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Sesame Street Live: When Elmo Grows Up

Discussion in 'Sesame Appearances' started by SSLFan, Jan 26, 2008.

  1. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    Plant life you say? Well, the only thing I can think of that comes close to that is the stage from DTL.

    And I've seen photos of LPS, and I think the schoolhouse design for that stage was pretty cool. I think the stage design from When I Grow Up was my fav.:)Big Bird's Sunny Day Campout also had a really unique set.

    And referring to that photo, is it me, or was the center of the walkout smaller back then? If it was, I wish it was small again. Do you know how many muppets could fit in the center back then? Nowadays, it seems like the center can hold up to all the muppets!:p
  2. StarrFilter

    StarrFilter Member

    Yeah, the ramp and maxi stage was a lot smaller back then. For the 20th anniversary show, "Big Bird's Sunny Day Camp Out" they decided to make the ramp and maxi bigger to bring all the characters closer to the audience. the bigger design works a lot better for that purpose. i love it.
  3. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    You know I never really got to see the show at an arena. When the show comes my city they play at a theater, and the whole maxi stage is taken away. That's the only thing that's missing!lol.

    Oh yeah, and I see the shows at the Fox Theater, in Detroit. Ever been there? It's a great venue. It's great they get to play there for five more years.
  4. StarrFilter

    StarrFilter Member

    Yeah it's wierd. The west coast and east coast arena tours actually play some big theaters. One of them being the Fox Theater in Detroit on the East Coast arena tour. All the characters are in the show, but lots of position and blocking is changed when they play these cities. And sometimes characters are removed from numbers because there isn't enough room on stage. I marvel at how talented each performer is on the East and West Coast tours because they have to actually learn two different versions of the show. And the poor understudies have to learn anywhere from up to 12 different versions of the show, because if they understudy 5 characters and have to know their own understudy track, they have to learn all the blocking and dance placement for their anrena shows and theater shows. It's a tough job.
  5. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    Wow! I never really payed much attention to characters being cut, but you do have a point.;) I saw a pic of WEGU, and Elmo and Big Bird seem to be cut from most of the opening song. Mainly the second verse of the When I Grow Up theme.

    Man, this stuff is truly amazing...:search:
  6. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    Hey Ryan, um...I have a question,lol.

    Do you know how recently the show programs have been using actual pictures of the show instead of it being illustrated? Well, why did VEE stop doing the illustrated programs? I have to say, I perferred those much over the new ones. The funny thing is that I remember a long time ago wishing that they would start using show photos in there programs,...and I guess I got my wish!LOL:o

    I definatlely regret that now.

    And on a random note:D, when you were little, do you ever remember going to a SSL show, and whenever your favorite character left the stage, you would either get mad or asked where he went? Well, I remember a few times(mostly when I saw the When I Grow Up show) everytime Big Bird(my fav) left the stage, I would be so dissapointed! I would eventually get over it, and as soon as I did, BB was back onstage again. Yay!:wisdom:
  7. StarrFilter

    StarrFilter Member

    I agree! I wanted them to put photos in so bad, but now I miss the illustrations. They changed it, because parents thought if they paid 7 dollars for a show program, they want pics from the show, not just a sesame street story book like they could get in any store. And plus, every other live family show; Disney Live, Disney on Ice, Barney Live, Diego Live, Ringling Bros, etc... uses actual photos from the show.

    I never really tripped when my favorite left the stage, but I remember it being an issue the first time I saw "Let's Be Friends" when Prairie Dawn didn't speak, and Grover wasn't in the show at all. I was like, Who the **** is Zoe...! LOL, I was rather annoyed. But it was a great show, so I got over it.
  8. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    Oh, that explains it. Gee, it's a shame. That's one of the things that made VEE so unique from other shows.

    LOL. That was strange. I mean, how could you leave out lovable old Grover? I'm glad there both speaking again. Well, at least Prairie was for a little while.

    And did you hear about Prairie being cut from the Super Grover(well, Elmo now) show? I hear her lines are being dubbed by Rosita mostly. I couldn't believe it! They could've at least made her an u/s. I also know that Cookie Monster and Oscar are being played by the same performer, as well as Baby Bear and The Count.

    This is pretty random, but I can honestly say I hate Baby Bear. lol, um..no offense to any fans. I really peferred when he would appear in a FEW shows and return every couple of years. But, I have to remember that it's for the CURRENT generation now....crap!

    another random comment... but I'm so happy they're selling Big Bird dolls again! I remember they stopped for awhile, for whatever reason I don't know.:rolleyes: Now, all we need are Ernie and Bert dolls! Did they sell them when you went as a child? I know E&B were VERY popular back then.

    And thank you for answering my questions Ryan a.k.a StarrFilter! You've told me stuff I never thought went on behind the scenes! I really appreciate all you have said! Thanks!:)
  9. StarrFilter

    StarrFilter Member

    Awww. You're welcome SSL Fan. The whole one performer playing two characters thing is done in order to condence the show from the arena version to the theater version. Prairie Dawn was an easy character to cut from that show seeing as how she didn't move the story along and was not that important to the show. But I AGREE, they should have at least made her an understudy like they did for the theater version of EMM. No one even knows who Roxy Marie is anymore.

    I don't remember what dolls they had back then, but I remember the flags they sold of individual characters. I remember my parents buying me and my brother an Oscar, Prairie Dawn, Count, Big Bird, and Snuffy flag. All in different years of course. LOL :)
  10. SO That is probably why I didn't see Telly in 'Big Bird & The ABC's' back in 94'. You know the version I saw of that and When I Grow Up were theatre shows.

