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Open Source Puppetry Project

Discussion in 'Puppet News' started by ScrapsFlippy, Oct 1, 2005.

  1. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    Hiya! Okay Just a few thoughts. First of all I would like you all to check out my my space site: www.myspace.com/dannypuppet

    At the top of the site I have my very first video I filmed with my digital camera.(I know it isn't anything amazing) That being said it wasn't anywhere near as hard to get posted there as I thought it would be (though tricky to film myself with a digital camera.... limited my puppet arm movements even though I had the camera on a tripod).

    After I filmed my video I loaded on a site called tinypic.com. They gave me the tag to post it on my myspace site.....so if it is this easy to do (I still would have trouble with the making of as puppet though) couldn't we just open a myspace site and load our videos at tinypic and send the tag to who ever we put in charge of manning the myspace site?

    Again just my humble thoughts... I really like this project idea and don't want it to fade into oblivion. Obviously some of you have more advanced experience as to how to get videos up on the net.... but I thought this might help.
  2. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    I always wanted my own theme song.
  3. Phantom

    Phantom Well-Known Member

    FYI, I never got past the loading screen...

    I did a really crappy video (just playing around, my second attempt) on my website. I'm still learning. I've got my first attempt locked away in a secret vault so that it can be shown on Fox News for my thousands of fans upon my death. (Timely or untimely? Haven't decided...not really up to me)
  4. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info!! I know you need Flash player 8 to view it.... but even then i can't view it from some computers...or with my dial up connection at home.
  5. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    Hey phantom...I checked out your website and saw the video (Don't have access to sound right now).....I love the lion puppet.
  6. Phantom

    Phantom Well-Known Member

    Thanks for visiting!!!

    He is the first of my Debut Line (that I will part with. My son got the first lion.) I hope to market these to puppet ministries (or others) who want to buy character and maintain "affordability" (as defined by most churches).

    I'm lucky in that our church provides a pretty good budget for my team to travel (in-state) and to maintain several puppets. I've built all the ones we use now but I'm really still developing my style.

    I'm blessed. :)

    btw: *soundwise*The lion sleeps tonight.
  7. mummytomb

    mummytomb Well-Known Member

    As it is a free resource, I can't say what should be in the content of each segment. However, I feel uncomfortable with the whole OMFG or OMG thing. I'm uneasy with both and I'd hate to have to register my contribution under either one of the two.
    This is to say, I'm in on the project.
  8. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    I agree on the abreviation issue.... I'd rather have something that does not make anyone uncomfortable...as the goal is to make it open to everyone...... Also I watched the video that I posted and noticed that the sound does not synch with the video very well (which is not a problem on my original film). Is that a problem with my computer or a problenm with the site hosting it?
  9. ScrapsFlippy

    ScrapsFlippy Well-Known Member

    Okay, how about we dispense with the "OMG" and "OMFG" and just call the group "Omega." As for a logo . . . How about a plain old un-romantic "upper case" Omega?

    Danny - CONGRATULATIONS! I haven't been able to see your videos yet (I have personal issues) but I'm sure they look great!

    On a (sort of) disrelated note, my wife and I are starting up a project similar to this one, but much more "collaborative" and less "open source."

    Read all about it: http://thefelties.blogspot.com/2006/01/timmy-tubesock-or-how-i-stopped.html#links

    BTW: This is my way of "getting my feet wet" with video blogging.

    Enjoy! (I hope.)

    -- Scraps "I'm no Martin Scorcese" Flippy
  10. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    Wow!!! Can't seem to see the video but I really like the idea...Its good to see you and your wife getting something going for yourselves though since you were the one who posed this idea in the first place.
  11. video567

    video567 Well-Known Member

    just curious if anything ever came up about this
  12. ScrapsFlippy

    ScrapsFlippy Well-Known Member

    I hit a rough patch in my personal life, but things are starting to look up. Pamela and I will be hitting Chinatown, and then Timmy is off to Sidney, Australia.

