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New Muppet movie in development for potential 2013 release

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Phillip, Apr 13, 2012.

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  1. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    There is no completion timeline or release date, folks. There has just been conjecture from the writers about what Disney prefers and wild assumptions from MC forum members.

    1. What would you like to see as the plot in the new Muppet "comedy caper" type film? The plot really is just a device for Muppet madness so it really doesn't matter much to me. However, I would like to see more bits about the Muppets' lives inside and outside of the theater in a way we haven't experienced before. I'd love to see how they fit in with the neighbors. LOL! But that's really all anecdotal. Not really a movie plot point.
    2. What characters would you like to see have the leading roles? I'd like to see less of the Kermit & Miss Piggy relationship dynamic of the last film because it's always present anyway and they already recently and wonderfully explored that. I'd like to see more Gonzo, Scooter, Rowlf, Rizzo and Pepe.
    3. Do you want a Muppet villain (like in Muppets From Space, Letters to Santa and The Muppets) and if so who, or would you prefer the villain to be just a human role for one or more characters? I think a human villain with a Muppet henchman is the proven way to go. Charles Grodin would be great, but unlikely. His complaint about the last film offer was that the small cameo wasn't worth the trip. Maybe a juicier role would grab his attention.
    4. Whether they were in The Muppets or not, what five minor characters do you hope have a bigger role in the new movie? Johnny, Sal, Robin, Bean and Clueless Morgan. What ever happened to Seymour? I'd like to see more Seymour! Wocka Wocka! Van Neuter would be nice too.
    5. What style of music would you like for the new film? Are there any characters that you hope have a song in the new movie? Whatever the music style, I'd like to see the Muppets perform the numbers instead of human cast and backup dancers. Go for the dazzling and spectacular numbers like "Couldn't We Ride", "The First Time It Happens" , "Hey a Movie", "The Magic Store" "Together Again" or Miss Piggy's water ballet from GMC. I can't think of a better company than Disney to produce a Muppet musical number. Come on, go for it! And more Electric Mayhem, please. Their lack of musical presence in TM was an absurdity in an otherwise fine film.
    Just my thoughts. I think they should really go for the gusto in this new movie. Lavish musical numbers in a film that hits more exciting tones than the somber ones of the last film. Those things have been dealt with. The Muppets are back and back together again so the conflict should arise elsewhere.
  2. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    I really like that idea as something for the next movie to include. I think an underrated part of the Muppet humor is how they interact with "regular people" in the "real world". It doesn't have to be the focus of the movie, but I'd like to see some Muppet boarding house settings in the next movie.
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  3. Avilos

    Avilos Well-Known Member

    I am going to be a wise ***...

    It should start with Walter reading internet info about the new movie. He would worry about every little thing he sees. In fact maybe he should interrupt the plot and appear on screen anytime he does not like something to explain mistakes. ;)

    Serious ideas...(actually I think Walter as a fanboy critic could really work in small doses)

    Characters - I would like to see more of Rowlf, Rizzo, and Pepe

    I think a road trip, travelogue would be fun. It could be a "Muppets on Tour" type of thing. Almost with elements of The Beatles' A Hard Days Night and This is Spinal Tap. That would be the frame work but a lot could happen within it. Different locations, states and countries. New small characters and cameos. With a subplot of someone following them or something.
  4. zoebell

    zoebell Well-Known Member

    that's an interesting idea. muppets on tour- that might be kinda cool

    i have to disagree on the kermit/piggy thing- i think that relationship is absolutely essential to the series. i kinda think the way they got away from that a bit in the 90s contributed some to their fade in popularity, even. so i really think that needs to stay (that was a significant point of every single movie in the original trilogy, remember)

    i like the idea of a female villain. or maybe no villain, i liked how MTM managed to not have one at all and still be good
  5. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I'm gonna disagree as well because Kermit/Piggy's dynamic is a lot of what keeps the muppets going I don't care whether people agree or not even critics have said that their relationship is an essential part of the muppets success. Jason Segal even said the one thing he wanted to do in bringing back the muppets was to bring Kermit and Piggy back together. I want to see more of that developed in the next movie. But I don't want it to be silly. I want their relationship to be a little more mature.
  6. Avilos

    Avilos Well-Known Member

    I would agree with no villain as well. The Muppets are not Superheroes... And before anyone suggests that idea... NO WAY! Not every story needs a "good guy" vs "bad guy". Conflict and challenges exist in other ways.

