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The Chipmunks

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Yorick, Feb 15, 2011.

  1. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Sometimes The Chipmunks fandom can through a lot of the same kind of toxicity that the Muppet and Sesame fandoms endure, and right now is no exception: as of this week, all but one episode of the 80s Chipmunks cartoon series have been found and are available for fans to download - this is actually a very big deal, because only a limited number of episodes (65, to be exact, due to syndication regulations) have been aired in reruns, and only a few select episodes that weren't included in the syndication packages have seen legit DVD releases (usually on compilation DVDs that tend to only include three or more episodes); so there's actually a ton of episodes that have been "lost" all these years, and in many cases, the only versions of them that have been found online were foreign dubs.

    Naturally, a lot of fans are excited and grateful for just this, but of course, much like Sesame Brats, there are some fans who aren't satisfied with this, and are demanding that one episode be found to complete the series.
  2. LittleJerry92

    LittleJerry92 Well-Known Member

    I mean, every fandom is gonna have one rotten apple at the end of the day.
  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    One of the biggest similarities of toxicity among fandoms is the generational toxicity. Much like Sesame Brats and such with their "70s SS was the best!" "No, 80s SS was the best!" "ATC sucked!" "No, ATC was the best!" "You're all wrong, SS with Elmo's World is the best!" The Chipmunks fandom has the same thing: "Original Chipmunks from the 50s and 60s was the best!" "No way, the 80s are the definitive best Chipmunks!" "I like the CGI movies!" "You're wrong, the CGI movies are a travesty!" "ALVINNN is actually better than the 80s cartoon!" "Nothing's better than the 80s cartoon!"

    Don't get me started on ship wars; that almost drove me away from the fandom entirely!
  4. datman24

    datman24 Active Member

    Honestly, you're going to find toxicity in any online fandom, especially when it comes to children's properties like Alvin and the Chipmunks. As for myself, I don't find much value in The Chipmunks brand. Don't get me wrong, I have fond memories watching them on both Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network, but nothing truly sticks out for me (well, except for that movie where they met Frankenstein or something). Re-watching the the 1980s show years later, I don't find it bad, but I don't find great, either. For what it is, it's just alright.
    LittleJerry92 likes this.
  5. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I was just talking about this the other day: the 80s cartoon, animation-wise, has not aged well, at all. The seasons that were animated by Ruby-Spears have such a Hanna-Barbera-esque look to them that it makes it look even older than it is - like it came from the 60s or something; the seasons animated by DiC have that obviously cheap, pen-drawn look that a lot of Saturday Morning cartoons of the late 80s/early 90s had.

    Personally, I appreciate the character development: over the span of all these decades, each of the characters evolved and developed beyond being just one-note/one-dimensional trope personifications (well, admittedly, with this new Nick show, we can argue that at least Alvin and especially Theodore have become Flanderized) - that's something you don't see a lot of in kids entertainment, because most people in that field (like Charles Schulz for one) discourage it.
  6. datman24

    datman24 Active Member

    Though, I think most of us can agree that the live action films are awful. Admittedly, however, I've only seen the first one, and I doubt any of the subsequent films are any better.
  7. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Some of the younger crowd out there do like them, but I mean hey, if they like them, then that's fine. Like you I only saw the first one, and while I didn't care for it (I felt Jason Lee was horribly mis-cast as Dave, and the characters' personalities felt too forcibly contemporary and "hip" to appeal to modern audiences), I at least acknowledge that it got me interested in previous incarnations of the franchise.

    Really, the main problem with those movies is 20th Century Fox having too much corporate influence over them.
  8. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    I will say this: I wish Drtooth was still hear to rant about this Sunday's upcoming new episode of the Nick series being a preachy, heavy-handed sermon about saving bees. Kind of like that ARTHUR episode about Sue Ellen going vegetarian.

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