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Your Thoughts: TMS Season 1 DVD

Discussion in 'Muppet Merchandise' started by Phillip, Aug 6, 2005.


Because there are scenes edited from The Muppet Show DVDs:

  1. I am no longer buying the set

    6 vote(s)
  2. I haven't decided yet

    8 vote(s)
  3. I'm still buying the set

    100 vote(s)

  1. The Muppet show isn't out here yet, I was hoping to get it for my dad for fathers day. :( (I'm in Australia). Anybody know the release date of it here?
  2. bazooka_beak

    bazooka_beak Well-Known Member

    My dad accidentally double bought, so I was thrilled to get my very own free copy ;)

    I wasn't around in '76, so most of the episodes I wasn't familiar with, and can't miss what I never saw (in regards to the edits). Although I have seen some clips on Muppet specials here and there (such as "Wind Up Kermit" and the "Woozbanian Mating Ritual"). What I had seen I saw when Nick Jr. aired the reruns.

    Overall, it was a good time. I got a lot of laughs out of it. I did notice a lot of mistakes (such as seeing a puppeteer's face or hand) and inconsistencies (why did Piggy's voice keep changing, sometimes in the same show?). I'm excited as Season 2 can't come fast enough for me. I can't wait for Dudley Moore (one of my favorite episodes), Star Wars, and all those other goodies :)
  3. KCJ506

    KCJ506 Well-Known Member

    Piggy's voice would change because both Frank Oz & Richard Hunt performed her in the first season.
  4. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    I got the DVD yesterday, so I thought I'd comment here. Actually, so far I've only seen the first two episodes and the first ep I already had through Timelife. The difference with the DVD version was that included the original opening and Muppet morsels.

    About Piggy being performed by Richard and Frank, I've noticed Frank's Piggy sounded quite soft at times and I could hardly hear what she was saying. Most notably in the promo for the Phylis Diller ep. It seems like when Frank started with Piggy he wasn't quite comfortable with the character which might have been why Richard performed her at times.

    I really enjoyed the Connie Stevens ep, especially Bert and Ernie.

    I also liked the pitch reel. Though I was hoping Kermit would be in it. I know that they cut out when he said "He//," but I didn't think they'd cut out the whole scene with Kermit.

    I'll write more after I've seen more of the episodes.
  5. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Even though they alternated in the first season, often throughout an episode, there are quite a few scenes in the first season where frank Oz voices Miss Piggy even though other Frank Oz characters speak in the same scene (and in the same take, so it's not like the filming was stopped and then a close-up was shot, allowing frank oz to switch characters).

    At the end of the Jim Nabors episode, after Scooter says, "i'm shocked!", Fozzie says "i'm fozzie", miss piggy says "i'm piggy", and Animal says "i'm Animal", and Piggy is voiced by Frank Oz in this scene. Of course, Richard Hunt was performing Scooter, and one of them had to dub Miss Piggys voice.

    In the u.k. spot from the Peter Ustinov episode, Miss Piggy led the song "somebody done sombody wrogn song", and Fozzie had a few solo lines. Both were voiced by Frank, but the voices in songs were always recorded before they were filmed, so I guess it didn't really matter who was performing Piggy.

    During Fozzies joke in the opening of the Kaye Ballard episode, Miss Piggy reacts to the set-up of Fozzies joke, and both are performed by Frank Oz (I think Frank did the actual performing of Fozzie in that scene).
  6. KCJ506

    KCJ506 Well-Known Member

    Despite the cuts I enjoyed the DVD. I can't wait for the other seasons to get released. I hope they will spaced in within 3 to 6 months of each other, and not 12 months. I don't wanna wait 4 years to get see the Chris Langham and Buddy Rich episodes.
  7. KCJ506

    KCJ506 Well-Known Member

    This also happened in the Fozzie's Muppet Scrapbook tape. After they show the phernargelly(sp?) act, Piggy appears and talks to Fozzie. Both of them were being voiced by Frank Oz.
  8. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Darn. I wish I hadn't read that. I was waiting to get to the last disk on my DVD to see for myself. Lol. It's alright though. It seems Frank performed Piggy in the first season whenever she did a karate chop. That was rare with Richard's Piggy. I've also noticed the scene at the end of the Jim Nabors ep that minor muppets mentioned. I didn't even think of the fact that Richard was performing Scooter, but that probably was why they had Frank perform Piggy in that scene. I'm looking forward to watching more and seeing which Piggy is Frank's and which is Richard's.
  9. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Since this thread hasn't been updated in a while..

