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Fraggle DVD coming this summer in the US

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by Phillip, Jun 18, 2004.

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Let HIT know how much would you would pay for a 24-episode Fraggle season box set.

Poll closed Sep 16, 2004.
  1. I'd pay up to $39 per box set

    39 vote(s)
    39.4%
  2. I'd pay up to $59 per box set

    35 vote(s)
    35.4%
  3. I'd pay $79 or higher for a box set

    20 vote(s)
    20.2%
  4. I wouldn't buy a box set at any price

    5 vote(s)
    5.1%
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  1. jediX

    jediX Active Member

    Sorry to go off topic for a sec here, but just to clarify, Garfield & Friends (which is what I presume your disc is of, right?) season 1 is slated to come out July 27.
  2. Oliver

    Oliver New Member

    And those were also older television specials, not episodes derived from the later 1988 season broadcasts. It's irrelevant to anything in context...


    As far as the whole "testing the waters" issue... for the sake of monotonous repetition, I've already covered that ground - The consumers have spoken, it's a marketable and viable prospect, there's just no need for these cheap discs, it's careless cut-rate business practice and absolutely futile!

    Someone mentioned earlier that the only demographic that HIT! is aware in regards to the demand for Fraggle Rock on DVD is that of the internet fanboys... that's just ridiculous!

    To begin with, the internet is a significant medium as it covers a global venue and is not biased to any specific social standing or classification. It's the year 2004, everybody uses the internet.

    Nevermind the over abundance of Muppet/FR related websites or even the dedicated DVD / home theatre forums and messageboards which constantly bring this into discussion though... Just living in and experiencing the daily routines of "the real world", I'm sure would place most if not all of us in a position to judge and discern for ourselves that the demand is out there! Of the hundreds of people we encounter each day, I'm sure we'd all be able to exemplify at least one or two who, if made aware of such a release, would be in line to purchase!

    We are currently experiencing a heavy 80's revival in pop culture right now and if any time is right to market such a release, it's now! FR has been featured everywhere from VH1 retrospectives to "retro-fashioned" t-shirt and mesh hat designs to countless online topic discussions, various unrelated pop-culture and entertainment websites and blogs, etc. At the simple click of a mouse you will happen upon THOUSANDS of FR related websites, polls, petitions through any random Google search.

    Gord Lacey sent me the statistics from the literally tens of thousands of registered users at his website, TVShowsOnDVD.com, who've voted in favor of SEASON BOX SETS of Fraggle Rock and the numbers speak for themselves. I don't remember the exact proportion, but a whopping magnitude had stated that they would straight-out REFUSE to purchase FR discs in any other context.

    With all due respect, those who have posted in defense of HIT!'s cheap and questionable practices and claim that they will undoubtedly support any Fraggle releases which surface, ironically exhibit themselves much closer to those alleged "fanboy" extremists so often mentioned, than the rest of us who are willing to challenge and criticize second rate merchandise and business practices in favor of a quality product worthy of regard and our spending...

    The proposed tactics HIT! suggests do not boast well in favor of what all of us... and everybody in general... have been asking for years now.

    The Disney approach has seen it's time. Our economy is dependant on us, we the consumers. We fund the ventures, our money goes back into the companies in order to churn out more products so that we can spend even more. It's a cycle, that doesn't work if it's only one-sided. If a company's only focus is monetary gain, and we the spenders are not shown adequate respect and appreciation for giving such companies a reason to exist... they won't!

    It's clear what everyone wants... but from what little is known right now, it's not what we're getting. So I'm supposed to be thankfull and "hope" that something better comes along by supporting insufficent and thoughtless output?

    No. I will pay for something when it's worthy of my spending, not in "hopes" of something better.

    As it stands, single 2-episode releases do not fair well for "something better" when using good judgement, as we only stand to see more individual discs to keep in format of previous issues. Anything else would render earlier pressings obsolete. Would anyone argue that a relatively new company would not see benefit in doing that to their stock?

    I'm anything but a "fanboy", in fact I hardly post at this forum unless matters relevant to me such as new releases, etc prompt me, but it's about using better judgement and being responsible consumers, not being so eager to accept whatever it is that's marketed...

    I hope something more positive comes of all this, as it stands, I will not be giving HIT! any of my money for what they are offering...
  3. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    But under that same token, Palisades would lose a ton of money if they didn't test the waters with a few Mega Muppets figures and had jumped right in there and, based on the fact that everyone wanted them, made a whole line of Mega Muppets. Because, tons of the Animal and Beaker Megas went on sale, and as far as website direct sales of Camilla, which everyone wanted, isn't selling as well as it should (even though I've bought 2).

    The thing is that even though all of America shouts "Give it to me!" they won't buy like they say they will. We all want Fraggle Rock, chronological DVD sets, but until they're for SURE we're gonna buy it, they don't want to put up the money for items that Blockbuster is going to be selling for $5.00 down the road.

