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Muppets Are A Bad Influence

Discussion in 'Classic Muppets' started by Fozzie Bear, Jul 11, 2003.

  1. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Active Member

    whoops Mr.Penguin I might have confused you, yes I know about Petunia Pig, but I was talking about the baby Looney Tunes cartoon show, in the show there is a baby female pig, but her name is not petunia, I forgot her name but she was just made for this show to add another female character in, just like what Seekter is to the Muppet babies. If they needed another female they just should have used a baby Petunia Pig rather then making a new female pig character. also another female bird character was made for the baby Looney Tunes cartoon show. They could have used other versions of Looney Tune characters for females inculding She Devil (female Taz), Penolpe the cat (Pepe Lewpeu's chasing buddy) as well as Petunia Pig, they should have added more classic Looney Tunes as baby's as regulers on show such as Wile E Coyote, Road Runner, Elmer Fudd, Foghorn Leghorn ect...

    Zack)Rowlf the, why to I feel like i'm talking about Miss Piggy now?Dog.
  2. Hat Sharpener

    Hat Sharpener New Member

    Seinfeld Babies

    The great thing is that the Muppets themselves made fun of this phenomenon (doo-doo, da doo-doo) in Muppets Tonight! with the Seinfeld Babies sketch.

    And for those of you trying to compile a definitive story of the Muppets, Gonzo himself has a tape of Muppet Babies in the episode, which means (to me) that the Muppet Babies are really just an animated what-if that was produced by the Muppets themselves, or that enigmatic group associated originally run by some guy named Jim Henson to whom they refer occassionally. ;)

    - Derek
  3. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    But THEN what they did contradicted that: they had film footage in Muppets Family Christmas.
  4. Mr.Penguin

    Mr.Penguin Member

    Yea. Something's wrong with that.
    (thanks for clearing that up for me, Zack. You're right about the Baby
    Looney Tunes though.)

    - :zany:
  5. Hat Sharpener

    Hat Sharpener New Member

    Oh yeah... darn. You're right! I'd forgotten about that... Oh well, so much for continuity...

    Anyone seen Red Dwarf? There's an actual TV show that rewrites its own history time after time... What it all comes down to is - what's entertaining is what matters - none of these Star Trek/Wars encyclopedic plot manuals... (though "entertaining" may be arguable for some of the later Red Dwarf seasons)

    - Derek
  6. Mr.Penguin

    Mr.Penguin Member

    Hey Zack! Another baby show is coming. Baby Felix the Cat.

    - :D
  7. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Baby Fe--NO! NO NO NO!!!
  8. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Active Member

    LOL! maybe we shouldn't have started this thread!!LOL;-)

    baby Felix huh? I really liked that Twisted Tale's of Felix the cat cartoon show that came out back in the 90's, also the movie! I gotta find that on video or DVD!

    but baby Felix? I think there is Baby Beddy Boop stuff out now too! then we'll get Popeye babies, and smurf Babies and Jeston babies and Pink Pather babies, the list goes on! :)

    what about SIMPSON BABIES?!?!?!?

    ZACK)Rowlf the, ahhhhhhhhhh! Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle Babies?!?!?!Dog.
  9. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member


    Glad to see the Rowlf avatar back!

    Don't forget that...well, probably before you were born (I forget how OLD I am now :sleep: )...there was Popeye and Son, Pink Panther and Son, and a few other shows with "and son" attached.

    I don't think we'll see Jetsons babies because Elroy and Judy were important to that program. Hanna-Barbera/Warner Bros. would be STOO-PIT! to do a show like that.

    Then again, they did Flintstone Kids, Tom and Jerry Kids, A Pup Named Scooby Doo...

  10. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Active Member

    HEY kevin! Thanks for comenting on my old arvatar, i'm sick of this pic, but i feel more reconised here with it.

    as for Popeye, I do remember cartoons in which he had 4 look a like sons...or he was there uncle, but i think they called him pop? lol hey Pop!...eye!

    I don't remember Pink Pather and son, but I did just think of another babies show, after the movie "Little Shop of Horros" came out the Frank Oz one, belive it or not but Fox had a show called Little shop babies (I think that was the name) with semore, adray and the densit as kids as well as the plant which was kinda good and helped Semore out in the show.

    Zack)Rowlf the, how about Muppet Central and Tough Piggy babies?Dog.
  11. Mr.Penguin

    Mr.Penguin Member

    Popeye had 4 nephews. In an earlier cartoon he only had 3.
  12. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    I remembr Pepeye, Pipeye, and Poopeye (or whatever their names are). Those were in the earlier cartoons.

    Lots of characters have nephews and nieces:
    Donald Duck- Huey, Dewey and Louie
    Daisy Duck- April, May, June
    Mickey Mouse- Morty and Ferdie

    Okay, so lots of Disney Characters have nephews and nieces..

    Anyways, Zack, it was just called Little Shop, and it STUNK! I couldn't even watch it because it was too stylized for me, had they made it look more like the characters in the film, and Audrey II NOT had eyes, then I could have made it through the series. And if you're tired of your avatar, why not make a new one?
  13. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Active Member

    ahh yes so they were Popeye's nephews, well what about Sweet Pea?

    "And if you're tired of your avatar, why not make a new one?"

    Zack)Rowlf the,...Cause I don't know how?..boo hoo.. :sympathy: LOL,Dog.
  14. Mr.Penguin

    Mr.Penguin Member

    Popeye's other nephew is Pupeye. And Sweet Pea is Olive Oyl's cousin.
    (Sweet Pea, Olive OIL. These people crack me up :rolleyes: )
  15. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    You're finding out about this...right now?

