Three Ravens
    The Young Prince
    Is this an appropriate denomination to include him in the list?
    The Young Prince's Father
    To differentiate from the first main King, should he be added to the list like this?
    The Three Baby Princes


    Requests for Character Descripts.
    Garbage:
    The Garbage Bags
    Food:
    The Screaming No-Nos.

    Also need descripts of Beard, Flash, and the Female Drummer from Solid Foam.
    Please post here if you guys can help finish off everything to complete the JHH additions to the master list. Thanks, and hope to hear from you guys soon.
  17. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    Science-Fiction:
    Pinkaboo (JHH, from Space Guy, Louie Anderson)
    It's not exactly a costume; Louie stuck his head through a hole in a wall, which was designed to look like the rabbit's body. His arms and legs were wire-controlled.

    So, given this description, should this character be added to the list?
    I think so, since he becomes another character during the sketch.

    The War Bugs (JHH)
    Where did these characters appear, episode and/or sketchwise?

    In "The Ratings Game" episode. They are "attacked" by a butterfly with a machine gun, and fire back. They are three chubby hand puppet worms (yellow, green, and orange) with beady eyes, and wearing army helmets.

    Were they the ones in the reenactment of War and Peace from Science-Fiction?

    No. The ones from the Science-Fiction episode were a group of Whatnots dressed as French, Russian, and German soldiers.

    The War Bugs' War Correspondant (JHH, Chris Langham)
    Where did this character appear, episode and/or sketchwise?
    He appeared with the War Bugs (and eventually steps on them). I believe he wore a blue shirt, khaki shorts, and boots.

    Did he appear in the reenactment of War and Peace from Science-Fiction?
    No.

    Aquatic Life:
    Who was the female fish with a Mae West voice in the "Splish, Splash" musical number?
    She sang or spoke the lines: "He got out of his tub, he put his feet on the floor."

    That was a clam with eyes inside her shell. She could be counted as one of the "Sea Creatures".

    The ManEater Shark: Appears towards the end of the Extremes' musical number.
    This is one of the generic grey Muppet sharks from TMS.
    So, given this description, should this character be added to the list?

    I'd add him since his gimmick is a "Man-Eater"; he begins to chomp the male members of the Extremes.

    Monster Telethon:
    Should the entry for "The Story of the Hat-Sharpening King: The Storyteller" be eliminated?
    I'm not sure; he's never seen.

    Should an entry for "The Story of the Hat-Sharpening King: The Subjects" be added?
    I guess so; they're a bunch of spare monsters, creatures, and animals dressed in medieval clothing.

    Dog City:
    The Dog Director, this is the character that cues the Stunt Cat for his scenes.
    He's never seen.

    There were three scenes involving the duo: the hammer, mattress, and steamroller scene.
    Still need help with a descript and whether it should be added to the list.


    One was a yellowish dog with saggy jowls, a black nose, and dark eyes. The other one was Mad Dog. Both were in casual clothing.

    The All Dog Network Announcer vs. Rover Cleveland
    Still confused as to why they're two different characters based on voices alone.
    Do you have anything in the credits to prove they're two different characters?


    No, but the Dog Announcer says that they've obtained footage (referring to other members of the crew) of the making of the movie, then go to the clip. Since Jerry Nelson was performing one of the dogs in the clip, then he could have done the Dog Announcer's voice as well for the same taping, but it seems that they decided to go with another performer.

    Rusty the Dog's Date
    A chow dog in a pink dress.

    The Sweeping Dog
    It's Mack the Dog Waiter, performed for some reason by Rickey Boyd.

    This scene takes place after Colleen's been dognapped by Bugsy Them's gang.
    The Dog that gives the Meaning of the Word "Lost"
    He appears during the car chase sequence, when Bugsy says he doesn't know the meaning of the word "lost".

    The dog who defines "Lost" is (surprisingly) Mad Dog!

    The Ratings Game:
    The Nature Documentary, need help with descripts of the characters who appear in this sketch.
    Need help as to whether they should be added, and under what name they should be added.

