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Discussion in 'Muppet Babies' started by JJandJanice, Mar 22, 2006.

  1. Tim

    Tim Member

    I may still have to original TV Guide ad for it someplace. They pretty much ripped off the idea from "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" mixing up all the characters like that. It ran aon all threee Networks at the same time that Saturday morning-quite an event for it's time. I thought it was cool that they all knew each other no matter which Network or Studio they were from.

    I saw it available on VHS years ago in educational media catalogs. Probably long out of print, but it might be a place to try to get a copy.
  2. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    Whoa, that was totally out there man, but I liked it.:D
  3. Infinity Sirius

    Infinity Sirius New Member

    What's the "Too Smart for Strangers" special about?
  4. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Active Member

    I can't seem to play it. Can someone tell me which video player would work with this video? I have pretty much all the video players but none of them work for me. signed Help me please.
  5. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    Well, I played it on Windows Media Player.
  6. G-MAN

    G-MAN Active Member

    "Too Smart For Strangers" was an educational special featuring the cast of Welcome To Pooh Corner (now why don't they put that show on DVD). In it, the characters talked about the warning signs of strangers, and how you should be careful around people you don't know, and of course to tell a grownup if someone bothers you. Pooh, Tigger, Roo, and I think Rabbit had the most screentime. A cool thing they used was they showed segments in which real kids showed you how you were supposed to act while the character would narrate in the background
  7. MustangRockstar

    MustangRockstar New Member

    I remember the media push this received back in the day. This was a continuation of the 80's/Reagan war on drugs campaign. It was actually a brilliantly conceived plan: make a cartoon featuring many of the top cartoon characters of the time, feature the President and First Lady (unheard of) and there you go.

    It was a great PR move for everyone involved and though at times hokey, the end product was very well done.

    I remember watching this over and over and over again in elementary school. It seemed like whenever we had a rainy day we'd either end up watching Disney's The Story of Little Toot or this during recess.

    From an adult perspective and with a little bit of hindsight, this was probably the begining of the end for those saturday morning cartoons and it was really the begining of the end for the syndicated weekday cartoons.

    Around 91, things really started to change. Networks convinced themselves they'd make more money by showing news programs (and while they did it was fairly marginal). The cartoons of the 1980's animation revival (Muppet Babies, Ducktales, etc.) were slowly ending their runs and being phased out by cheaper, faster, easier animation again. Cartoons in general were being replaced by live action shows which were cheaper to produce. Kids of the 80's were growing up and moving on and the younger generations were more into video games and cable tv than a network saturday morning block.

    From there you lost a lot of shows and really the last two holdouts were Garfield and Ninja Turtles, the latter of which became a shell of it's former self around 1992/93.

    The last gasp of air (which was really around 95-97 when Garfield and Turtles finally packed it in) was really all started around the time of this cartoon. Not because of it, but shortly afterwards.

    So as I DL this I'll remember not only watching it as a little kid, but also with a sense of sadness that this was kind of the last hurrah for both the 80's, animation of that style and in many ways the begining of the end of my childhood.
  8. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    You said it well.
  9. MustangRockstar

    MustangRockstar New Member

    The downfall of Saturday morning cartoons is such an interesting subject. Years later it still doesn't make sense to me, but life seldom does.
  10. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    I think networks have caused this upon themselves by putting on low quality programming, and the viewers, turned the channel.
  11. MustangRockstar

    MustangRockstar New Member

    I dunno, I think it was a combination of things.

    1. Cable took a HUGE part of their audience away. Cable networks also didn't have the limitations that networks had (censors, money, etc.)

    2. A lot of the FCC regulations designed to "protect" kids from programs built around toys and merchandise actually hurt the market. The profit margins for kids cartoons are slim enough, when you cut down on potential ad dollars you've taken away the networks only lifeline for those shows.

    3. Kids changed. They'd wake up and play video games or their schedules would be so jammed packed that there just wasn't room for the cartoons anymore.

    4. Society changed. The 80's were in many ways a return to a more positive outlook in the U.S. But once it came to an end, the 90's were a pretty "depressing" time. We were the most depressed "rich" nation in history. That trickled down to children. Cartoons were lame, their messages stupid. Kids just weren't allowed to be little kids anymore. 8 year olds now act like they are teenagers.

    People didn't want their kids watching cartoons after school, that'd cut into their Oprah and Rikki Lake time. Sad but true.

