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Caped Crusader: New Batman Film Rumors

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by frogboy4, Aug 25, 2008.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    There have been older people (sometimes in their late teens, early 20's) who have acted that GTA is real... my understanding is that if you're not mature or intellegent enough to distinguish between reality and fiction, you shouldn't be exposed to any fiction. And if you're still having that conflict at an older age, you need professional help.

    But back on the subject... I really see a "Batman Begins" style Robin as a younger boy who's blood thirsty for revenge (similar to Batman) after the murder of his parents, and winds u[p coming very close to getting himself killed until batman intervenes and takes him under his wing. Though, i'd prefer NO Robin.

    As for Batgirl... well, if you look at the Dark Knight closely, Gordon's wife is holding 2 children closely. You only see the boy... but you just can make the girl out. She's the one that becomes Batgirl, right? Unless the next film takes place 10 years or so in the future, BatGirl wouldn't even fit in.
  2. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Right on the money. The problem is that because such people exist, parents complain, and so, as a result, even people who do know said difference often have to suffer because of the idiocy of some people.
  3. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    Maybe it's not so much that all those people thought the games were real as it is they were just play acting like it was real and something went wrong? It happens a lot in places like colleges mixed with a lot of drinking IMHO :(
  4. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    And this is where play acting goes too far (take for example, people performing pro wrestling moves on each could result in serious injury or even death).
    And this is why I don't drink.
  5. Teheheman

    Teheheman Well-Known Member

    I don't drink either, but I encourage all women to drink til I look good, just don't get alcohol poisoning ;)

  6. Winslow Leach

    Winslow Leach Active Member

    Ratner Talks Batman

    I found this little tidbit at joblo.com, concerning director Brett Ratner (Rush Hour, Red Dragon) and the future of the franchise:

    "As a kid, Batman was my thing...I'm a little jealous that I didn't get to direct it, although Nolan did a great job. But there are so many characters in the Batman series, so many characters that I love, that the opportunities for spinoffs are endless."

    Ratner thinks that the first one should be a film just about the Joker, exploring his (possible) origins as the Red Hood. "That would be really cool...Heath was great...But the Joker is a great villain. That's why Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger had so much to work with. And I think there will be another actor who can interpret that. It would be great to see Robert Downey Jr. as the Joker, for instance."


    Okay...Ratner says there are so many characters in Batman's universe, and that "spinoffs" are endless...and he wants to start with the Joker?

    Of course this is a fanboy director talking of a dream project, but still...

    I'm not much of a Ratner fan. His track record:

    Money Talks (with Chris Tucker and Charlie Sheen)

    The Rush Hour films

    The Family Man (with Nicolas Cage)

    Red Dragon (the prequel to The Silence of the Lambs & Hannibal, which was already made by Michael Mann as Manhunter, but with a much smaller-name cast and budget)

    X-Men: the Last Stand

    Ratner is currently in production on a remake of The Incredible Shrinking Man starring Eddie Murphy. Wonder how much of Richard Matheson's novel, or the 1957 film will be retained...aside from the shrinking man, of course, lol.
  7. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    *crosses fingers in direction of 3rd X-Men movie*
    Good gravy, anything but a Batman movie like that, please! :(
  8. Winslow Leach

    Winslow Leach Active Member

    Of course, Downey is a fantastic actor. I'd like to see him as a Bat villain...maybe The Mad Hatter?
  9. Winslow Leach

    Winslow Leach Active Member

    According to imdb (I know, I know...) Ratner is slated to direct Mr. S. - My Life with Frank Sinatra, starring Chris Tucker.

    This is based on the book of the same name by George Jacobs, who was Sinatra's long-time valet.
  10. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I have always thought that an Arkham Asylum movie would be ideal. You could potentially get everybody in there, but maybe just a few per movie. No actual Batman needed for that. The focus could be on the criminals and the Joker has always been the lightning rod for all of them so he'd need to be in it. There is such a video game in the works and it looks fantastic!

    I don't think the fine performances from Ledger or Nicholson warrant retiring the Joker from film, but I am in favor of allowing Nolan's Joker fade from view in his pictures. There are creative ways around it, but I don’t think enough of the public would accept a recast in this telling.

    One thing I am not in favor of is telling too much about the Joker's true origins. The bulk of that should always remain a mystery. Not everything needs to be spelled out in black and white for the masses. The imagination is much better than what could be devised by any screenwriter. As much as I enjoyed Hannibal Rising, not even the book's author could provide a backstory worthy of such a frightening legacy - and he did come up with some creepy stuff!
  11. Winslow Leach

    Winslow Leach Active Member

    Oh, I'm fine with the Joker eventually returning in another film sometime down the line...I was surprised that Ratner, supposedly a true Bat-fan, would start "his" franchise with such a familiar, recognizable and iconic character. Especially after Heath Ledger's astounding performance. Batman's rogues gallery is rich with villains...why not start with someone who hasn't appeared yet?

    I always thought Crispin Glover would make an excellent Joker myself, but after seeing TDK, it's hard to imagine anyone else in the role (for now anyway) but Heath Ledger.

    I agree that origin stories aren't always necessary. I liked that we didn't know much (if anything) about the Joker's true origins in Nolan's film, and how he would change his story every time he asked, "wanna know how I got these scars?"

    As for Hannibal Rising, it was a good read and a pretty good film, but Thomas Harris didn't really need to tell us how and why Lecter became Lecter.
  12. MrsPepper

    MrsPepper Active Member

    Um, can we keep this guy away from Batman, please? He already destroyed X-Men for me.