    I've already answered those.

    The Man standing outside the Phonebooth: Appeared when Piggy was calling Muppet Central.
    Need a descript, whether he should be added, and the actor's name.
    He was Dan Redican dressed in what looks like "bum clothes". He could be added as "The Bum".

    The Response-a-Matic TV Show.
    There's a segment towards the end of the Ratings Game half of the show where Waldo tries to prove that standard ratings are old hat. He fixed the computer to automatically change the TV show according to what the viewers want to watch, updated to the last second.
    1 This segment starts off with a Soap Opera mode, and there's an unknown female character.
    She says to Link: "Don't worry darling, I'm sure once your sister learns it wasn't you who sabotaged the brakes on your mother's wheelchair, I'm sure she'll return."
    Need help with a descript, if she should be added, and under what name she should be added.

    She's a female Whatnot with curly hair. She probably shouldn't be added. (But then again, she could be called "Link's Soap Opera Wife".)

    4 The segment then switches to a Star Trek parody, where the next two characters are from.
    The Saturnian, says "You mean you don't understand why you've violated Federation territory?"
    The Crew Pig, says "Captain, the Saturnian has armed his raygun!"

    The Saturnian (not sure where you got that name) is a humanoid Whatnot with reddish-brown hair. He wore a sort of marroon Star Trek outfit.
    The other is an off-white big-nosed Whatnot with sleepy eyes and brown hair.

    Monster Maker:
    The Slerks, need descripts and whether they should be added.
    They probably shouldn't be added; they're more like props for the movie.


    Miss Piggy's Hollywood
    Lars, still need the name of the actor who played him.
    I don't know the name.

    The Rodeo Drive Attendant, the man who was with George Wendt at the changing booths.
    I don't know the name. He's a balding man with blackish-grey hair and moustache.

    The Rodeo Drive Saleswoman, who tends to Piggy when she wants to buy the dress.
    I don't know the name. I think she was a red-headed woman in a blue dress.

    The Comedy Store Stand-Up Comedian, who proceeds Fozzie Bear.
    A human, played by Dave Goelz.

    The Comedy Store Auditioner, who calls for the next person to do their act.
    I don't know who played him. It could've been Jim Lewis.

    I will try and give you more descriptions in the future.
  18. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    OK pal, just post 'em whenever you're ready. Frankly, I'm surprised to see you posting here today. Thought you wouldn't have access till tomorrow.
    Well, thanks for the help so far. Keep in touch and post as soon as you're ready.
    Anything else would be senseless.
  19. The Count

    The Count Moderator Staff Member

    BTW: Before I forget... The reason why I called the guy who shouts at Link the Saturnian is cause the crew member who speaks after him says that the Saturnians have armed their ray guns.
    The guy I'm thinking of as a Saturnian sounded like Kevin Clash, using his Goriddle Gorilla voice which he used oftenly in JHH.
    Might be this isn't a Saturnian after all. If not, how would you advise to add the two characters during this Star Trek parody from The Ratings Game?
  20. MuppetDude

    MuppetDude Active Member

    Here's some descriptions:

    The Extremes
    Four cartoon-like characters with big hands, long arms, and Fraggle-like legs and feet. All four are wearing what looks like fuchsia tuxes.

    The Purple Extreme is lavendar, with a flat head, a very big (and detailed) mouth, teeth, bulging eyes, and what looks like silver rocks on her head, plus several silver antennae.

    The Yellow Extreme has a smaller mouth than the P.E., and a slightly slimmer head, and has an upper row of teeth, vertically-oval glasses (fuchsia, with the eyes in them), and spiky gray hair.

    The Orange Extreme has a turned-down shout, baggy bulgy eyes, frizzy orange hair, and teeth on both jaws.

    The Blue Extreme is the chubbiest of the group, with a double-chin, bulgy eyes, upper/lower teeth, and two horn-like projections with blue fur at the end of each.

