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The end of Playhouse Disney Live at WDW

Discussion in 'Bear in the Big Blue House' started by FlutterSnuggle, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. Misan

    Misan Member

    nope sadly but don't give up maybe when disieny decides to do more with the muppets you could try to be a backround performer
  2. AAO

    AAO Well-Known Member

    Also, just to throw this out there... Disney-MGM-Studios is changing completely! Playhouse Disney Live On Stage is getting new characters - although keeping JoJo's Circus and Pooh but a new format of Pooh with that new "Darby" character - ugh -, Who Wants To Be A Millionaire closed about nearly a year ago and the stage is going into rehab for a new ride called Toy Story Mania - it's neat, but we already have a Buzz Lightyear ride at the Magic Kingdom, then High School Musical is getting vampted for HIgh School Musical 2: School's Out... it's a new version of the show.. although the title will confuse people for school is now back in session, The Disney Stars and MOtor Cars Parade is leaving and Pixar's Block Party Bash is coming... which I'm actually excited about for I'm going for the jump rope workshops, then the really big news is Disney MGM Studios will now be called "Disney-Hollywood Studios"! That's right, the rights to MGM are finally gone... this may worry people about "The Great Movie Ride" on account of the MGM films... well no worries, they'll be fine on account that those were some of the only rights Disney could keep! Anyway, just to show that the entire park is getting a makeover! Eveything will but up and changed by Spring of 08...
  3. BigBlueBear

    BigBlueBear Member

    Wow. That is a lot of changes, although that park really needed it. The Superstar TV set has been empty for at least a decade or more. I miss those good old days though because I have fond memories of that show and the tram tour of the set houses.

    However, I can't say that it's all good. High School Musical....cough, gag...I can't believe Disney could sink this low, even if it is popular.
  4. hehehe

    hehehe Active Member


    (clears throat)
    Personally, I... (deep breath) ....LIKE the direction the Playhouse Disney show is going. i'll tell you why. When kids go to Disney World, what's the first thing they think of, or more appropriately, who is the first thing they think of, even kids raised on Bear? I would think the answer would be Mickey Mouse. Am I right? And honestly, most of the shows they're adding, with the exception of MFTAP) are good kid's shows! Mickey Mouse Clubhouse is what Dora the Explorer should have been, ditto for Handy Manny = Bob the Builder, and Little Einstiens? Introduction to classical music! :) So I, for one, want to see what it's like. (runs to avoid rocks pelted at head)
  5. BigBlueBear

    BigBlueBear Member

    While those show may have some quality, what about the Doodlebops. How can anyone defend that show....:confused:

    And why should the changes affect the Bear? Can't he stay instead of getting evicted?
  6. hehehe

    hehehe Active Member


    ...yes, except what I was trying to say was... I think Mickey will make a better host than Bear. (runs to avoid dynamite chucked at head. As he runs) Are the Doodlebops in this show? I didn't catch that. if they are, then I agree with you about them. Judy and David are way better. (They're a Canadian kid's music duo. (avoids second stick of dynamite and runs home)
  7. BigBlueBear

    BigBlueBear Member

    Uh....Yay, Yay, Yay...we get it. It All started with a mouse, but creatively I think Henson has the edge. ;)

    If we used your "Mickey" theory, we'd have no Little Mermaid show or Beauty and The Beast or Nemo. Everything would be "Mickey" related. It's called variety.
  8. hehehe

    hehehe Active Member

    No, not for every show, like Little Mermaid. I'll break it down...
    --As much as we Muppet fans hate to admit it, Mickey is the reason most kids go to Disneyland or WDW.
    --Mickey has a very popular show on Playhouse Disney right now that, in my opinion anyway, is a quality program.
    --Bear has not been on for years (at least, in a regular slot) so most kids don't know who he is anymore (look at the Jerry Lewis telethon for proof)
    --So, if I were designing this show, it would make sense to take Bear out and make Mickey the host of Playhouse Disney Live for that twofold reason: he's got a popular show, and he's Mickey.

    Now, I am going to miss Bear's segments too, but it's time to move on, folks. :)
  9. BigBlueBear

    BigBlueBear Member

    Let me ask you this as a "Muppet Fan" hehehe....

    When you think of Jim Henson, what are some of the first thoughts that pop into your head? Could the "Muppet Show" possibly be one of those shows that you relate to the brand? Well, they don't make that show anymore either, and I'm sure that many kids today don't even know what it is, BUT we still have a Muppets 4-D show don't we.:o

    Keep Trying....

    Btw: I am a huge Disney fan, have family that works there and in the movie business, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with DIS business strategies. It is very flawed, in many respects, but that's a story for another day and another place.
  10. Treelo

    Treelo Well-Known Member

    Can't speak for Florida, but MuppetVision 3D is being removed from California and replaced with Mickey's Philharmagic.
  11. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    That's a really good point. Of course kids today don't know who the Muppets are but they still enjoy it regardless, they can still enjoy Bear. Besides, if adults like the Muppets, too, Bear is a perfect way to get older people in who aren't ashamed to see Bear (that's the only reason I went in but unless after Bear leaves they don't have something really worthwhile in there, I'm never going in again).
  12. BigBlueBear

    BigBlueBear Member

    Obviously I'm not an imagineer and I don't have future plans sitting on my desk, but WDW already has a Philharmagic and they do (as far as i know) still have Muppets 4D. Whether or not they keep those is not somthing I am privy to.

