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Preliminary Thoughts on Master Replica's Fozzie Bear

Discussion in 'Muppet Replicas' started by Kevin Knight, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. MWoO

    MWoO Well-Known Member

    Like i said, just because they went back to the drawing board doesn't mean they wouldn't draw something worse, or in this case the same.

    Is it me or does the nose in the MR pics look like the flocked one Travis mentioned?

    Anyway, I really would have liked to buy Gonzo but too many issues with the likeness bother me. I mean all they had to do was get the face right at least and I would have ignored the "sock" but the eyes are too far apart again, due to the stupid white eyelid shells, and the mouth isn't right and the pupils aren't focused right. I wish they would just drop those white shells and give us proper eye placement.
  2. Kevin Knight

    Kevin Knight Well-Known Member

    From the MR replicas forum I clicked on the Kermit's world tour banner then on the The Great Gonzo Photo Puppet LE Pre-Order! "View Article" link It then gives this info
    $299.00 each
    Collectors Society Pre-Order Date: November 7, 2007 (9:00am PST)
    General Public Pre-Order Date: November 8, 2007 (9:00am PST)
    Expected to ship: Spring ‘08

    So either he shipped ahead of time or they consider this spring. I don't know speculating. But they are also saying Fozzie pre-order in Spring '08. Thoughts?
  3. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    I am soooooooooo looking forward to Fozzie. It's the main one i've always wanted and i have friends who wouldn't usually buy these who also want a Fozzie. I think he will be the breakout one that could boost the line to make sure it continues. I just so hope that with Travis on board, a perfect prototype, and the new factory they manage to get him perfect without any of the major kinks they've had recently.

    Bring on da Bear!
  4. ButchCat

    ButchCat Well-Known Member

    Hi all,

    Just a quick word about Fozzie’s fur being different than the original’s. When Master Replicas got me the Fozzie Bible and patterns they also asked Puppet Heap if they had any of Fozzie’s original fur on hand and sadly they did not all they could do was give me a very small sample of the fur and they got that off of a Fozzie puppet. So it’s all gone. We could not get our hands on it at all.

    With swatch in hand I looked high and low. I even had Propologust help in the search. The stuff is just not made anymore and hasn’t been made for years. It took me a very long time to find what Propologust found and even that is gone now. I can’t even make myself my own Fozzie Bear because I am out of this stuff. We had the same problem with Gonzo. How ever Propologist did find me some fur that was dead on to Gonzo’s original fur but again there was not much. :(

    Don’t get me started with how much of a pain in the A….. it was to dye this stuff. :grouchy: OK, OK breathe deeply! I’m good. Well I guess that’s it for now gang.

    Take care and have fun, :excited:

    Terry Angus
  5. Kevin Knight

    Kevin Knight Well-Known Member

    Wow so really all the swatch was good for was color matching? At least it did help eh? I actually thought your proto looked more like fozzie than Fozzie's on screen. I honestly think his looks are dead on. So what your saying is you would have to go through that dying process to have fur to create a fozzie of your own. If you don't mind me asking, from beginning to end, how long did it take to build the proto? Thanks for the insight.

  6. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    There is the picture of Fozzie and Kermit outside together, i honestly thought that was a frame from one of the movies, and several other people i have shown it to thought the same. I think the work Terry has put into these prototypes is amazing and i just hope the finished product does his work justice as that will take pride of place in my home - probably with a rubber chicken and oversized sunglasses, lol. :o
  7. muppetperson

    muppetperson Well-Known Member

    Fozzie pre order

    That is the preliminary information that Amy gave us last year.
    However in a recent Ask Travis thread, someone asked when pre order would be and Travis said he didnt want to mis-speak at the early stage in the game.So it wont be next month.Maybe april/May.Travis said he was looking at a 6 month window with Fozzie shipping 3rd or 4th quarter.
  8. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    :o It appears they are about to start factory production on Fozzie. I doubt pre-orders will be available until they have a factory sample to photograph. I was amazed that Gonzo got to me so soon after he was ordered. I'm looking at the little guy right now. :concern: His little shoes.

    I suspect that Fozzie won't see customers before October. Just a guess when factoring in how long it takes to go through each process. I also can't believe Gonzo and Animal arrived at my apartment a month apart when it took a year between Kermit and Animal! If not one Muppet were made after Gonzo, I'd still feel these seem complete enough. I still really want Fozzie and Piggy! Scooter and Pepe follow right after that as indulgences. :rolleyes:
  9. KermieBaby47

    KermieBaby47 Well-Known Member

    Really? Complete without Fozzie? :o

    LOL, kidding, but yeah, I love that bear. He & Rowlf are who I need to feel complete. I can do without Piggy (can I?), but don'ta getta me wrongo, I'm buyin' her as soon as she's available.

