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Can we do something about posting for posts sake?

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Drtooth, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the offer dwayne. But I'm also looking out for others who might feel intimidated. By deleting threads or posts we are sending the wrong message. Instead of welcoming posters into the community so they can become more knowledgeable we risk the danger of driving them away.
  2. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    You're right. We can't expect new members to understand that. Most new members seem to mistake the forum for a chat room. We politely ask that short messages please not be posted. Most new members are understanding to these rules.

    Now..for the ones that aren't...those posts must be deleted. They're annoying to read.

    "Ex-Cuuse us for living!"
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  3. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    Let me put it another way...

    When you look at multiple different threads, and every other post is by the exact same member or two saying "I agree", "Yeah", "Okay", and such over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, after a while, it gets kind of old and bothersome.

    And again, when that's all a certain member posts (and I'm generalizing here, mind you), how do you figure that somehow does contribute to the forum? Think of it this way: suppose you're talking to someone in person, and you're trying to converse with them, but all that person has to respond to everything you or anyone else in the conversation is "Yeah". How do you figure that contributes to the conversation? Matter of fact, that's a BIG lesson I learned with my experiences with live television: when you're discussing something on camera, and someone asks you a question, you don't respond with "yes" or "no", that's dropping the ball that was handed to you, and that throws the other person off because it puts them on the spot.
  4. galagr

    galagr Well-Known Member

    I was referring to the fact that, in the event that they DO start putting post counts on threads, certain ones should not, due to the fact that certain threads (mentioned above) involve putting in quite a bit of information.
  5. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Wow Ed! calm down, it has been a long day on here with this conversation growing, and at the same time going no where all at the same time. In time things on the forum will work out, and I'm almost certain we will find something that works, for both the Mods and the members.
  6. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    That's what I do. I have the MC Alerts sent to a junk email, but most people have them to their reg. email and no one likes to be alerted for no reason. People want to contribute to the conversation. Short messages kill threads.

    Why do I have the sudden urge of revisting the T*K*O threads?
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  7. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    Didn't mean to offend or single out your post. I used it as just one example and could have used many other posts from others as well. What I'm trying to understand is who gets to determine which posts are worthy or not? There's a lot of threads here that I think are silly or even annoying. But I respect the right of those to start those threads or post in them. Why should we exclude those?

    There was a thread somewhere on MC started something about "Are members of such-and-such forum arrogant?" Well, by deleting threads and posts that we don't deem worthy aren't we becoming just as arrogant?
  8. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    Look, I've been around MC for a long time. It has always been a very welcoming and friendly community. I've never seen a movement where certain posts should be allowed or not based on whether somebody felt they were annoying or worthy. Like I said, I'm not looking to start an argument or offend any one. I would just hate to see MC become a place where people felt the posters were arrogant or snobbish and not welcoming.
  9. galagr

    galagr Well-Known Member

  10. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    A little off-topic:

    The forum feels like it's gotten a little different in the past while. Is it just me? Everyone is still great, but it's missing that wackiness and hilariousness that it was like when I joined, and was also missing before I even joined.

    Where did it all go?
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  11. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    It IS missing that wackiness.
  12. Mo Frackle

    Mo Frackle Well-Known Member

    It definitely seemed to be wackier during the Muppets' darker days (prior to the 'Renaissance', if you will). It could be that a lot of older members have left/rarely post these days. Or maybe we've all gotten too serious in the last few such-and-suchs? I sure miss the wackiness (which is why I tend to hang out in the Crazy thread; I try to stay away from the drama around here). Heck, the ToughPigs forum is wackier than MC these days.
  13. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    I can certainly see how it can get kind of old but you just have to sort through it. Whenever I visit the MC forums I always click on the What's New? button. There's always a bunch of threads that I have no interest in. But I simply ignore those and sift through them to get to the ones I am interested in. Would it be easier for me if those threads weren't there? Certainly, much easier. But why should I get to determine whose thread stays and who's gets deleted. Same thing with posts in threads. Sometimes you have to sort through the chaff to get to the wheat.
  14. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    Well then something must be done, We must start throwing muffins at folks once again!
  15. galagr

    galagr Well-Known Member

    I've found that members (including myself) have gotten much more sarcastic as of late.
  16. D'Snowth

    D'Snowth Well-Known Member

    That happens over time.

    Looking back, MC now isn't the same as it was, say, at the turn of the decade... and even then, it wasn't the same as it was back from like 2005 to maybe 2008. And THEN, it was the same as it was back from day one to 2005.

    The major consensus with many of the old timers who aren't here anymore is that MC has gotten to "high school" in recent years, in that there's far too much drama among the forum that kind of ruins the fun atmosphere of it.

    From my own experiences, I can say that MC did seem a lot more carefree, laid back, and relaxed, but I think that's mostly due to the more active members at that time (myself included) were mostly teenagers who not only had more freetime, but also had little to no responsibility... now that group has grown up, are out in the real world, have responsibility and such, so they're pretty much gone now. At the same time, however, there was a period of time, I'd say maybe from 2009 to 2011 or so, there was a lot of "high school" drama on MC: people whining about nobody liking them, people complaining they feel MC was a popularity contest they were losing, so on and so forth. That's kind of calmed down in the last couple of years, but now we have this... if it's not one thing, it's another, and it didn't used to be this way.

    EDIT: Daaaaang! I just got ziffeled FIVE TIMES! :eek:
  17. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    Unwraps blueberry muffin, slingshots it at dwayne1115.
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  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Too add to the discussion...

    We seem to forget the biggest problem was drudging up 5-10 year old posts to add nothing to the conversation. Not even conversation. And to make matters worse, it was always the same member. One that was reported multiple times, no less and STILL managed to keep repeating the same behavior.

    My personal favorite was his response to a thread asking if anyone had any behind the scenes stories for Follow that Bird. Wanna know what his reply was?

    "i dont"

    Now, imagine if you asked that question. You see a response, you're excited. Then you see nonsense. If you can't answer a question, you shouldn't answer it.

    Then there was the member that obsessively posted the same threads with the same exact message about one specific Sesame Street skit... each within barely a week of each other. He got better, though.

    Once again, all we're saying is we need to do something about drudging up old posts with nothing to add to the conversation, especially about long dormant projects. It's not about being "rude" or "arrogant," it's about having to take some sort of action on something we shouldn't have to take action against because it's basic internet etiquette. The action I've suggested was cleaning out old threads that haven't been posted on for X amount of years (a generous 5 year minimum). If you want to talk about a subject that's not visible on the first few forum pages, there's no problem starting a new conversation about the same topic (just not 3 or 4 times in a single week period).

    Sure, in a silly thread a goofy one word response shouldn't be shunned. But when you see a thread started by a member who hasn't been active since 2005 brought back up for a "yay big bird" response, it really shouldn't be there. Then again, I suspect the guy is a troll. Or nuts. I still remember the well over a dozen posts he made on a single Carvel commercial. Almost creepy, obsessive stalkery stuff.
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  19. dwayne1115

    dwayne1115 Well-Known Member

    There dose seem to be a lot of tension, and stiffness to the forums. We need a party! Dose anyone remember the Christmas party that we did I think a year or two ago? Fun times.
  20. MuppetsRule

    MuppetsRule Well-Known Member

    Well I can certainly be on-board with locking old threads. But MC is not unique to this problem. Perhaps though that instead of deleting posts or being offended by them we take the time to gently educate the poster. It may be basic internet etiquette to you or I but maybe it isn't to that poster. Maybe he's just inexperienced in forums.

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