    I thought I'd add more here. Another difference I've noticed between Frank's and Richard's Piggys is the personality. I've noticed in the Florence Henderson episode, Piggy got upset in the conversation panel when they were talking about Shakespeare vs. Bacon. Richard's Piggy seems to know the meaning of Bacon relating to Shakespeare since she once asked her dance partner if he prefers Shakespeare to Bacon. Also, when Richard's Piggy was asked if she was in movies, she responded with "I hardly ever go." That's not something you'd her Frank's Piggy say. She'd probably say, "Yes, moi is a superstar." It's a bit strange. It seems like they're two different pigs who just happen to look alike. I just thought I'd comment on that.
  10. MikeWatt

    MikeWatt Member

    Took 'em a while to post it, but here's my Film Threat interview - http://www.filmthreat.com/Reviews.asp?Id=7898 . I have to call the Henson co. today about something special I'm working on as well for another magazine. If it comes through, I'll keep everyone posted (whoever might be interested). :crazy:

    Mike Watt
  11. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    Nice reveiw! Sure, keep us posted man!
  12. MuppetXEdge

    MuppetXEdge New Member

    I just returned from a 3 week US tour and was pleased to see, when I went to Target to get some supplies, that the TMS Season 1 was out. I picked it up, but when I opened the set up at home I found that there was no booklet/insert/anything. Yet, there is a flap on the left side of the cover suggesting that there should be something there. I decided that I must have been skunked, so I went back to the store to exchange it. The new one was also empty. I decided to get my money back and look into this. Can anyone confirm if there is supposed to be a booklet/insert or something in this set?
  13. dbarrie

    dbarrie Well-Known Member

    Yes, there is supposed to be a small booklet listing the discs and their respective contents. Every guest's name is listed. There are also some photos with the Muppets and some of the S1 guests.

    OI MuppetFan

  14. Whatever

    Whatever Well-Known Member

    I am jealous. I bought one, of course, but it is in the US, and I am in England, and I don't get to see it until July 2006. Waaaaa. :cry:
  15. anathema

    anathema Well-Known Member

    Umm...why didn't you just get the UK release, which will arrive in November? :-P
  16. Whatever

    Whatever Well-Known Member

    Because I'm gonna leave the UK in December, so it'd be a waste of money.
  17. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Did the encounter between Piggy and Fozzie occur in the linking footage or in a segment from the show? Because if it was something made after the first season, Richard Hunt wouldn't have performed Piggys voice.
  18. KCJ506

    KCJ506 Well-Known Member

    In the linking footage. It was made after the show was cancelled. Both Fozzie & Piggy were performed by Frank Oz.
  19. Daffyfan4ever

    Daffyfan4ever Well-Known Member

    Actually, I'm getting a little confused about when they have Frank perform Piggy in season 1 and when it's Richard. I just saw the UK spot in the Peter Ustinov episode where both Piggy and Fozzie sing and they're both voiced by Frank. What was up with that?

    I'm guessing by the time that part of the show was filmed they were having Frank perform Piggy regularly, so he would have to get used to recording voices for both characters when they appear together.

    I'm at the middle of the first season on the DVD and I've noticed it's Frank's Piggy seen backstage most of the time. Yet, it's Richard's in "At the Dance" and other sketches. I'm guessing a lot of them were taped early on.

    In fact, I read in the Muppet Morsels for the Florence Henderson episode that Frank was performing Piggy regularly by that point.

    But how does that explain the Harvey Korman episode? Richard performs Piggy through the whole episode in this. (The conversation panel in that ep, was really the only time I've seen Richard's Piggy get agressive like Frank's usually does. Most often Richard's Piggy was used for one-liners.) Anyway, that one came later than the Florence Henderson episode. What's the deal with that?

    Also, we've established that the reason Richard and Frank shared Piggy was that Richard was a stronger singer and could do her singing voice better. Yet, other than "Temptation," most songs by Piggy were performed by Frank.

    Can somebody give me more info on this? Thanks.
  20. Honbrifcl

    Honbrifcl Member

    All seasons already out on DVD? Uncut???

    I am really astonished!!!! I stumbled over this one:


    Does enybody know what this is? Do they already sell all seasons? Uncut?? Region free??? Or is it low quality? Exactly as shown on TV: they taped them from TV?
    Maybe one of you know what this is...??? Are they trustworthy?
    Is this legitimate? Does anyone have experience?

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