    Codzilla
    Looks a bit like a lime green Godzilla, but his head looks like a fish's, with big lips, menacing yellow eyes, and a fin at the top. His body looks like a green, scaly Grover, with muscular arms, and a yellowish belly. He also has a tail.

    Marty the Earthling (Chris Langham)
    Chris is wearing a grayish-silver tux with long black lapels that reach to the navel. He also wears a marroon cummerbund.

    Joe Beth GarfToohoo
    A fuzzy brown creature in a bikini and tiara. She has an oval-shaped head, fuzzy feathers on her head and shoulders. Her eyes are round and baggy, with yellow eyes and slanted pupils. She has a huge mouth with orange lips, and several teeth (with two lower fangs), and a tongue that hangs out.

    Zsa Zsa Porkmustard
    A bunch of brown pieces of foam put together, with beady eyes and pink lips. She has several tinsel-like pieces on her.

    Amanda
    A blond girl.

    Bootsie
    She has blond hair (very much like Barbie's), and her eyes somewhat "bug out". She has an obvious overbite.

    Brad
    He has sculpted brown hair, a visible overbite, and wears a sweater.

    The Space Lobsters
    Basically a group of lobsters (like the Lobster Banditos).

    Lobster Debbie
    A lobster with red hair and (I think) earrings.

    Timrek the Gorf, Oznog, Noel, Tigid
    All of the Teppums look like their counterparts, but are wearing vaudevillian outfits, with Christmas bows on their straw hats.

    The Orange Fish
    Basically an orange fish, with stripes, and flat, hemispherical eyes.

    Merlin's Assistant
    A peach, pointy-nosed Whatnot with long, curly hair, and dressed as a damsel.

    Scurvy
    Gonzo dressed as a pirate, with a tri-corner hat and red/black striped shirt.

    Jacques Roach
    Has sleepy, baggy, hemispherical yellow eyes, long antenna, dirty chef's hat, neckerchief, apron, a cigarrette in his mouth, and a thin moustache and beard. (When he appears on JHAS as Yves, his cigarette and facial hair are removed.)

    The Sheep
    A white sheep with eyelids.

    The Sea Creatures
    Muppet clams, octopuses, fish, etc.

    Rhonda
    A peach Whatnot with curly blond hair, black/gold striped dress, necklace, sleepy teal eyelids, roundish small nose, and big red lips.

    The Nylons
    Shouldn't be counted. They are guest stars:
    http://www.thenylons.com/default.asp

    Monster Telethon: Host, Blue, Pink and Purple Monsters
    I believe that all of them have appeared on TMS:

    Monsterthon Host--a green version of Boppity, with a yellow-orange snout. His eyebrows are slightly "angrier" than Boppity's.

    Blue Monster--alias "Dark Green Hunchback Frackle". He's a dark blue-green Frackle, and has a beak, six fangs, black eyebrows, and a muscular build.

    Purple Monster--I refer to him as the "Elderly Frackle". He has a furry purple body, and brown three-fingered claws. His brown head is shaped like Boppity's, without the ears and fur. He has a pink mouth w/red tongue, black/white eyebrows, and thinning gray hair.

    The Timecaster
    A blue vertically-oval headed Whatnot with brown hair, a loud plaid suit, pink eyelids, and a pointy nose.

    The Soap Opera: The Baby, The Husband, and The Wife

    The Husband--a tall-headed tan Whatnot with yellowish hair, eyebrows, and moustache (no eyes). He has a long slim nose, and a brown suit.

    The Wife--a purplish-pink Whatnot with curly white hair, a "drawbridge" mouth with small red lips, pink nose, earrings, and very sleepy eyelids. She wears a yellowish gown with a red sweater.

    The Baby--wears a white bonnet, blue shirt, and white bib.

    The Story of the Hat-Sharpening King: The Customer
    Probably shouldn't be counted; she has a very small part in the script, and she's the "Ted" Muppet with a princess's hat. She could be counted with the rest of the villagers.

