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What went wrong with Muppets from Space?

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by Daffney, Apr 1, 2011.

  1. DramaQueenMokey

    DramaQueenMokey Well-Known Member

    Maybe I go a little nutty with pushing my opinion as to why I dislike MFS, but here it is:

    Kermit and Piggy have this awkward: "we're broken up yet we live in the same house and have the same friends" vibe going the whole movie.

    Sure, Piggy says 'Kissy kissy' to Kermit as she's leaving for her job on UFO Mania, but, it was forced and he doesn't react at all, he just completely and totally ignores , which is more awkward interaction.

    I mean, I get that Frank Oz couldn't be on the set much and all of that, but, couldn't there have been a quick aside about their relationship? Whatever the status of it was, a little more info on it would have been nice.

    I just hated how awkward they acted around each other, it felt like that couple who breaks up and still has to work together and quite frankly, things were WEIRD between them!

    Kermit didn't even get jealous during the 'You are beautiful sweetheart' bit. I get that Piggy used the mind mist for that, but, Kermit had gotten more jealous just seeing Nicky Holiday remotely near Miss Piggy in GMC.
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  2. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Regarding the Kermit and Piggy relationship, I am surprised Piggy didn't consider using the Mind Mist on Kermit. Or maybe it would have been funny if Kermit made a subtle worried reaction when Bunsen presented the invention to Piggy (or maybe he did and it's so subtle we didn't notice :)).

    And she didn't use it on K. Edgar Singer when he showed up with the gun? At the very least she could have tried to use it and it ended up being empty.
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  3. DramaQueenMokey

    DramaQueenMokey Well-Known Member

    That's true, I would have loved to see her spray Kermit and maybe he could have snapped out of it at some point and had no idea what happened and that could have lead to some pretty great humor!

    As for not using the Mind Mist on K. Edgar Singer, I think even if she had the 'please load weapon' part would have been less funny, but that's just what I feel.
  4. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Can I just please give you a big virtual hug? And just say if I could like this a millon times I would. XD
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  5. DramaQueenMokey

    DramaQueenMokey Well-Known Member

    A hug..? for little moi :) ? Yay, I'd love a virtual hug <3 *accepts virtual hug* Aww thanks :3
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  6. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    YAY!!! *BIG HUG* I'm serious though everything you posted you said what I couldn't find the words too! LOL!
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  7. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Kermit got more jealous on The Muppet Show and he definitely got jealous when she did her own show *The Fabulous Miss Piggy Show* but like I said that's like the biggest issue I had with this movie was that it was like they were strangers. There was no chemestry or dynamic between them at all!!! I was like REALLY?? :confused:
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  8. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member


    Yeah... an unsolicited script full of Kinnikuman references. I'm sure they'd go for that.

    I touched upon that a while ago. Piggy and Kermit seem to not really be there in the film anyway. You could have done the entire movie without Kermit and Piggy, and I don't think anyone would notice. They're their for branding reasons, and little else.
  9. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    So what went wrong with MFS?? EVERYTHING!!!!
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  10. Powerstars

    Powerstars Active Member

    It's enjoyable, but it's still a bit of the "what happened?" movie.
  11. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Agree to disagree on this one. I did not find it enjoyable from beginning to end.
  12. Powerstars

    Powerstars Active Member

    One of my problems is that it's too dark. Literally, too dark. I thought this was a Muppet movie, yeesh!
  13. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I'm just saying if even Kermit the Frog himself said "you want to do a better film" then nothing needs to be said on my part. Lol! But hey no offense for those who did enjoy it! I ain't knocking you for it I'm just giving how I personally feel about the film. The Muppets in the movie were not the Muppets I grew up with.
  14. Powerstars

    Powerstars Active Member

    Yeah, I can see that, they weren't in character.
  15. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I feel that even though the movie wasn't merchandised well, it seems like the Wendy's kids meal promotion was advertised more than the actual movie was (well, that's advertisement money Columbia/Henson didn't have to spend, basically free publicity while also getting paid for the license).

    I often wonder why all of the Wendy's Kids Meal items were so different from each other. There's a minature Electric Mayhem Bus (which is cool, I know many fans were wanting one at the time), a Kermit keychain, a Gonzo space vehicle, an activity book, and a microphone. So two pieces of character merchandise, two toy cars, an accessory, and a activity book. Why not just make it all character toys? Perhaps all plush keychains like the Kermit. They could make made keychains of Gonzo, Rizzo, Miss Piggy, and Pepe (or Fozzie or Animal). Why include an activity book as an option alongside toys? Did Wendy's normally have kids meal promotions where every item was significantly different (I honestly can't remember)?
  16. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Don't get me started on Wendy's Kids meal prizes. Unless they're something completely and utterly uniform, like the Looney Tunes Pen promotions, you could easily end up with an AMAZING MOC action figure or a freaking pinball game or worst of all, some IDIOTIC paper good masquerading as a board game or note pad.

    To say that Wendy's rarely had uniform prizes, I'll give you an example of the last DECENT recent promotion... Wordgirl. There were 5 toys. Well, two toys and 3 weird items.

    • A magnetic plastic Dancing Captain Huggyface
    • A "flying" Wordgirl on a stick
    • An audiobook with NONE of the original voice cast, except probably Wordgirl (Marc Thompson, regular voice actor for 4Kids projects did all the other voices)
    • a Hexagon puzzle
    • a clip on card game with all the villains on it.
    I only got the CD and the puzzle.

    Like I said, unless they're all pens, Wendy's stuff has ALWAYS been inconsistent. Unlike, say McDonalds, where the toys are usually uniform. BK's sometimes are, sometimes aren't.
  17. Fraggline

    Fraggline Active Member

    @Drtooth: that's an awesome new re-write for the movie! Especially the "we have to go find..." gag.

    And, yeah, some parts of the movie did run kind of slow and caused me to lose interest at times. But I admit that I did like that "Clifford checking mail" bit--that was cute! It makes me want to write a little story about "Sha-nay-nay" sometime soon. Hmm....yeah...yeah, that would be a good use of my time today.
  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Cute, but a useless aside that took time from something better.
  19. Fraggline

    Fraggline Active Member

    Yeah, you have a point.
  20. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    Um, heh heh, that's kinda me. I mean MFS wasn't exactly my first exposure to the muppets, I first watched TMS Star Wars episode, TMM, MTI, and then this. But once I became a muppet fan and learned there was a movie with my two favorite things "muppets" and "space". I was jumping for joy and I rented the DVD. Ok for the record this was what I was expecting in bold letters. Gonzo's sad, because he has no one and goes for a stroll or something, gets abducted by spaceship. Aliens inside spaceship believe Gonzo is "the chosen one". Soon Kermit and the gang find out and go to some NASA place (I envisioned something like C. O. V. N. E. T) where they steal a spaceship and go after Gonzo... IN SPACE (dun dun). Basically they find him and they go home and stuff happens and Gonzo comes home. P.S After watching the trailer I though the "Celebration" scene took place in outer space. That's what I though the movie would be. After watching it I admit I was a bit disappointed, but at the same time for some reason I loved it. I watched it 2 more times before returning. After watching it months later I didn't get the thrill, the vibe, I did after watching it those 3 times. But in all MFS has a place in my heart, and while I found out a lot of the other muppet films are much better than MFS, I still watch it now and then and I still like the film a lot.
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