    I knew this for at least 3 years.... Apparently, Baby Felix is or was Hot in Japan, and they decided to bring it over here.... for 3 years.

    I found this out from the Felix the cat comics they have out now..

    But there's another one...Pixar Babies... (hopefully this will never be a show if the Pixar brass has anything to say about it)

    I was at the Disney store to look for Nemo merchandising, and they had Babyfied dolls of Woody, Buzz Lightyear (which looks approximately like the one in the Buzz Lightyear cartoon series, when Zurg cloned the rangers, and got impatient, thus the clones were too young), James P. "Sully" Sullivan, and Mike Wazowski (which, out of all of them is the only one I'd consider good... they gave him a beany and that one eyed Teddy monster he carried around)
  16. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    I thought Swee' Pea was an orphan that Olive and Popeye found??
  17. Zack the Dog

    Zack the Dog Active Member

    I thought Olive oil was his ant,

    well anyways, I didn't know about baby Feix either, don't really care anyways, it's kinda something I don't want to know and rather keep up on the few shows that I would watch, there's hardly any TV shows I like now a days, well it's better to stay away from tv as much as you anyways I guess.
  18. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member


    Is POPEYE in the Armed Services? "AN ARMED AVOCATION??"
    (Is POPEYE Really Enlisted?)

    I cannot recount the number of times that I have been asked about POPEYE's occupation?? Our Internet page has inquiries several times per week from folks (probably enlisted) who try to claim the Ol' Salt as one of them. Navy personnel insist that POPEYE is a fellow swabby. Coast Guard workers dictate that Segar's Sailor is a comrade 'Coastie'. I'm surprised the Army hasn't jumped on the bandwagon yet, but I won't be too bewildered if they do!!

    Once again, here are the facts. Elzie Crisler Segar created a civilian seaman. The word 'sailor' does not necessarily mean that POPEYE has to represent the armed services. By definition, a sailor is a 'mariner' and/or a 'seafarer'. The sailor that Segar conceived was NOT a member of ANY military service. If you recall, the original POPEYE suited-up in denim pants and sported a yachting cap on his nobby noggin. Segar did not live long enough to experience WWII. Since he passed away in 1938, there is really no way to know how HE might have guided POPEYE through worldwide strife?? We can only speculate.

    It was the cartoon makers that replaced POPEYE's 'civies' with military attire. In 1936, a military short was produced, but a seaman's career wasn't the subject. The cartoon was titled, "I'm In the Army Now", and featured POPEYE and BLUTO attempting to join the infantry.

    In 1941, Fleischer Studios released the first in a series of 'wartime toons'. Their first attempt was titled, "The Mighty Navy". This cartoon promoted POPEYE in gob gear and contained a bit of history that you probably didn't know. Towards the conclusion of the film, POPEYE was presented with a portrait of himself. This image was used as the "official insignia of the Navy's bomber squadron". Ironically, the design displayed POPEYE in his original outfit - complete with yachting cap.

    For the remainder of WWII and beyond, POPEYE and BLUTO were formidable foes in Uncle Sam's nautical branch of the service. POPEYE was allowed to retrieve his yachting cap in one film from 1942 titled, "A Hull of a Mess". Many of these cartoons have been removed from the airwaves, because they are not considered to be 'politically correct'. Some of the titles are even considered offensive - such as, "Scrap the Japs".

    One aspect that I find particularly 'offensive' about this series was the introduction of POPEYE's pal -- 'SHORTY'. SHORTY was a shrimpy, bespectacled character - with an obnoxious voice and a personality to match. The cartoon makers must have presumed that the audiences were growing tired of BLUTO, so they concocted a character that was easily more despicable than BLUTO - with absolutely no exertion. SHORTY ranks as one of the all-time most obnoxious film creations - almost as vile as POPEYE's nephews - PIPEYE, PUPEYE, POOPEYE and PEEPEYE.

    Fortunately for the world and POPEYE, the war didn't last forever. When peacetime returned, POPEYE's active duty was sidelined, but his Navy 'whites' remained. When the theatrical cartoons first aired on television in 1956, they were a huge success. When King Features commissioned 220 new cartoons in 1960, POPEYE - again - was left in his white costume. It wasn't until 1978, when 'The All New POPEYE Hour' debuted, that Segar's Sailor was allowed to return to his original apparel - with one exception. His yachting cap was still replaced by the traditional sailor's 'dixie cup'.

    In conclusion: Sorry all you swabbys and swabettes, but E.C. Segar's 'POPEYE' will forever remain a civilian.....
    Popeye the Sailor Fan Club Site:
  19. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Having just read this about Popeye's nephews, 2 in particular, POOPEYE and PEEPEYE, have you ever noticed how vile some of the shorter characters' names are?

    Yogi Bear and Hokey Wolf had BooBoo and Dingaling, and there are others. I just thought I'd point that out, if you hadn't noticed. Aren't there others with dirty names? LOL!

  20. Mr.Penguin

    Mr.Penguin Member

    I ams what I am

    Olive once said Sweet Pea was her cousin.(I saw it in a cartoon on
    Boomerang) And for the enlisted Popeye we can sum it up like this:
    is something I'd like to say; I HATE SHORTY.

    Shorty: :sing: ...My pal Popeye!!!
    Popeye: Oops, there goes his head...

    - :smirk:

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