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Rumor: Lindsay Lohan in "The Muppets" Sequel?

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by bknatchbull, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Still just because he managed to do a successful movie doesn't mean he's gotten his act together. I know that's the assumption right now but I know how these "Behind the Music's" play. We found out later on that things weren't so rosy as they appeared to be.

    And I'm sorry but Downey had multiple chances, not just a second one. He got away with far too much and didn't get the same kind of negative reaction from the public that Lindsay did. Same with Charlie Sheen. If it's a guy screwing up we talk about how rebellious they still are. If it's a woman, she's just sad and pathetic.
  2. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Because of the olden times belief that women are supposed to be the "fairer sex". At least that's the way Dr. Phil put it once when he compares teenaged girls, and otherwise young women (like twentysomethings) acting out as opposed to be teenaged boys and twentysomething men.

    Not to mention, another point that a lot of people make is that if men sleep around with a lot of women they're apparently praised for their actions, but if women sleep around with a lot of men they're regarded as certain words I can't use on this forum.

    Personally, I think neither of the genders should be praised for such activities, or rebellious behavior, or whatever... if they're not shown the consequences of their actions, or nothing is done to punish them for their own good, they'll never learn... like with Sheen and Lohan, they NEVER get in trouble for what they do, and after a while, we've stopped wondering why they always get in trouble all the time.
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  3. zoebell

    zoebell Active Member

    i think robert downey jr. was much more talented and had a lot more friends in hollywood than lindsay lohan. people really wanted to see him get it together because he had true potential, and i honestly don't think anybody ever felt that way about lohan. she was 17 years old when she started going downhill and she'd only really had a couple of movies that were hits (and that wasn't necessarily due to her, anybody could have played her part in mean girls and it would have been good)
  4. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Her version of Freaky Friday was okay at first, but I don't know, I think it lost its appeal to me in recent years... she was pretty good in that movie, I must say, but I didn't necessarily agree with some film critics at the time who were saying she was destined to be the next Meg Ryan (whom people are now regarding as a home-wrecker since John Mellencamp divorced his wife of some many years to marry her instead). Her performances were stellar at best, but I didn't really think she was really A-list Hollywood material... again, I just could NOT see her playing the Jeannie that Barbara Eden perfected so well.
  5. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I just don't think having more talent means more people should be rooting for them to get better. In fact a lot of times these "friends" will end up putting all their effort into getting them new work so the audience will stick around, but not really getting them the help they need.
  6. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    I don't ever remember hearing comparisons to Meg Ryan, but I think she peaked with Mean Girls. By 2006 she was already getting closed to washed up, with terrible flicks like I Know Who Killed Me and that trash biopic of Mark David Chapman with Jared Leto. I don't think she could have ever reached Meg Ryan's level in terms of carrying a picture, but with good choices in both her personal life and her professional life she could have turned into a sort of Jennifer Aniston-lite, doing romantic comedies and stuff.
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Well, for one thing, Jennifer Aniston doesn't really make good choices in her personal life (HOW many guys has she gone through?), and secondly... I think Rachel McAdams has already stepped into that role... y'know how people always complain of Jennifer Aniston doing the same movies over and over and over again? That's basically what Rachel McAdams has been doing these last few years.
  8. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    It's funny, in any other industry that would be called having a stable career. But in the show business it's considered embarrassing, heh.
  9. zoebell

    zoebell Active Member

    yeah, i honestly think her getting into trouble and all made her MORE famous than she was before

    so to me, when her level of fame comes from scandals, that diminishes any credibility. i don't think she had that much of a screen presence to begin with. most people praised jamie lee curtis's performance for the freaky friday success, and with mean girls, i guarantee you that could have been any other actress in that part and it would have been the same. rachel mcadams arguably stole more scenes in that with her role. the star of that movie was tina fey's script
  10. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I just don't like letting other drug addict actors like Downey and Sheen off the hook because they supposedly have more screen presence. (Not saying you're doing that, just audiences in general)
  11. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    Interesting thought. I don't know how many people are actually letting sheen off the hook though. I really do hope Lindsay Lohan is straightening out her life, but I think some of her choices to do that were bad. The problem is a lot of these people don't have anyone telling them not to do stupid things. Now Robert Downey amazes me. Not only did he make a comeback but his two big characters are a drug addict and an alcoholic.
  12. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Any of his many actor friends or fans that talk about how wonderfully rebellious he is, ignoring or making excuses for his violent history. I've seen this far too often.
  13. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    There's a difference between dating a lot of people and throwing away your career to cocaine/meth whatever Lindsay did.
  14. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    We all sabotage ourselves one way or another. Some quicker than others.
  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Her F.R.I.E.N.D.S. co-stars look at her and say "at least she has a career." Lemme put it that way. Cougar Town is constantly threatened by cancellation... Mr. Sunshine didn't last long (I blame the fact they explained Allyson Janny's character's craziness when they SHOULD have held off on that). And... that's basically it. She may be making stupid movies, but stupid movies is still better than stupid unsold pilots for a stupid TV series.

    All celebs have skeletons in the closet. Some get revealed very publicly by themselves, some you don't find out until its too late. Sometimes, they do one really REALLY big thing and that's it. Sometimes it's little things.

    Charlie, however? Well, that's Chuck Lorre's fault. He's the one that hired him when he had a history a lot worse than Robert's. Plus, that show was on one season too long even before Charlie fell off the wagon and lost it. Now we got Ashton Kutcher making it even more of an unwatchable joke and it's STILL getting good ratings? The show's been boring as heck since he popped on. I wish they got John Stamos.

    Still, I just don't hate anyone enough to be happy they failed. As much as the thought of a 40 year old overweight Miley Cyrus mumbling through old songs at a state fair would bring me a chuckle, I'd actually hate to see that and I don't like her all that much. I quite hate hearing child actor "where are they now" stories that don't have a happy ending. I really don't want Lindsay to screw it all up again, but it's probably going to happen.
  16. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    *crying* Please don't cancel Friends with Beverages (as I prefer to call it, since I can't quite bring myself to say "Cougar Town" out loud). Oh please don't let this happen!
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I know the guy who created it was desperate to change the name. I said to myself, it's too bad that Arrested Development was already taken.
  18. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I agree that they certainly had to have known what they were getting into when they hired him. And by the same token, there was certainly a lot of publicity about Sheen that the audience should have been aware of. Instead they ignored it or just kept making excuses for their hero just to keep the show on the air. (Again, not talking about you)
  19. MuppetVision

    MuppetVision Member

    I wouldn't mind seeing Lindsay as a cameo in it, if that did happen. Heck the more a-listers they get (and even if you don't think she's an a-lister at least her name is known by most.) the more chance the movie will draw in more of the non-muppet fan crowd.

    I am excited that Buzz is already forming around the potential new movie!
  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    It's a combination of both their faults. Chuck hired someone with a spotty past, but all Sheen had to do was not screw up. Had both parties managed to put up with each other just a little longer, they could have ended the show when it was on top with a decent, plausible ending. But Sheen went nuts and Chuck wanted the sweet sweet money of a show that went on for an interminable amount of time. I don't really think the audience cares about anything BTS as long as they're entertained and it's not a Michael Vick level of despicableness. I try very hard to separate the characters from their real life counterparts.

    I find 2.5 Men a Family Guy situation... you have 2 other, BETTER written shows that sorta kinda get ratings as good as the main show. Just superior in every way because they TRY. The main show is just "there" and doesn't have to do squat because people still watch. Mike and Molly and Big Bang have a lot of depth that 2.5 lost years ago.


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