    I do understand what you mean about being a conscientious consumer, though, becasue as much as I love Muppets or Ghostbusters, or Blues Brothers or Peanuts, I won't buy something just for the franchise name, but how good of a quality it is. I'm picky, too; but, if what I see is something I "THINK" will help the marketing of something I want, I'll support it as best I can.

    That, and we don't know of any releases that state that HIT! is going to release 5 volumes of 2-episode DVDs. They're only issuing one DVD with 2 ep's on it, and that's it. Everything else is just rumors.
  4. Oliver

    Oliver New Member

    Well I do agree that until a press release has been announced, we shouldn't jump to conclusions but comparing toy merchandise, figures, dolls, etc to DVD sets is really groundless for many obvious reasons which I won't delve into.

    If FR episodes were effectively remastered and presented with nice, clean transfers audio & video wise, in chronological season sets with perhaps an interview or two, there'd really be nothing but positive remarks to come. People WOULD definitely buy them.

    I guess we should all wait to see what HIT! plans to do before jumping the gun, but contacting them with this sort of constructive criticism might prove effective...
  5. Kitten

    Kitten New Member

  6. King Prawn

    King Prawn New Member

    I have this one, it's the first ever FR DVD released, Unfortunatley for many it was only released on R2. It contains 12 episode on 2-disks.

    Hope this helped :)
  7. a_Mickey_Muppet

    a_Mickey_Muppet Well-Known Member


    Ohhhhh Man this is soooooooooo cool! I loved Fraggle Rock, i remmeber seenin it on the Disney channel back in the day! :smirk: I will deff be buyin the DVD when it hits the store, i had to live on 2 FR video tapes that Disney put out back in 93, they are Vol 3. The Fraggles search & find and Vol 4. The Haunting of castle Gorg. I use to watch the Castle Gorg one EVERY day in October for Halloween like crazy. i havnt popped one in the ol VCR since.....since...... :confused: forever, i think i gonna watch one now! bye... la la la la down in fraggle rock, ... :excited:
  8. McFraggle

    McFraggle Active Member

    Certainly agree with you here Kevin.
  9. Muppet Crypts

    Muppet Crypts New Member

    It will all be fine Just Breath and it will all be fine
  10. Gobo_Tron2

    Gobo_Tron2 Member

    I hate to bit nitpicky (I'll definately be buying the DVD anyway to give HIT some incentive), but why release only 2 episodes on a DVD? I completely understand the economic logic in doing this with VHS tapes, since when those are made only the amount of magenetic tape needed to fit the content on is used in the tape - thus saving the company lots of money in the long run. But this doesn't make sense on a form of media that uses the same amount of physical material no matter how much or how little data you place on it. Does HIT have to pay royalty to Henson per every episode they put on the DVD?
  11. anathema

    anathema Active Member

    More episodes = more time involved in authoring the disc. Professional DVD authoring is a time-consuming business - believe me, I know!

    But yes, the more shows they put out, the more it will cost them more in royalties.
  12. Oliver

    Oliver New Member

    No, HIT! does not pay any royalties to the Jim Henson company if they have purchased a licensing contract to the series, which as far as I'm aware, they have. I believe they now own full distribution and merchandising rights, and possibly production consent as well though I'm not sure what the contracts between the companies stipulated...

    The authoring, mastering and restoration = more time, effort and money.

    This is where my main objection with this project lies. If they are not willing to invest the time and effort to give the consumers what they've been asking for, well... I've said it all before.
  13. Gobo_Tron2

    Gobo_Tron2 Member

    The other question I'm still waiting for (gonna find out whan that first DVD is on the shelves) is whether or not the editors are going to decide to get... creative. "Hmm... this scene isn't really needed." I don't want another Tristar-butcher incident.
  14. anathema

    anathema Active Member

    They will have to pay what are called 'residuals' to the performers. These are based on screen time.
  15. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

  16. petrieboy

    petrieboy Member

    Thank you Oliver! You said everything I feel and more.
    I always pictured Fraggle Rock coming to dvd in a hard foam "rock" box set with every season crammed in. I imagined that the extras would include every episode of the short-lived Fraggle Rock animated series that came on Saturday mornings. This is far from what I had pictured.
  17. Gobo_Tron2

    Gobo_Tron2 Member

    Exactly - why bother buying the rights to it if they're just going to sit on it and not do anything with it? Then again it's not their fault that NOW of all times, Walmart is deciding to a jerk and ruin their day. Is Henson about to get bummed out by bad timing AGAIN?
  18. Foodie

    Foodie Active Member


    Why can't you guys have some form of patience about this whole thing? None of you know how this is gonna work out.

    And is there anyway to stop getting email notices about this thread? I'm getting sick of all the whining.

    Nick :smirk:
  19. Gobo_Tron2

    Gobo_Tron2 Member

    Hiiiiiissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss...............

    (decided to do something other than whine :p )
  20. Boober_Gorg

    Boober_Gorg Active Member

    My sentiments exactly. Thank goodness each email has a bottom link that you can click on to unsubscribe to the thread.


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