    Kermit and Piggy's relationship is probably the most famous aspect of the Muppets. Even during the years it was downplayed in the actual productions, Kermit and Piggy were always asked about the other in solo tv appearances. By interviewers who were likely just vaguely familiar with the Muppets. Their relationship needs to be present.

    What would they be called in "brangelina" speak? They predate all these current famous Hollywood couples!!!

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  7. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Trust me I could make a whole entire thread just on Kermit/Piggy interviews that they've done since before/after the movie came out. Steve and Eric have def taken the relationship into a more concrete level IMO. Steve I think was tired of down playing the whole are they together are they not. Kermit has said in every single interview since the movie came out that they're indeed in a relationship which to me is a great new fresh start. And gives us what most of us wanted to hear from Kermit that they're dating. And this time its been consistent. I think this is the new route they're gonna take from now on. Even Jim and Frank said at one time the attraction and the dynamic of Kermit/Piggy is part of the essence of the muppets.
  8. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    If I could like this 20 times I would. LOL!
  9. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    I like Avilos idea. Muppets on the Road kinda thing would be a lot of fun. Enough to get me to buy a ticket right now for it
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  10. jvcarroll

    jvcarroll Well-Known Member

    You are exactly right. :) Other than Muppets From Space, Kermit and Piggy's relationship always has been, always will be and always should be a part of the Muppets. It just don't think it needs to be the main thing in this or every project. I'd like to see the ensemble cast take precedence over the pig and frog love story. Again, it's always there anyway and it certainly won't be ignored. It was covered so poignantly in the last film and I'd kind of like to see that settle before they make it a particular focal point again. It's the Muppet Show, not the Kermit & Piggy Show. That's all I'm sayin'. ;)
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  11. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Agree to disagree on this one. LOL!
  12. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    I agree, I hope Disney is reading this.

    YOU HEAR THAT DISNEY? We don't want the whole movie to focus on Kermit & Piggy!
    I hope they don't stick with the story 100%. I just can't see a caper. I dunno, like Oscarfan said, I'm judging it way too fast. But it's kinda weird becuase "The Muppets" is a "better version of It's A Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie and then the next movie will be a better version of The Great Muppet Caper. I really don't know. Maybe becuase the reason is, is becuase I'm not the biggest fan of GMC. I mean it's not my favorite movie, so hearing that a similar movie is coming out.

    Anyway, I'm not too worried at the moment, at the begginning "The Muppets" was The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made and The Greatest Muppet Movie Ever Made before being changed to "The Muppets". So we'll just have to wait.
  13. zoebell

    zoebell Well-Known Member

    well, it's never been the whole plot for any movie, but it has always been a very significant part of every movie, and that should continue to be. it's the underlying heart, and when they get away from that, like they did in the later films, the series tends to suffer. imo.
  14. ScooterLover

    ScooterLover Member

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  15. Cindy

    Cindy Moderator Staff Member

    I actually love this idea! Fade in - Walter sitting at a computer with Muppet Central as his homepage. Zoom in on him furiously typing his response to the "New Muppet Movie in Development..." thread. Then he calls Gary who is on his honeymoon and shares the latest Muppet news.
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  16. rowlfy662

    rowlfy662 Well-Known Member

    i'm really excited for this movie and if nick stoller is writing it hopefully it will be as great as the muppets a road trip film is a good concept but the muppet movie was kind of like their road trip to hollywood. But i really hope for this new movie rizzo gets a bit more screen time as he was a main character but hopefully if the second is well recieved it could mean that there are even more muppet movies in the future.
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  17. Jrogers51375