    5. Networks got greedy. They additional money they make is marginal with the more adult programming. Somewhere some overpaid CEO who got his job by kissing enough butt not to get eaten alive further down the food chain became the head TV guru. He was going to "reinvent" the wheel and it didn't work. 90% of the world's population think they are special and creative and will change the world. About 1% are really capable of that and they usually get eaten alive by the 90% who think they are the 1%.
  12. crazed gonzo fa

    crazed gonzo fa Active Member

    I know what you mean by that. It get so annoyed when I hear kids younger than me say "I'm a mature guy, I got a girlfriend, blah,blah,blah...".:mad: :rolleyes: :crazy:
  13. Kimp the Shrimp

    Kimp the Shrimp Active Member

    real nice show
  14. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    I totally agree with you about the cable thing. I also think that one of the reasons was a lack of quality cartoon programming on the broadcast networks. They sort of underestimated their audience and the kids who were watching could tell the difference, and if cable was giving better choices at the time, the audience simply moved on.
  15. Brinatello

    Brinatello New Member

    I recently watched "Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue" at YouTube. Oh, whoa, it was an instant flashback to my childhood! It's cheesy in a lot of ways, but it worked for its time. I loved seeing all of my favorite characters rolled into one show. Er, however, the pressuring from them about "Drugs are bad!" was a little uncomfortable. If you do drugs, your favorite cartoons stars will chase you down and show you a bunch of scary stuff!
  16. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Active Member

    That's right so don't do drugs, lol.

    I can totally understand what you guys are talking about with the Saturday 80's shows. Once the 90's came in, kids were more into acting older than their age, I have a sister who is still in many ways like that. Once Saved by the Bell become a hit tv show, that was just about the end of cartoons. Than Nick had their games show like Double Dare and Nick Arcade, even Ninja Turtles tried to stay on the map by making that god-awful, Next Mutatian (spelling) crap. Anyone remember how horrible the girl ninja turtle looked, oh man, whoes bright idea was it to make her look like a girl have having a braded mask? Plus as mention already, once the 90's did start, although most of the shows were live, the new Saturday cartoons show just were horrible. I remember some show on Fox, that looked like it was drawn by a 3 year old. These cartoons had no messages for kids and were just insluting for kids in many ways.

    Plus as also mention the 80s were more of a happy time, where as the 90's were more depressing. This was seen anywhere on just on TV, but you can also look at music. Look what was really big in the 80's, mostly hair glam metal bands, like Poison and Winger and so on and so fourth. All of these bands had a lot in common, but the number one thing was just having a good time. They would sing about girls and partys and umm girls. Than in the 90's came in Niranva and the "grudge" bands. They never sang about girls and partys, they would mostly sing about depressing and sad stuff, and people brought it. Things change.
  17. crazed gonzo fa

    crazed gonzo fa Active Member

    Well,IMHO the 80's seemed to have a more darker tone with movies. Also, two awesome shows from the 90's: "Bump in the Night" and "Gargoyles"!:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
  18. Brinatello

    Brinatello New Member

    The 90's had some good weekly afternoon shows. What about "Tiny Toon Adventures," "Batman: The Animated Series," "Animaniacs," or even the Disney Afternoon time slot? It seems as though all the good stuff moved from Saturday morning to the afternoon during the week. I was fortunate to get off from school at 2:45 so that I could watch them all when I got home!

    As for "Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation," I'd have to admit it was that show that brought me back into being a devoted TMNT fan. When I started to lose interest in the cartoon during 1995-96, I wasn't sure if I would ever be a fan again! The most I kept active with the fandom was the Archie comics. I LOVE Chris Allan's artwork and the storylines kept me wanting more. By the time TNM rolled around in the fall of 1997, I was excited to see the Turtles back on television. I watched and taped every episode until Fox started screwing up the airdates. I missed a lot due to that, but I didn't feel the show was too bad. But, I know, many people absolutely HATED the show, and for reasons I can understand.

    From the show, I met two stars at different conventions. At the 1999 Botcon in MN, I met Scott McNeil who played the villain, Bonesteel. Under all that make-up and costume, he is one HOT guy! Then, in 2000 at the Motor City Comic Con in MI, I met Mitch Lee Yuen who was the actor inside the Raphael costume.

    Friends of mine have been meeting the VA's of the TNM turtles since a lot of them have been on Anime shows. They go to Anime conventions, mostly on the east coast.
  19. ILuVERNIE

    ILuVERNIE New Member

    I really don't remember any of the cartoons except for Bugs and Daffy! But, anyway it was a nice specialle! lol
  20. Dominicboo1

    Dominicboo1 Well-Known Member

    The characters I grew up with were Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, and Pooh and Tigger so I bet you can imagine how upset I was when I saw Smoke (the drugs) throw Pooh into the cupboard. (really upsetting)

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