    My point was that hehehe's philosophy wasn't sound. All shows need not be Mickey related. Additionally, the point that Bear is being replaced because it doesn't resonate with the new generation and is too old is flawed because there are other shows that are just as dated but still there. Muppets 4d was on example, but I can think of many others. The original Little Mermaid came out in 1989, but we still have a stage show in WDW. And what about the original Beauty and the Beast. Those are all much older than Bear, but they were kept alive by sequals. Why not do that for Bear?

    I just want Bear to stick around...it's just that simple. It's my opinion (which I am entitled to have). If you like other Disney Channel shows and are glad to have a replacement for Bear, that's fine too (your opinion is just as valid). But don't muddle opinion with poor factual statements and try to use that against someone else.
  13. BigBlueBear

    BigBlueBear Member

    Pizza Boy you rock :)
  14. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    Ah, I only went in once but I still thought it was decent, but I still really miss the old BitBBH show that was in there before Playhouse Disney, back in 2000, a day at MGM wasn't complete for me without getting to MuppetVision and Bear. :)

    It would awesome if they had the Bear puppet make walk-around appearences throughout the park.
  15. AAO

    AAO Well-Known Member

    About the walk around appareances; when Disney did "Bear in the Big Blue House Live" at MGM it was very popular. Then, "Bear Live" went dark in order to start work on "Playhouse Disney Live on Stage" which is here today. While the show was dark Bear did meet and greets outside of the ABC Theater. Although, I work with many of the puppeteers who did that and to be honest it's too much... the Florida heat, inside of Bear, and using only monitors to get around... It's hard enough for some of the stuff we do at Playhouse now with the Bear Cha-Cha-Cha.. the dance is very awesome but very difficult on a puppeteer's standpoint. Another point I'd like to make about whoever said that's only what kids come to WDW for.. well, being that I am one of the cast members of WDW, it's not always that.. girls come for the princesses and the boys come for the power rangers, in which we have at MGM now... also, being "really good friends" with Buzz Lightyear in the past, I know that kids have had their minds set on seeing him. yet you don't see him hosting a show in place of the Muppets... Plus, Mickey is all over the parks... I also work at "Voyage of the Little Mermaid" and I'm "friends with Sebastian".. Mickey is nowhere to be found but only as a "hidden Mickey" in one of the bubbles on the skrim before the show starts! Playhouse was able to give variety for children. JoJo is still popular, yet she will not be in the new show... thankfully for us puppeteers I'm kinda thankful... If you saw how that scene worked, you'd understand.. Stanley, on the other hand, I love! It's a very interesting scene and there's so much to do with it! On the other hand, the Book of Pooh scene does need to change, but Tigger and Pooh are two of my favorites to perform! Then at the end of the show with the Otter Rap and Goodbye Song... it's very nice! What other show has a "goodbye song"? Mickey Mouse has the "Hotdog Song"... that's a lil' odd... But again, it's change and of course we don't like it. Out in DCA they're getting rid of Muppet Vision for Phillarmagic which took over "Legend of the Lion King" at Magic Kingdom here in Florida! Seriously, Mickey's not too fond of puppetry if you ask me ... lol ... Yet, he's the "boss"... not that big on raises though in a paycheck! Anyway, Mickey is all over the parks... he's in a lot of shows as it is.. he's in:
    "Dream Along With Mickey" at Magic Kingdom
    "Philarmagic" - 3D at Magic Kingdom
    "Fantasmic" - at Disney's MGM Studios
    "Mickey's Jammin' Jungle Parade" at Animal Kingdom
    "Disney's Dreams Come True Parade" at Magic Kingdom
    "Disney's Stars and Motor Cars Parade" at MGM
    and he's everywhere to meet and greet with!

    And again Bear is a rare meet and greet only on special occasions after the show... sometimes Treelo and the others visit, but that's only on special occasions..
  16. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    Really? I had no idea. I only go down to Orlando during President's Week. I can understand Bear being difficult to perform out in the Florida sun for a while considering you need to really keep him moving a lot, since he's really half puppet-half walk around.

    But I agree with what a lot of what you said, Mickey dosen't need to be all over everything and considering not a lot of kids have seen his cartoons in the first place, they should at least give some of the other franchises from attention.
  17. KermieBaby47

    KermieBaby47 Well-Known Member

    Hey AAO, is that a pic of you with Treelo? If so, that's awesome! Treelo and Ojo are the best.

    It's really sad about Playhouse Live and MV3D. At least I got Playhouse on video on our last visit, really hopin' that Disney releases Muppet Vision on DVD sometime.
  18. AAO

    AAO Well-Known Member

    YEah, that's me with my good friend Treelo... we "perform" together persay... haha... But remember that MV3D will still be here in Florida and not at Disney Land's California Adventure park... Hopefully we'll get a lot of the enhancements that they have!
  19. BobThePizzaBoy

    BobThePizzaBoy Well-Known Member

    Cool, what echancements did DCA get?
  20. AAO

    AAO Well-Known Member

    Well their animatronics of Statler and Waldorf are much better as well as their pit of penguins and Bean Bunny... Also, a lot of their site gags are funny - like Gonzo's motorcycle crashed into the top of the building... a few new "parody" movie muppet posters... as well as the "test dummy" 3D Beaker outside the labratory... They have great site gags and their effects are a little better on account that we've let ours run down a bit in the effects department, yet guests still "wow" over the attraction!

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