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Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by a_Mickey_Muppet, May 20, 2006.
Things do not happen overnight. Things also change. Disney will utilize the Muppets but things take time to plan and get the right people behind. Please be patient with the Muppets and do not rip them apart for doing commercials or movies that you were not satisfied with. Lets be happy that they are still around for us to enjoy.
i wish i was a glass is have full kinda guy,
i still see no evidence that disney has the creative people it needs to make them muppets live again, nothing they have done in the last few years short of Pixar has given me any reason to believ other wise
Consider, though, that the creative influence of Pixar at Disney is rumored to be much stronger since the acquisition. I'm optimistic that this will affect the Muppets in a positive way.
I wasn't posting a year ago, so I didn't chime in then, but I gotta say I didn't like the movie on TV. I didn't even get thru the whole thing. I don't have any great desire to seek it out on DVD.
I think what isn't there (or in any of the newer Muppet stuff) is the same thing missing from new Looney Tunes or new Star Wars movies, and I am probably stating the obvious here. The passion and drive of the creator just isn't evident (even when, in the case of the new Star Wars, the original creator is there). There was so much of Henson in the old Muppet stuff, his relationships with fellow Muppeteers, his creative drive, his "stamp" on everything, that I don't know if they will ever recapture that elusive "Muppet spirit" (though parts of that Christmas special came close).
What Disney views the Muppets as (from what I've seen and read) is someone else's thing that they hope to make some money off of. Holding auditions hoping to get people in there that will turn in dynamite performances is well and good, but you still don't have that same old spirit. It's the same feeling I get when someone does a new Bugs Bunny cartoon. It looks and sounds good and I might even chuckle, but it doesn't have that little thing that is impossible to put your finger on, but you know when it's there, and you know when it isn't.
And from what I saw, it wasn't there in The Muppets' Wizard of Oz. But what do I know? I'm just some guy watching TV.
You know, I said something simialr a while back about it. Uh...forget which thread, anyway, I think what was missing was pure muppet comedy and mayhem. But I'm not really picky. If its the muppets, I'll buy it. but yes, I definatly agree the MWoO was missing something. And actually, when i first saw it, I had never been as big of a muppet fan as I am now (I can thank my dad's christmas present, TMS season 1, for that ), and even then when I didnt know too much about the muppets, something was telling me the movie was indeed missing something.
This leads to the question..
What is Disney trimng to to with the Muppets??
The only time I see them is every once and a while.
Is disney tring to destroy Jim Henson's Famed Frog??
Or is Disney gearing up for a Muppet surprize.
I haven't seen The Muppets Wizard of Oz yet as it isn't available in Australia. I would love to see it. There is no release date for it in Australia. I could buy it on ebay but my dvd only plays australian dvds.
I dont think Disney would intentionally try to destroy the muppets reputation. I think that they are trying to see IF the muppets can compete with todays entertainment, and seeing if the muppets are popular enough to last. I dont know about you guys, but I've noticed that kermit and pepe (and others) have been appearing alot more on disney channel (in those micky wand thingamabobers)
Exactly Sgt Floyd. That's what they're trying to do, I for one love Muppets in adult humor and want to see more of it, but not to the point of where we are seeing rapping muppets saying cuss words in every sentence, the muppets have always kept up with times.
It's a pretty good movie..I really like Wizard of Oz..I like the tin man and I adore Gonzo..so it was a perfect mix LOL!!
Here's what I have on desktop:
I just rewatched the DVD version and it was better then I rememberd.
Def worth a secord viewing if you haven't seen it since last year.
I've had that on my desk top before.
Well I do agree that the Muppets WoO was missing something, hard to put you're finger on it.
I thought the same thing of It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas movie, although for my personal say, I like IAVMMCM a little more that MWoO. I didn't really like how many pop culture refs were in either as well, I mean I don't mind a few, but there was way too many in both movies. I have a little bit of a hard time wacthing the part in IAVMMCM dvd with Fozzie trying to get to the bank before 6 PM, man that was way too many pop culture refs at one time for me.
Another thing about MWoO DVD is I thought the EM bands voices were way off, besides Zoot, but he didn't even really talk. At least he sounded like Zoot, that's cause Dave was still in there, of course.
I still can't make it through the movie without falling asleep halfway through. Sometimes chronic fatigue can be a good thing.
Well I TRIED to watch the dvd but after a few minutes I still wasn't satisfied. So I just watched IAVMMCM which is (in my opinion) better than Oz. I will TRY to watch it this afternoon...
Muppets' Wizard of Oz is decent I think. There are some good parts, and there are some not-so-good parts. Actually in a previous post a user mentioned how this is the one Muppet movie that they haven't watched a million times... and I agree. I haven't really watched a lot either. Actually I was just thinking about watching it again today, I'll probably watch it soon.
One thing I DID like about this movie was Scooter's presence. He had a decent-sized role and his pupeteer did a wonderful job with the voice and everything (Brian Henson's version of the character sounded like it FIT with the character, but it just wasn't Richard Hunt)
Why is the DVD so much better?
The DVD has deleted scenes that were not on tv. And not just as a special feature. The scenes are actually in the movie, but they just got cut out of the tv release
Kind of like Lord of the Rings with the Extended Editions
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