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Wierd Things you don't get

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by miss kermie, Feb 4, 2012.

  1. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    In the John Denver episode, after Kermit informs everyone that John Denver had invited them to go camping at the swamp, and they all try to get out of it, Miss Piggy threatens them into going. But right before threatening, she starts her speech with "We're going on a camping trip overnight". Considering how she emphasized the "overnight" part, I wonder why she'd want the others there. Without them it'd just be her, Kermit, and John Denver. From her point of view, wouldn't the less be the better?

    And at the end, when Kermit informs John that it's just them, John talks about catching frogs, making Kermit decide he'll find somebody else to go camping with. But wasn't it John who invited them to go camping in the first place? When I see him joke about catching frogs it looks as if he's trying to get out of going on the camping trip (maybe it was his idea but Kermit suggested the swamp?).
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  2. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Wow good points I never realized that! But certainly true! But then maybe she thought Kermit wouldn't go if he knew it was just gonna be him and her. Maybe she thought even if the whole gang comes maybe she could get some kind of alone time with Kermit??
  3. bingboingcutie

    bingboingcutie Active Member

    There's something that I've always thought was a little bit silly in MTM: Piggy gets all jealous about Kermit and Jenny hanging out together, but really, would Kermit, or any Muppet, ever marry a real human? Of course, Piggy could be just acting, but still, you'd think she'd know...
  4. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Would a frog ever marry a pig? ; )
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  5. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    If Piggy didn't get jealous we'd have no dynamic or as The Muppets would probably say we'd have no movie. XD
  6. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    But she knew that John Denver was going, so that was one other person going. And it wasn't her idea to go camping.

    Gonz would. He almost married Madeline Kahn, only for her to not want to marry him.
  7. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Lol! I have no idea then probably will have to ask Piggy herself. XD
  8. bingboingcutie

    bingboingcutie Active Member

    Good point there! But they're both Muppets, so it just seems to fit. Though Kermit thinks of himself as a real frog somewhat (as opposed to Piggy, who'd probably like to forget her swine heritage), so he might think it weird to marry Piggy.

    Muppets are so adorable that way. They don't see the world the same as everybody else does. Reminds me of how my older brother planned to marry our pet cat when he was little, and how I had my heart set on Prince William, who I was sure would marry me and make me queen because I knew that he was six years old just like me (actually, he was somewhere around 13 or 14). I think Jerry Juhl once said that Muppets are like children around the guest stars, and that has to be one of the most apt descriptions I have heard of them yet.
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  9. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    But then you have situations like The Frog Prince where the father is a Muppet and the son is a human...hmm, lol.
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  10. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Actually in The Frog Prince the father is a Muppet and the daughter is a human. It's Hey Cinderella where the king has a human son.
  11. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    There's one joke I don't get: the mail strike Newsflash from the Loretta Lynn episode. I get the air mail part, but not the first part.
  12. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    You're right, thanks for the correction. I own both of them but somehow got them mixed up.
  13. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Well I dont think we have to worry about marriage between the frog and pig anytime soon if ever so...Lol!
  14. MWoO

    MWoO Active Member

    In the muppets there is no line between the biological and the puppets. Kermit isn't a puppet frog, he's a real frog that happens to talk. Walter is a real person, he just happens to be really short. So it's perfectly normal for a real human to have a muppet relative. As for muppets dating humans, that's hard to say. On one hand if piggy dated a human it's still a pig dating a person, but whose to say what would happen in real life if all of a sudden he had humanoid talking intelligent animals? Maybe we'd all date a pog or a frog.
  15. Vincent L

    Vincent L Well-Known Member

    In case you don't know, "!=" means "does not equal"
  16. Powerstars

    Powerstars Active Member

    Oh, the irony!
  17. bingboingcutie

    bingboingcutie Active Member

    :) Yeah! Though I'm sure Kermit's got some sort of crush on Piggy, marriage is commitment. That means spending your whole life with that pig who keeps giving you chops in the groin every so often.

    I wonder if the Muppets think of themselves as Muppets. I guess to them "muppet" doesn't really mean puppet, but a family of entertainers, their act. After watching the "Secrets of the Muppets" episode of the Jim Henson Hour, though, it seems they know and they're trying to hide it: "He said the p word!!!"
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  18. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    You should watch interviews Kermit did when promoting the movie he has fully admitted that him and Piggy are a couple and has been consistent with it ever since the movie came out last year. Which makes sense since they get back together in the movie.

    The muppets are a family of entertainers I don't think of them as puppets their real to me. But Jim Henson used the word "puppet" a lot.
  19. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Well that's where the retcon we mentioned in another thread comes in. ;)
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  20. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Your the exception remember? Lol! :)
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