    Terry's Fozzie is so fantastically perfect, I can hardly wait to see some factory proto pics! I wish the same factory was doing him though, but maybe the new one will surprise us by paying a little more attention to the minute details. :insatiable:
  10. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    With Travis on board now and he is going to see that Fozzie is done right. I knowwe are going to get a really good product when Fozzie comes out!
  11. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    I think we will too, but its the production manager who ultimately makes these things. I guess Travis is just focusing more on Muppets marketing more now so he can fight for certain things to be put right and keep his eye on the ball on those grounds, it means more to him than it will other people. I think its a smart move them having a true Muppet fan in the loop on these. These are fantastic products, hopefully the new factory can make sure there is no small errors that affect the whole thing as they really do deserve to do well.
  12. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    By the way, Luke. It is my view that Gonzo isn't skipable as a replica. Even with the weird nose thing, he's just so cool! I can't wait for the bear, but my bank account can. :o
  13. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    I totally agree with you! Owning Gonzo is not the same as just looking at pictures on the web. To actually have him there is just another total experiance. I was in aww when I took him out of the box. To me, he looks like Gonzo, just cause his nose is not made out of foam does not mean that he is NOT Gonzo. Strip a chicken of all it's feathers....does this mean it is no longer a chicken? ;)
  14. KermieBaby47

    KermieBaby47 Well-Known Member

    LOL, very fitting analogy! :D
  15. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I'm certain Gonzo would support stripping chickens! :concern:
  16. muppetguy

    muppetguy Well-Known Member

    We won't have to worry...

    Hey guys, at least we won't have to worry about the eye-lid issue when it comes to Fozzie and Piggy, that's one thing everyone could be comfortable about. I'm acctually ready for Fozzie....and so is my bank account. I really want to start saving up for Piggy...I put $10.00 towards her already. (I know...might sound crazy, I just needed something put away for her....it makes me feel like she'll be made soon):)
  17. Luke

    Luke Well-Known Member

    I agree in a way, they do all seem to "pop" nicely together as a group as i said in another thread. In another way though, i think it lacks much Gonzo character (the eye and pupil positioning being the reason - not the nose) but at the same time they have done a good enough job of it looking like him and not some other wierdo. I think a lot of people will be on the fence about him more than any other replica, and the decision will probably come down to whether they need the "group" - friends and colleagues have walked past my screen and seen these, and they do love Gonzo but its kinda like "hhhmmm yeah isn't that cute", but show em that Fozzie prototype and they pretty much bite my hand off as to where they can get one. Oh and for some reason any women is pretty hyped about Piggy being made as well.

    Once the customisers get onto sorting the eyes i think the photos will gain a lot more character.
  18. Was Once Ernie

    Was Once Ernie Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry. I promised my comment in another thread would be my last... but this one really is.

    I don't think Gonzo can be considered a replica. And it's not the materials that are the only problem. For instance, if I buy a replica Star Trek phaser, I wouldn't expect it to be made out of all the same materials that they used to make them for the TV show in 1966, but I would expect it to look EXACTLY like it.

    Kermit, in my opinion, is as near perfect as he can be, considering how many different versions there are. And Animal, even with his minor flaws, still looks like the real Animal (just look at Anthony's most recent pictures).

    But Gonzo, no matter how much you love him and how much he grows on you, is off. Apparently, he's close enough for some of you, and that's fine. I'm glad you like him and I'm glad he makes you happy. I hope MR sells a ton of them. But he's not a replica. No matter how far away you get or blur the photos or take them in the dark, that nose material doesn't look like the original. I don't need to list his other flaws, everyone knows what they are and are choosing to overlook them.

    No matter how cute his little shoes are, he's just not a replica. There was a Broadway show that was probably before the time of most of you on this board. It was called "Beatlemania" and was a group of look-alikes and sound-alikes of The Beatles. The commercial said, "They're not The Beatles, but an incredible simulation." To me, that's what this Gonzo is... "He's not a replica, but a reasonable simulation."

    Okay, I'm done now.

  19. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    As one of this products greatest skeptics and critics I can agree with much of what you said. Not even my (fresh out of the box) photos do him justice. However he does look pretty sweet out of the box.

    I wouldn't use the term "authentic" with this Gonzo, but I would use the term "replica" because by most definitions of the word there's a loophole of being a very close copy of the original.

    I understand people passing on the item. That was never an option for me because I love this character. He's staring right at me and even my (sometimes harsh) critical eye is just seeing the Gonzo I know and love. Okay, so he likes to put socks on his nose. He he. :concern:

    Added Note: This isn’t really a 180 statement from me. I still hold many of the same views about the product, but he looks far better than any of the truly atrocious pre-order photographs. :scary:

    If I had money to burn I'd buy two of each of these guys. But I don't (thank goodness, think of the space issues).
  20. MuppetCaper

    MuppetCaper Well-Known Member

    Then if this is the case....Animal should be right up there with Gonzo. His tongue and nose are not made out of foam to replicate the character. He should also be considered a simulation. Gonzo's full body is still made out of the same patterns as the original. So that does qualify him as being part of a replica. The only thing stopping him is his nose which is a small percentage of him. We all know that this is the main part of that makes up who he is, and it is sad to say that this had to be his downfall for it.

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