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Muppets to appear in Disney Channel TV special

Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by jacobsnchz, Jun 29, 2008.

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  1. Mokey's sweet

    Mokey's sweet Well-Known Member

    hi, look i'm really excited about this come back, but i live in the UK, does anyone know if this special is going 2 be broadcast on the UK Disney Channel? is so when? :) thanx
  2. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Uh... cuz kids are stupid and they love the here and now crap that will be forgotten in 3 years. Once all these kids hit puberty, the ones that can't pull off pretending to be teens (like the HSM bunch) will get their walking papers, and will wind up as extras in an Olvie Garden commercial. I doubt any of these kids will be the next LeBeuf, who became a big star when his show was cancelled. Dude was in Indiana Jones. How can any of these kids compete?

    What are we going to remember 10 years down the rode? Kermit the frog? or what's the twins's names?
  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but that's the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. What would you rather be? Mindlessly famous for 2 years, or well remembered and famous for decades? Maybe you should tell this to MC Hammer or Vanilla Ice. They were popular. So wasn't Milli Vanilli... they were even immortalized in an episode of Mario. But today? Just sad cultural references.
  4. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    The Muppets are, and have always been, extremely "hip." I think they're as relevant today as they were when they were at their peak! Not throwbacks to another generation, but something to be passed down through the generations. Mickey Mouse is hardly considered a "throwback," and neither should Kermit the Frog.

    I've quoted this before, but I'll quote it again. "Hip isn't what you do, it's how you do it." That's what Coolio, someone that many would consider to be a "hip" person, said about the Muppets.

    I do believe this special is a good thing, though I'm afraid I disagree with you as to why that's so.

    And, boy, am I sick of the word "hip" now! It's time for a replacement of that word... Get it? A "hip" replacement? Wah-ha ha!
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    AWwww forget this guy. If he doesn't like puppets so much, why the frig does he even post here.

  6. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Agreed! And even though I love puppetry I see the Muppets as characters, personalities not puppets. I just don't usually think of them that way.
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It's not that he doesn't have a couple good points... and only a couple, mind you... but we have to realize one thing. What's hip now and new isn't going to be around forever. Zach and Cody's career will deteriorate faster than a Fozzie Puppet.

    I can't stand how everyone has to do something because it's the latest thing. It WAS the latest thing, now since everyone's doing it, it's the only thing. And that's why everything sucks now. no variety. nothing's different, and everything looks the same.

    Maybe a couple old "relics" should be dusted off. If anything, they'll stand out in a see of movies where flies go to the moon, monkeys go to the moon, and various wisecracking B-list celebrity voiced random animals go to the moon.
  8. Frogpuppeteer

    Frogpuppeteer Well-Known Member

    this may have already been answered but i havent found it

    watching the commercials im confused is it a disney channel special feturing the muppets or a muppets special featuring the disney channel "stars"....im seeing the second because every clip so far has had the muppets in it.....WHICH IS AWESOME
  9. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    I think it's intended as both. Pretty much equal for both parties.

    I like that they're returning to the variety show format. That's a pretty much extinct form of television. And one that I like. The Muppet Show and The Carol Burnett Show were probably the last of the variety show, and it's neat to see the Muppets returning to that.
  10. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Agreed, its just what kids are either used to or even remotely want nowdays - they'll certainly never be main Disney tween stars. They just aren't as relevant today as they once were, neither is Mickey Mouse, Fraggle Rock, Winnie The Pooh, My Little Pony, Smurfs etc. Some of those things can be redeveloped for the easier pre-school market (which thankfully doesn't really work with Muppets because they cant change the characters and the wit is a bit too sharp) or put out as one off films, or marketed the heck out of for a quick hit but they will never be the same. The only one thats been successful really are action hero type things and Transformers that they turned into an action movie. I think there is a chance the Muppets can be made a little more attractive to kids and also they can re-build up the family audience and do seasonal movies and TV shows that will get reasonable figures if promoted enough, but yes, i doubt even Disney think they will set the world on fire - they didnt even buy them for that. They just bought them for the distribution and licensing. So all that said, they're doing pretty well what with over a million people viewing a Beaker Youtube video.

