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Speculation: CW interested in Muppets?

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by Beauregard, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    There's no doubt we'll have a follow up movie. The Muppets was very low budget, and I'm wondering exactly how much of that budget was rebuilding certain Muppets. Considering how bad the investment in John Carter was (due to their clumsy handling of the marketing), I'd tend to think they'd gravitate towards making another Muppet film. 50 Million is an easy investment to make back.

    As long as that other movie in that article doesn't get in the way.
  2. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Put it this way I firmly believe we'll be getting a new Muppet movie over CW promising a Christmas special. I will be really surprised if a new special is coming. You notice he didn't even say "new" Muppets Christmas special he just promised more Muppets for the holidays. I think their just gonna air a rerun myself.

    I just find it hard to believe if there was gonna be a new Christmas special something would've been leaked earlier.
  3. Hayley B

    Hayley B Well-Known Member

    I'm happy about it and yet I'm sad too. Wish it was on a network I actually watch.
  4. Aaron

    Aaron Well-Known Member

    You can make an exception can't you :)
  5. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I don't see them airing VMX unless all they gut out all the references to NBC (which is going to lead to jarring cuts), and Muppet Family Christmas seems like a pipe dream. If they're willing to run a movie, I guess MCC would be the most likely.

    It doesn't necessarily say that there's going to be a new special, but it doesn't say that it won't either. I could see them rushing out and getting one together before shooting the film (that seems a ways off).

    Still, it really should be on ABC. But I guess Wipeout is more important. Or some drama show that will last 3 episodes.
  6. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Out of ALL of them I'd love for them to air MFC. As for the next new film itself I expect sometime next year we'll hear more news.
  7. Vincent L

    Vincent L Well-Known Member

    Air ALL of them, for pete's sake!
    (not like it makes any difference to me, as we don't have the channel)
  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    MFC would probably never hit current television. It's (by the unfortunate standards of mainstream television) very dated looking, if the music wasn't already a problem they'd still have to edit this thing down to the nub to fit all those commercials (as we have far more now than ever before... look how many breaks LTS had, and almost every 2 minutes too), and the ambiguity of Disney really owning it or not, but they probably still having to clear character rights. To say nothing of digitally restoring and remastering the special. That can't be a cheap or quick process (not to mention they're going to have to cheat letterbox for widescreen TV's).

    Unless, and bare with me here, they don't so much go with Disney's Muppets, and go with something like Elmo's Christmas Countdown.
  9. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Are you kidding right now? Its actually in quite good condition, and besides, don't tv-channels often air old movies and the like (Its a Wonderful Life, for example!) For me, you simply cannot beat the pure JOY of the opening number from that movie.

    But I think airing it would be too confusing with all the different properties involved.
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  10. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Exactly my point! They show "Its a Wonderful Life" and the 24 hour marathon of A Christmas Story! So why shouldn't MFC not be shown?!
  11. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    That's because those things have always been in circulation and constantly have little facelifts done for them from time to time. Watch Frosty the Snowman sometime. You can't NOT see the redubbed version that robs us of every instance of June Foray's voice. Those are all old stand bys that have been aired every year since their debut. If they stopped airing those old stand by specials, someone's going to complain, even though they're easily available on DVD. While we have a digital version of the EDITED MFS (who knows if the cut sequences have been kept in the same format), something tells me they need to get an even higher-def version too make it look shiny and new. Heck, I hadn't seen any out of the blue old Christmas Specials pop up on regular television since UPN aired The Fat Albert Christmas Special last decade. Then NBC aired it once the following year. They mercilessly stick to stand by stuff, and I haven't seen a Garfield special on TV in years. So, Muppets or not, why something from 20+ years ago that hasn't been in TV since JHC lost their stake in Odyssey?

    But I'd rather Disney try and release it on DVD themselves, and find a way to renew negotiations to get those songs that were missing so we can have an uncut version. Much better than a TV version that would be mercilessly edited.

    In the case of It's a Wonderful Life, only reason they even reran that on every channel was because it was public domain for years, and TV stations needed filler. NBC owns the broadcast rights now.

    Also... a movie doesn't really count, as they tend to rerelease those in every format, each in higher def than the one before it.
  12. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    For me unless it's a new special or MFC I won't be tuning in at all. As I never cared much for the other ones. And I can spare myself the commercials and watch them on DVD. :p Well except for MCC as I don't own it.
  13. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    To me, the unlikelihood of MFC on TV anytime soon would have to do with clearing rights rather than the special's age. Personally, I do think that this special is still timeless, no matter how few times it was shown on TV. But there's the fact that Disney owns the Muppet Show characters, while the Sesame characters are own by Sesame Workshop and the Fraggles by the Henson Company. Some sort of agreement would have to be made in order to at least see the already edited version on TV again. Disney could probably clear up the music rights (hey, if they were able to do it with almost every season 2 and 3 episode of TMS and most of season 1, then a few songs on a special can't be that hard).
  14. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    What if the president of CW is just pulling our strings on the whole thing? :p
  15. Muppetboy09

    Muppetboy09 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, maybe we're the puppets now! :)

    *Everyone Booing*
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  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Supposedly, Disney owns the rights lock, stock, and barrel to the special, and supposedly wouldn't need JHC or SW's permission... but I'm sure they'd have to deal with them somehow so as not to sour any relationships. I don't fully buy that, someone said it a while back (I forget who), and I'm sure they'd need JHC and SW to sign off on a few things. Plus, do we want to see this special with the huge amount of edits from the VHS and DVD versions with the plausible addition of other edits to make room for more commercials (thanks, jerks with Tivo!)?

    Either rerunning an NBC reference free edit of VMX or MCC would seem the only thing that they could air (unless they go Sesame) unless they get a new one made.
  17. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    And they could re-air LTS.
  18. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Well my chances of tuning into CW are looking slim each time. Lol!
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    But technically, that's not "more." They probably would reair that anyway.
  20. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I think the whole network is bluffing. :p

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