    Jrogers51375 Member

    1. What would you like to see as the plot in the new Muppet "comedy caper" type film?

    The Plot should revolve around the new found fame the Muppets are experiencing from the previous movie. The Electric Mayhem has become worldwide famous over night and start thinking each one of them is more famous than the other members which causes tension in the band. I would really like to see Kathy Griffin as a band groupie that follows the band like the Grateful Dead and she has a wild crazy daughter played by Jennifer Stone from Wizards of Waverly Place wearing crazy Muppet themed outfits. I would love to revisit Kathy’s obsession with Animal.

    Miss Piggy who is desperately trying to look younger and become skinnier to fit her view of herself jumps on the reality tv circuit. Shows like Biggest Loser, Celebrity rehab “for her donut obsession” Project Runway . I would love to see a bit with Bunson as a clinical psychologist who refers to Beaker as one of his success stories.

    Gonzo is trying to do more dangerous and crazier stunts to keep his fans happy. I could see him going the magic route with a cameo of Chis Angel. Camilla is sitting at home laying eggs and knitting sweaters out of worry for Gonzo’s safety. Rizzo dealing with his jealousy of Camilla.
    Pigs in Space could become the next new Star Trek and could play off Link being this macho womanizing swine of a pig. I could see Shatner or Tim Allen supporting his macho attitude.
    Kermit and Fozzie after becoming tired of nonstop celebrity appearances and realizing what fame is doing to them, go out to find the other Muppets out of concern to see how they are handling their new found fame.

    2. What characters would you like to see have the leading roles?

    I would like to see Gonzo, The Electric Mayhem, Link Heart Throb, Kermit and Fozzi, and Miss Piggy.

    3.Do you want a Muppet villain (like in Muppets From Space, Letters to Santa and The Muppets) and if so who, or would you prefer the villain to be just a human role for one or more characters?

    The villain is the Fame and how it has affected the main leading Muppets.

    4. Whether they were in The Muppets or not, what five minor characters do you hope have a bigger role in the new movie?

    Camilla, Rizo, Beeker, Honeydoo, and Scooter

    5. What style of music would you like for the new film? Are there any characters that you hope have a song in the new movie?

    I would like to see new original songs performed by the lead Muppet roles. Love songs, bro songs, feel good songs, I don’t care about the genre but it needs to appeal to all ages of the audience.
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  18. muppetmommy

    muppetmommy Member

    I love the idea of a caper. I loved the GMC. I wish people would stop referencing MFS, though, it was a horrid, horrid, horrid production and is why we long time Muppetfans have been so scared about new ventures.

    Well, that and that absolute debacle call "Almost live" or something like that. Remember those shows? They were hosted by some Disneyteen and the Muppets critiqued from backstage. What a waste of felt!

    It would be nice to have Frank Oz back, but they have to actually use his wisdom and not put in Whoopie cushion shoes or anything of the sort. That really took away from the dignity of the rest of the movie.

    As for "Kermiggy" (Avlios, you should be sent to the Island of Perpetual Tickling for coming up with that one.) if one would go back and watch everything very closely, Piggy has the relationship with Kermit. It's not reciprocated. He sees her as a very good friend. I like how TM addressed it and how it was left. I actually liked Piggy in that one, by the end.

    The Mayhem definitely needs more screen time, and the Chef. What kind of Caper, I couldn't say. A villan, yes. A western, maybe? Then we can have more Lobster Banditos! And Rizzo, of course.
  19. miss kermie

    miss kermie Well-Known Member

    Oh, this is awesome!

    Still... Already? Wow...

  20. zoebell

    zoebell Well-Known Member

    oh, yes it is reciprocated. esp in the movies. they're together in every single movie, go back and watch the first three. the muppet show was where it was mostly not reciprocated, but even there occasionally there were several episodes where he was jealous.
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