    (The things in bold are what made me think to myself, "Wow, what a bad idea!" For the record I like The Family Man... but Batman is NOT a Family man! >_<)
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Oh no! No no no no no! No way! Uh Uh!

    Personally, unless Nolan really really really wants to do another Batman after the Caped Crusader (or even the Caped Crusader itself), I think we should put the character away for a little while and focus on something else. We're gonna wind up with someone either doing their own thing out of step with Nolan, or someone trying hard to be Nolan, but not being able to measure up...

    If there's one thing I don't wanna see is a Batman and Robin style camp fest trying to continue the story line of Batman Begins.
  14. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Ratner's X-Men film didn't bother me as much as it did others. It really should have been done correctly and as two films. That way the Pheonix personas could have adequately been separated and more complex plot points wouldn't have needed to be slapped together. That way it would have been more satisfying to core fans while giving moviegoers another flashy X-movie.

    Ratner has stated that he’d have rather helmed Singer’s Superman movie. I don’t know why that gets such bad press. It turned a profit internationally, but it was just so needlessly expensive and long. A sharper focus, tighter budget and shorter running time would have saved Singer’s Superman a lot of grief. We’d likely be awaiting the sequel to it by now if not for all the time spent referencing the Reeve films. Ratner says he would have focused on the life and politics of Krypton. Interesting, but not necessarily super enough for the character’s return. I’m still concerned over the Man of Steel sequel vs. the total reboot trilogy idea. I’m just glad the Justice League film was nixed. That could have put all the DC characters in limbo for a long time.

    I do think that comics/graphic novels have the distinct opportunity to follow vastly different tellings of the same characters while maintaining strong brand identity in a way that film cannot. I do think there's enough juice to at least explore Arkham while this other stuff is going on as long as the Bat doesn't make an official appearance. Maybe that's where they could stick Robin! Maybe Batgirl too. But definitely Harley Quinn! :flirt:
  15. ryhoyarbie

    ryhoyarbie Well-Known Member

    Wait! You did not like the beginning of Batman and Robin where they're putting on their suits and the camera is showing their behinds? :confused::eek:

    Okay, I didn't either.......
  16. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    I've been pegged to play the role of Poison Ivy in the next Batman movie!

    Of course not, but it's all interesting news and I can't wait to see where they take the film next time. I thing The Dark Knight is going to be HARD to top. Sadly, Heath Ledger is the ONLY person who ever got the character of The Joker right!

    I'm very interested to see where Nolan takes the Bat next, because I've been uber impressed with his work so far!
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Maybe it's because I caught them on television, but the 2 X-Men movies I saw didn't leave an impression on me at all. It's not that they were bad, but just not as good as the hype set it up to be.
    A Justice League movie would be all sorts of corny. I think if Paul Dini wrote the script, and they worked closely with others who worked on the cartoon series, it may warrent fans to go see it... but the only was a JLA movie will really make money is if they directly animate it and release it theatrically.
  18. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    The X-Men fims are actually really good. The first one is too short to really get things going, the second one is a lot of movie that's maybe a beat or two too long, and the third one tries to jam too much into it that character motivations and continuity miss the mark. Seeing any of those films edited for the small screen and jammed between ads for zit cream and soda pop does not do any of them justice. Singer actually directed the first two. The direction they are going in now with the individual character films is probably the way to go. So is the new cartoon. Has anyone seen the trailer for it? Wow! It's not a DVDtoon it's an actual series!

    Anyway, I digress. It appears that Johnny Depp is already pegged to be Tim Burton's Mad Hatter in his live action & CGI version of Alice in Wonderland. I don't think that would conflict with any Batman schedule as it appears that will take some time for momentum. I doubt that we'll hear much until around or after the Oscar season. I still hope Depp is cast as the Riddler.
  19. Winslow Leach

    Winslow Leach Active Member

    Depp certainly has a full plate ahead of him.

    He signed on for three Disney films: Alice in Wonderland, Pirates of the Carribean 4 and The Lone Ranger, which will be produced by Jerry Bruckheimer. But Depp isn't playing the Ranger. He's actually been cast as the Ranger's sidekick, Tonto.

    There's also a rumor that Tim Burton wants to direct an adaptation of the 1960s gothic soap opera Dark Shadows, with Depp as vampire Barnabas Collins.

    I'm really looking forward to Michael Mann's Public Enemies, based on the excellent non-fiction book by Bryan Burrough. The book chronicles the crime spree in the early 1930s, in which John Dillinger, Baby Face Nelson, Pretty Boy Floyd, Bonnie and Clyde, Machine Gun Kelly and the Barker Gang all rose to infamy, and gave birth to the modern FBI, headed by J. Edgar Hoover.

    Depp is Dillinger, Billy Crudup is Hoover, Channing Tatum is Pretty Boy Floyd, and Christian Bale is Melvin Purvis, Hoover's #1 crime-busting golden boy.

    Then there's The Rum Diary, based on Hunter S. Thompson's 1959 novel. This film has been rumored for years, with Depp playing Thompson. Of course, he already played the good doctor in Terry Gilliam's faithful adaptation of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, in which Depp did a spot-on portrayal of Thompson (or rather his alter ego, Raoul Duke). The film co-starred Benicio Del Toro as Duke's attorney, "Dr. Gonzo," and Del Toro is rumored to direct The Rum Diary.

    Hopefully in between all this, Depp will sign on as The Riddler, if indeed Mr. Nygma is to appear in the next Batman film...
  20. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    Oh wow-oh wow! The new X-Men cartoon looks so purrrrrddy! It's so shiny... *Drools vehemently*:insatiable:

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