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Steve Whitmire has left the Muppets, Matt Vogel to continue as Kermit

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by GonzoMan, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. ConsummateVs

    ConsummateVs Well-Known Member

    Matt's Kermit sounds pretty off in this MTotW if you ask me. Which is weird because he sounded fine in the Hollywood Bowl and the first MTotW that he started performing Kermit in.
  2. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    It was probably filmed quite some time before the Bowl. I would say it's on par with the first MTotW. Both were likely among Matt's earliest Kermit performances shot.
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    It . . . honestly sounds nothing like Kermit. Like, at all. Without looking at the video while watching, I wouldn't even guess it was Kermit.
  4. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    Kermit made an appearance on the Pentatonix Christmas special tonight on NBC. Besides the terrible writing, Kermit didn't sound anything like Kermit at all.
  5. MrBloogarFoobly

    MrBloogarFoobly Well-Known Member

    Why is Matt Vogel making Kermit sound like an angry victim? :p
  6. rexcrk

    rexcrk Well-Known Member

    I guess he’s still getting it down. He did sound amazing at the Bowl and some other appearances, but yeah he definitely sounds a little off here.
  7. Mario500

    Mario500 Active Member

    I had seen what appeared to had been a recent installment of a national TV program named "American Masters" with what appeared to had been Kermit speaking with a voice unlike those of his creator or the the Steve Whitmire discussed here earlier (the installment was named "This is Bob Hope"; as for what I thought of that voice, I did not like it).
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  8. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    This one was okay.

    But again, I'm sure Matt's just getting used to the voice.
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  9. Muppetboy09

    Muppetboy09 Well-Known Member

    I guess I'm in the minority when I say that the Pentatonix appearance was one of my favorites of his so far. Maybe it's just because I've gotten so use to his Kermit already, but I really just felt like I was watching Kermit and Constantine.

    As for the Muppet Thought of the Week? Blegh. They should just scrap the ones they recorded during the first sessions, since he has improved so much since then.
  10. Pig's Laundry

    Pig's Laundry Well-Known Member

    That's because all the "Thoughts" videos were filmed together months ago. The Hollywood Bowl was long after these were filmed.
  11. rexcrk

    rexcrk Well-Known Member

    I figured as much. The Pentatonix video was great, I honestly never expected to see Constantine again now that they have the same performer, so that was a nice surprise.

    I still miss Steve though. I was watching the Single All The Way episode of the 2015 show and it’s kind of sad looking at his latest performances because you know shortly after them is when he gets fired.
  12. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    I miss Steve also and wish he would come back.
  13. xSunnyEclipse

    xSunnyEclipse Well-Known Member

    I still think Matt's best performance so far has been the Hollywood Bowl because I felt he was much in character there with Kermit.

    Some of these appearances/Thoughts of the Weeks haven't been that great to show off or let Matt have fun with the character. Though, I did like him on Dancing with the Stars.

    We have many more years to come, so I bet in 10 years we'll be praising Matt's performances from 5 specials. (lol just guessing).
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  14. Mario500

    Mario500 Active Member

    I would had not made this "bet" if I were you (personally I doubt I would be praising this Matt for any performance related to Kermit due to his voice for him being very different from those of his other official performers).

    I would feel the same way if I were you.
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  15. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    Me too.
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  16. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    Watching any performances with Steve now is sad because it makes you wonder what the other performers were thinking during filming.
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  17. vettech28

    vettech28 Well-Known Member

    If you mean the films and other projects after Jim Henson died, then that would be true. Even if he was being a little overprotective even then, they still managed to get things done.

    I still wonder if any other performers are still standing by him. I mean we know Mike Quinn and Frank (unofficially) stood by him, I still wonder if Dave is still there for him given that they had loads of screen time together as Gonzo and Rizzo, Bunsen and Beaker and Wembley and Boober.
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  18. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Well, I think he was in a tight spot being stuck on the conveyor belt. Plus this was the first Matt did Kermit shouting, I believe. Again, since Matt is still new to performing :) we have to keep in mind he's not going to sound the same all the time. It depends on what he's saying and what tone of the voice he's speaking and things like that. Though I definitely liked the "Jetsons" reference in that one.

    And don't forget the classic Kermit/Gonzo pairings such as "Everyone Matters" from VMX and the touching goodbye scene from MFS.
  19. Banjo man

    Banjo man Active Member

    OK so here is my response to this. I was very happy Constantine was back but now, Since Matt does Kermit and Constantine, they sound TOO similar. Not trying to be mean to Vogel but now,instead of Constantine having a bad Kermit impression and sounded very different from Kermit, but know they sound a bit to different. I'm not trying to be mean . Also, side note, Love the joke about Constantine being a meme in the form of "Evil Kermit".
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  20. MikaelaMuppet

    MikaelaMuppet Well-Known Member

    Wish Steve would come back. It’s just not the same without him.

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