    As for Studio DC. I do think they are quite lucky to have been given the special (infact, a series of specials) and have these kid stars desperately trying to put them over - but the format just doesn't sit comfortable for them, it all looks awkward and the script especially seems a bit wooden ... at least from what we've seen. Maybe just doing a special one off TMS could have worked better and have been hyped as a classic thing but then kids don't know who they are, and it'd probably still seem out of place. I tend to think the only thing that could catch on is a sketch show on their own that was very well written and possibly get families to go see the movie (if there was a Disney teen in a supporting role). I always thought Americas Next Muppet on ABC was their best chance and they blew it, the format would have got people and the press's attention and if it was funny enough they might have got into it, stayed watching, voted.
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I agree with everything you said, except Pooh. There's always a way to milk Pooh for all he's worth in tons of crappy merchandise, and the occassion actually good Pooh based movie or Tv special.

    While a lot of kids today have no respect for anything that much older than they are, there are a few that actually like some of the retro/relaunches out there. TMNT has been moderately successful. And look how Spider-man is doing. 3 movies and a new cartoon series. And what about Scooby Doo? Dude never even left television that long. And kids still love the show, even the old ones.

    But the problem is a lot of character relaunches we've had are pathetic or too market driven. look at the crap the looney Tunes had to go through. Cheap Muppet Babies knockoff or cheap jackie Chan Adventures Knockoff. They now have decided to give Marvin the Martian his own movie, and that's not the best relaunch they could do.
  12. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Oooh! When did this happen? That could actually be a good idea. Marvin is a classic Chuck Jones creation that seems to have been lost among the others on basketball t-shirt marketing. It could be done right or it could be done very wrong. I'll keep high hopes. :flirt:
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I'll post the link somewhere else... the point is, the Muppets don't have it half as bad as the Looney Tunes did after BIA tanked....
  14. Super Scooter

    Super Scooter Well-Known Member

    Which is a shame considering Back in Action is so very good (at least in comparison to Space Jam)... just a little too much "human" stuff for my taste. Just stick to Bugs and Daffy and the toons next time.

    ... anyway, back to Muppets...
  15. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    Pooh they had to dumb down and make a lot more pre-schooley, and it was an easy hit for them as its the one they was most adaptable for that. TMNT, Spider, Hulk were all action stuff - boys will get into things just because they look cool a lot more than girls who are probably more loyal to their HSM's and Hannah.

    Scooby is a wierd one. They've made sure it never went away totally (like Muppets) but then its had the marketing and promotional power of WB behind it wheras Muppets didn't. It also hasn't really aged that much - wheras most other cartoons from our time have. Really over the years they could have kept a lot of the old characters alive even as shorts between TV shows or before movies but money has been quite tight in television and once the characters have gone away you can't really bring them back without doing something to establish who they actually are to the kids. Then they bring things back tens of years later for some one off special or movie and say it didn't do well because only us 20 somethings watched it and the kids weren't interested.
  16. SgtGonzoPepper

    SgtGonzoPepper Well-Known Member

    Dang, some of you guys are going OFF! Lets all jump aboard the Mayhem Bus of brother/sisterhood.
    Anyhew... I found this on Youtube. It's a new interview with Kermit and Piggy:

  17. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Oooh! And they got the Muppets.com plug in there at the end. Kermit's a great showfrog and promoter! The pig was funny too. Something about the puppets looked a little off to me, but I can't complain. Is this the Puppet Heap company deal with the building? I somehow wish they'd get the now-defunct Creature Shop people in to build these guys like we're used to. But loved the hair!
  18. Barry Lee

    Barry Lee Well-Known Member

  19. pattywack

    pattywack Well-Known Member

    OMG! I'm sooo excited for this! This looks so cool! I don't remember being this happy about the muppets in so long, they're finally back! I've missed them!

    Does anyone know if this will air on Disney Channel in Australia as well and when? :D
  20. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour Well-Known Member

    I agree with you on everything Frobut it's funny for once Kermit looks ok even if his still coming off as a bit dry in the acting department, the pigs funny as heck as usual lately.

    But yeah piggy recently is looking odd but I do like the hair.
    I'm happy that tey plugged the site at the end, what a cute video.

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