    The Story of the Hat-Sharpening King: The King
    A chubby green creature with pink horn-like things on his head. His eyes look like two fat worms with the white part and pupils showing. His bottom jaw is large, and is yellow with many wrinkles. He also has two bottom fangs. He has a big white moustache and a tuft of hair at the top of his head. In the story, he wore a red vest and white shirt.

    The Story of the Hat-Sharpening King: The Stranger (Chris Langham)
    He's dressed as a German soldier.

    The All Dog Network Announcer
    A yellow dog with a large snout and black/blue nose. He has baggy eyes, white hair, glasses, and a few lower teeth. He wore a brown suit.

    Ace Yu
    A brown dog with pointy ears, and angry eyes. He usually wears a red cap (not sure what kind I could call it), and gray suit. Under his hat he wears a pink bow.

    Quackers, Ace Yu's toy duckie
    A yellow duck in a sailor's suit.

    Bubba the Bartender
    The Irish Wolfhound puppet with some brown spots, taxidermist eyes, and dressed in a white shirt and black vest. He also has a few small teeth.

    Bugsy Them
    A white(mainly), brown, and black bulldog chewing a cigar, and wearing a black hat and brown/black pinstripe suit.

    Miss Belle
    A lavendar poodle with a pillbox hat. I don't remember what exactly her clothes looked like.

    Scruffy
    A dark grey dog with a fuzzy muzzle, wearing a black hat and grey/black pinstripe suit.

    Mad Dog
    A brown dog with a baggy face and muzzle, with a light brown nose. He has a tongue that slightly sticks out, and wearing a brown suit and black hat.

    Laughing Boy
    A foxhound wearing a black hat and pinstripe suit.

    Mac the Dog Waiter
    A white terrier with black spots, wearing a white shirt/black vest.

    Rusty
    A brown dog with glasses.

    Colleen Barker
    A collie with a pink pillbox hat and dress. (I think; I'm not sure)

    The Graffiti Guys: Blue Guy, Purple Guy, Girl, and Dog

    Pink Guy--very thin; very "foam-looking", with a large overbite, blue triangular sunglasses, and four pink spikes on his head.

    Blue Guy--has a big chin, wide eyes, and a triangular body. I can't remember him well.

    Green Girl--has no eyes, (?)-colored pigtails, and a red/yellow zigzag body.

    Orange Dog--has a zigzag-shaped muzzle (near the mouth), red nose, and jagged ears. He has no legs, but he does have feet.

    Anthony Rudd
    Looks sort of like a cockroach, but with the face similar to an onion. He wore a grey/brown suit, glasses, and small eyes, and curled antenna.

    Fern Rudd
    Looks like "the Creature from the Black Lagoon", with what looks like circular holes in the top of her head, exposing a "brain". She has a rim of green feathers around the back and sides of her head. She has large yellow eyes, sleepy pink eyelids, and large pink lips.

    Bruno, Anthony and Fern Rudd's pet tarantula
    Looks like the TMS tarantula, but the performer's head is the performer's head. It looks like the legs are stilts. Also, he has angry yellow eyes.

    Chip
    An oval-headed peach whatnot with a patch of brown curly hear at the top of his head. He wears a checkered jacket, red glasses, and has lidless eyes (with pupils that blink). He has an upper row of teeth.
    (NOTE: He is also known as Lester Z'Dwango on MT.)

    Ubu
    An orange creature with a gorilla-like face, moving brows, lots of feathery blue hair, with some in a pigtail (at the top of his head). He wore a colorful shirt and vest.

    Zondra
    Has peach skin, oval head, fuzzy black hair, black eyelids, slender nose, and is very skinny. He wears a black dress, her hands and arms look as if they're wrapped in black tape. She has pins for earrings.

    The Ultra-Gorgon
    A very, VERY large half-made creature. He has wings, and his head is a purplish-brown color, with a turned-down snout. I think he had gills.

    I'll tell you more later. I've gotta rest my wrists!


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