    I researched 'BB's ABC's' and found some differences here and there, and according to my show program I have. In the original(which is the program I don't have, I have the 91' remount'), Elmo wasn't in it, and I believe Telly Monster must have had to have speaking lines in it as well. I heard things that Snuffy was in the original BB's ABC's, but I find it hard to believe since most of the story focused around Tee Hee.

    When I saw the show in 94', Elmo was in it, probably as a small understudy. The program of that show was dated 1991. The cast in that book included Elmo. It also credited Martin Robinson as Telly, although when I saw the show, Telly didn't appear at all, so he probably cut, since it was a theatre show.

    Not only that, but in my 91' book of the remounted BB's ABC's the only neighborhood people were the Postman and the Painter, but in the original I also learned that there was a Handyman, and a Doctor, and I even heard there was a Farmer too! I'm sure they were all cut out when the remount of this show came out...minus Mailman and Painter, because they ACTUALLY had speaking lines in 'The People in Your Neighborhood' when Big Bird showed Tee Hee around Sesame Street. Than I don't think the neighborhood people spoke anymore than that.

    It is all rather interesting....I wonder if anyone could clear up the differences between the 87' and 91' Big Bird's ABC's though.
  11. StarrFilter

    StarrFilter Member

    the only difference i know of is that elmo was added in the remount. and there were less a/m characters for the people in your neighborhood scene.
  12. StarrFilter

    StarrFilter Member

    but yeah, snuffy was definitely in both versions.
  13. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    lol. Imagine a kid going to see their favorite muppet(Elmo) and find out he doesn't have any lines! lol. If anything, poor Grover really suffered in the 90's. He was an u/s alot.:(

    Were Grover fans disspointed?

    Ya know something? It seems like every show Snuffy's been in, he only appears just a little bit. He's not seen alot through out the show. For ex, when I saw Let's Be Friends, he was only in the park scene and when the gang went to the circus. He even appeared on the cover of the show program!

    The only show that Snuffy was in alot, and had major role, was in Big Bird's Sunny Day Campout. And still, he appeard on the BACK of the show program. Weird isn't it? Well, I just hope Snuffy returns someday. He's still on the tv show.

    Oh, and just a few more day's until EGT premires!:excited:
  14. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    I know I replied to this one already, but, I just have to say that VEE should definately do this show again! But I know why they won't. Because the one they call Elmo isn't in it much. But that's the whole reason why I liked the show!

    When I listened to the CD the other day, it seemed EVERYONE spoke more than Elmo.

    I also noticed, or just realized rather, that the Cookie Monster, Oscar, Rosita, Grover,Zoe, and Telly performers all played dancing sheep in the "Tap Your Troubles Away" song(i think:D). With all respects to VEE, that was too many sheep! I would've at least had Cookie and Grover in that scene as well. Looking at some pictures we took, only BB, Snuffy, Ernie, Bert, Elmo and The Count were the only SS muppets on stage.

    And another thing, THREE Mr. Noodles? I was so confused by that, lol. Also, I believe Dorthy, Elmo's goldfish, SPOKE! I remember them cutting to a backlight scene that had something to do with fish after that. Man, that was sooo creepy.

    I remember when I saw the show, my mom had got us first row! I was terrifyed of those costumes back then, so I was so freaked out before the show would even start. Luckily, Grover was the only muppet who came off the stage, and he didn't even go near where we were sitting!

    I have so many mermories of this show. So many I can't type them all!:zany:

    I did do my own little review here though:
    http://forum.muppetcentral.com/showpost.php?p=674414&postcount=16

    Memories, memories....
  15. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    Yeah, but wasn't Big Bird in the 97 one more than he was in the 05 one? And it seemed like the Palettes had different voices back then too. Or maybe I was just thinking that,lol!:D
  16. Mistoffelees

    Mistoffelees Member

    Sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I was curious which characters were considered small, medium, and large? I imagine Elmo is small, and Bert is tall, wondering about the others though
  17. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    Okay, for example, a Honker would be tall, Grover would be medium, and Prairie would be a small. Oh, just to let you know, Bert was NEVER an understudy, F.Y.I.;)
  18. Mistoffelees

    Mistoffelees Member

    You misunderstand me....

    No I think you misunderstood my question. I wasn't asking which characters are the understudies, but rather which characters do they understudy. To use your above example, who are the small characters that Prairie understudies, who are the medium characters Grover understudies, and who are the tall characters that the Honker understudies? I was asking if Bert was considered a tall character, not whether he was an understudy. Hope this clarifies things. Thanks.
  19. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    Oh, sorry if I misunderstood, lol!

    Well, I'm no expert and I'm sure StarrFilter can clear things up, but here are my guesses.I'm using them from the When Elmo Grows Up show.

    Tall u/s(Honker for ex.): Big Bird, Bert, Telly, Cookie Monster, Count

    Medium u/s(Grungetta): Ernie, Rosita, Grover/Baby Bear, Oscar,

    Small u/s(Roxy Marie): Elmo, Zoe, Prairie Dawn, Abby Caddaby,

    Well, those are my lucky guesses. Hope that clear things up a bit.;)
  20. SSLFan

    SSLFan Well-Known Member

    WOW! Elmo Makes Music is already on the theater circut? That was FAST!


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