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Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by caper, Jun 29, 2012.

  1. Fraggline

    Fraggline Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I agree with you that it didn't really look quite in-tune. But I have to admit that, in the theater, I was laughing! Muppets' walking (when we can see their legs, I mean) just seems to make me giggle. I wouldn't mind keeping the technology we have if it means that we keep that comedic effect.
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  2. Cindy

    Cindy Moderator Staff Member

    Like Piggy falling down in those heels walking on a wet cobblestone street? Realistic and funny.
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  3. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    All I want is for The Muppets to have a future.
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  4. Walter

    Walter Well-Known Member

    Im sorry...Waldo is Waldo.. But the Muppets Should NEVER EVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREEVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVERVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVEREVER...GASP.....E V E R be CG... The Muppets are the Muppets because they are real..tangible and real... they are really there when the film is shot. All of the magic would simply dissapear if they were to physically dissapear.
  5. bandit

    bandit Well-Known Member

    Exactly. And it's like I said, Muppeteering is an art form in itself. Trying to go around replacing all of the Muppets with CGI versions of them would be a bit like changing paintings with actual photographs. I mean, sure it might look more like the real deal and all but they are two different art forms. There is a little room for merging here and there but for one to completely replace the other? No.
    If you go back and watch the original Star Wars, Yoda had SO much more charm back in the days that they could strap him onto Luke's back and he would hobble around in his Muppety goodness. You replace him with CGI boring as heck Yoda who can suddenly do flips and all kinds of crazy things....*shakes head* Nuh-uh. He totally lost his charm.

    ...Of course....another large part of that had to do with the atrocious writing....but I digress.

    There is still a solid place in this world for the good old fashioned Muppets and their hijinks. This is the way they were meant to be enjoyed.
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  6. Vincent L

    Vincent L Well-Known Member

    I wonder if any of you actually liked the animated Muppet Babies. To me, the animation looks just weird.
  7. bandit

    bandit Well-Known Member

    Oh at first I didn't like them. I remember being really disappointed when they were cartoons instead of puppets. However, I did end up warming to them. I caught shows here and there. I liked some of their crazy fantasy sequences.
    The Fraggle Rock cartoon, on the other hand, I NEVER warmed up to. I hated it!
    All that aside, though, I think it's okay to have those kinds of shows in addition to the physical Muppets but I would never be in favor of replacing the puppets.

    See here is what I think is key in all of this.....

    We all love the characters and that is what stands out to most people when they watch these movies and shows. People become attached to the personalities. It's a credit to the Muppeteers that they put such realism into their performances that sometimes, I think, people forget that there is a real art behind each and every little performance of these characters. Jim Henson was interested in many things, it's true. I'm sure he would be curious about other technologies and how to incorporate them into his projects but at heart, puppetry is what this is all about. How does one improve on the art of puppetry and how does one continue to use technology WITH puppetry and not in place of puppetry.

    Anyway, I know I'm repeating myself. I'm just always so awestruck by how much just a little bit of felt and a whole lot of talent can convey.
  8. Vincent L

    Vincent L Well-Known Member

    My opinion: New characters can be CG, but existing ones should stay puppets.

    [now, where's that picture of Kermit and animated baby Gonzo?]
  9. CaseytheMuppet

    CaseytheMuppet Well-Known Member

    Even that is a stretch for me. Maybe Waldo could come back, that's fine. But I would really like to see new characters in puppet form. It would kind of be odd having a bunch of puppets and then a few CGI characters. :smirk:
  10. Lola p

    Lola p Well-Known Member

    You might wanna watch out: If Scooter sees this, there might be a Muppet smackdown coming your way!:D
  11. Fraggline

    Fraggline Well-Known Member

    I agree with you on that one. I would prefer it if most of the Muppets were real puppets with the exception of the occasional Horace D'Fly. It does make more sense than a combined group of CGI and puppetry. Also, the thing is that I don't want to see a shift to all-CGI because fabric, foam, and felt are what separate the Muppets from the vast number of CGI cartoons out there. It keeps them unique.
    But I definitely would want to keep Waldo, too. He's my occasional Horace D'Fly because I grew up with Muppet*Vision 3D and his character. And the fact that Steve Whitmire uses that goofy voice for him makes me love him all the more.
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