    As for the Open-Source idea, I'd have to say this thread has been a real education.

    -- Scraps
  13. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    I think the lesson of this thread is if you want something done do it yourself.... I've been doing my own videos over on my myspace site (they are nothing amazing but I am proud of them at any rate) and scrapsflippy went and did his Timmy Tube sock thing(which is pretty funny stuff and follows a lot of the ideas he set forth by suggesting the open source project). I guess I wish we could have gotten something put together here but oh well. Who knows maybe this idea will get revived. I'm on board if it does.
  14. ScrapsFlippy

    ScrapsFlippy Well-Known Member

    You're absolutely right, Danny.

    I think a true open-source project could work, but it would take a mighty big "opinion leader" to start it and set up the basic idea.

    From there, it's a matter of the idea catching fire among an audience, which then leads to members of that audience originating their own additions to the overall idea. I'm not sure a committee, collective, or commune can create such a project. I think that it comes down to individuals, and certainly an individual to kick the whole thing off.

    If you want it done, do it yourself.

    Still, this thread has been a very interesting and educational exercise.

    -- Scraps
  15. Buck-Beaver

    Buck-Beaver Well-Known Member

    I think this thread has been really interesting too and very insightful. I think the idea of collaborative and even open source is really viable, but like you've both said the key part is someone taking ownership of something and getting it up and running.
  16. video567

    video567 Well-Known Member

    well if anyone has has a desent pattern i am willing to make a generic puppet film something put it on a re writtabe dvd and mail it to the next person so they can continue to add to a dvd mail it to the next person. i have tons of foam here, glue, and material that if i dont get it back i wont be concerned, all i will be out would be the shipping cost and i am not to worried about it.then the video could be uploaded to rapid share to make sure everyone can download it also so they can have all the rought footage. eventually once the puppet makes his tour around the world it can all be edited and we can all make our own dvd. the final dvd with the rough footage can go to someone with video editing skills and they can create something for everyone to have. a muppetcentral co op to its extreme all creative commons. i know in rapishare you can load a lot of files then we can download the final project and burn our own dvd or vcd... just a thought
  17. ScrapsFlippy

    ScrapsFlippy Well-Known Member

    The idea really blossomed, didn't it? It's exciting being a part of a multi-national brainstorming session! If anything, we've seen that people will run with a good basic premise, and disagreements can be sorted out cordially.

    -- Scraps
  18. Buck-Beaver

    Buck-Beaver Well-Known Member

    I've recently been taking a look at the latest version of Celtx, which is really impressive. It basically allows multiple people to collaborate on a film online and it's free, open-source software. I saw a very early version about a year ago and was not very impressed, but the new version of this is fantastic. I think it's going to be really interesting to see how it helps collaborative online filmmaking projects.

    I've decided to turn my Bear Town project in to an open source, CC-licensed, collaborative online film (I started a thread about this here awhile ago). To avoid some of the problems that were highlighted in this thread it's going to be structured like a regular low/no budget independent film with a writer/director and proper "departments" each with a head person with the main difference that almost everything is being done collaboratively online. I just got back online after having no Internet at home/work for about a week and half so I hope to have bunch more about this to share soon.

    I'm really eager to see what happens with the 10 second club, Scraps' project and other things of this nature. It's a really exciting time to be involved with this kind of puppetry!
  19. Buck-Beaver

    Buck-Beaver Well-Known Member

    This is sort of what I'd like to see happen, sort of an "Open Puppetry Commons" that could be a huge repository of footage, patterns, puppets, etc.
  20. Buck-Beaver

    Buck-Beaver Well-Known Member

    I saw this on Slashdot and wanted to pass it along, an article from the Economist about the Open Source movement and it's advantages/disadvantages. One of the points the article makes is that for any open source project to thrive it needs a rigid, business-like organizational structure. If you're interested in open source it's good reading.


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