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Potential New Muppet Show

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by muppetlover123, Mar 13, 2012.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Just for the sake of the argument

    Production companies don't always earmark shows specifically for their own media outlets. Modern Family is produced by Fox, but it airs on Disney owned ABC. It never was like that, and it never will be. Sure, you'll see a Warner Brothers produced show on a Warner Bros network, but you'll also find them on networks owned by Fox or NBC.

    But I don't think they'd really stray too far from the Muppets, and keep them in the Disney channel family. But then again, I'd fear for my life if they were on NBC again. We'll never let how they treated JHH down.
  2. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    It should be on ABC that's Disney owned as well.
  3. DannyRWW

    DannyRWW Well-Known Member

    Maybe I'm being negative here but I think if this aired on a network this would be killed by how modern ratings are done..it is not even a matter of having high ratings it is a matter of having the rate ratings with the right demographice (Harry's law...the highest rated scripted show on NBC was cancelled because it did not have high ratings in the right demographic). I just cant see something like this working on a network...it would have to be a cable situation.... and to honest I don't want to see studio dc as a regular series... I think it would be nice to see a series of specials with the muppets on the networks...an election special would be nice
  4. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    Oh lord anything but a DC thing!!! Who knows they might not even get anywhere with it it could just be all talk. Honestly if they even consider a DC thing or Disney channel I'd rather they just do movies and occasional tv specials. "shrugs" But I'm still somewhat excited about this.
  5. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    If this moves forward I hope they don't focus too much more on new characters than old characters. I feel that was one of the mistakes The Jim Henson Hour and Muppets Tonight made (though many of those new characters are great). They should focus on as many classic characters first, and maybe slowly introduce more characters as the show progresses.

    I think it should be a sitcom about the Muppets putting on a show. They should be able to show occasional on-stage acts, but most of the time should be spent on the week-to-week process of running a show, taking place over the course of multiple shows, and maybe showing some consequences for some of the acts.

    Earlier this year I wrote a series of fan fics called "The Muppets After the Muppets", showing how I would handle a new Muppet show. I'm not expecting anybody from Disney to actually look at those, but if anybody here would like to see how I feel it should be done, search for "The Muppets After the Muppets" in the fan fiction section (I think it'd be easier to search via Google than the search engine here). I eventually stopped making new ones because I felt the time was right.
  6. catherine

    catherine Well-Known Member

    I hope they do another muppet show. I love the muppet shows, they have done and no one can replace the muppets
  7. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Ratings demographics are bull freaking crap. They always were, and they killed so many shows. Internet and goth kid who never watched it favorite Invader Zim being a famous example, Cedric the Entertainer being another.

    But even then, television networks weren't exactly kind to the Muppets before that. We know the story of how The Muppet Show happened, so I won't repeat it here. We also know how poorly JHH and MT were on network TV, so that gets by as a mention. It needs the safe environment of cable TV (as syndication doesn't exist anymore, outside of crappy daytime TV and current sitcom reruns at night), or it will die a quick death on television. No matter how good the writing and puppetry is.

    Though, a series of specials IS a brilliant idea that they need to put into place by the time the next film starts filming. An election special, I have to agree with the reasons why they didn't do one last time... the jokes would be too dated and it wouldn't have replay value. Plus everyone on both sides is far too bitter and galvanized for that to work anyway. This isn't the 90's when everyone can make fun of Clinton and both sides can laugh jovially (we all miss Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain, don't we?)

    We need a Halloween special, and a just so special they can air around Christmas. There are FAR too many Christmas Muppet projects out there, and you can't punt a football without hitting a Muppet Christmas book, movie, special, album, or random tchotchke. Meanwhile, Halloween gets you 2 episodes of the TV show, the 4 part Muppet Mash story arc in the comics, and an upcoming kids book (unless you count the 2 Sesame Street DTV projects).
  8. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    I'm all for a Muppet Valentine Special. :D
  9. charlietheowl

    charlietheowl Well-Known Member

    How about a Thanksgiving special? No one does those anymore, or at least since A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving.
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  10. Pinkflower7783

    Pinkflower7783 Well-Known Member

    That too!!
  11. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    The Muppet Show would die. If they made a new more modern Muppet show, I think that would do well, of course, it should be on around 7:00 to 7:30. That would be a good time. 9:00 or something like that would just kill it.
  12. catherine

    catherine Well-Known Member

    I'de like something for st. patricks day, next year or a bonfire series.
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  13. CaseytheMuppet

    CaseytheMuppet Well-Known Member

    The Leprechaun Brothers could appear in it! :eek::halo::hungry:
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Actually, they stopped the special sometime in the 90's. I remember the last Garfield one that was produced. They stopped his specials franchise because by then he had the cartoon series on television.

    They do make specials from time to time... just not in the same capacity. They had like four or five Charlie Brown specials made in the last decade, and a bunch of hit or miss Christmas specials... okay... mostly miss Christmas specials. They just don't do the "just so" specials with no holiday attachment in the capacity they used to.

    Muppets NEED a just so special. No more Christmas PLEASE! We've got enough of that.
  15. Muppet Master

    Muppet Master Well-Known Member

    I'd love to see a new muppet show pop up on primetime maybe on ABC, but the truth is it wouldn't work. Sure The Muppet Show had a good run, but it took over a decade just so it could air, but it was worth it. It aired 120 glorious episodes with 24 episodes a season, BUT, after that things just didn't go so great. The two other muppet shows that had the muppets (not SS, FR, or Dinosaurs) were The Jim Henson Hour and Muppets Tonight. I'm going to shoot straight when I say that JHH wasn't the best thing the muppets made, because it lacked the muppets a lot. Only Kermit really had consecutive appearances, because well he's Kermit, explanation enough. Besides him Gonzo appeared, I guess, and Link Hogthrob was surprisingly in 7 episodes, heck he was like a main character, and then the new creations like Digit, Clifford, Zondra, etc. But who else, that's certainly not enough. Fozzie Bear a main character appeared what three times, Miss Piggy who's the second most popular muppet in the world appeared like TWICE! Scooter wasn't in a single episode, and Richard Hunt was still around. Regular characters like Bunsen, Beaker and The Swedish Chef had only one episode's screen time. The other 30 min. was the really cool story which fared well. Overall JHH was not what fans were expecting. They were expecting basically the muppet show of the 80s, and that's why there were negative reviews, heck NBC kicked it off after 10 episodes, and a Cosby Show episode filmed to promote JHH aired AFTER the show had already been canceled :o. Then came Muppets Tonight. MT fared better than JHH, because it had a muppet feel to it, and it was somewhat like a 90's muppet show. It at least lasted aprox. two years running from March 8, 1996 - February 8, 1998. It had 2 seasons. The first season ran 10 episodes long on ABC, but ended up being shipped to Disney Channel which gave it a second chance a.k.a season 2 which lasted 12 episodes, and then it got canceled. I haven't seen legit reviews for the show, but I believe there were mixed reviews, but Wikipedia says that it had general positive reviews. Thus, comes the end 0f the muppet tv shows. Ok I'll stop rambling like I'm teaching Muppetology 101, and get to the point. A new muppet show just wouldn't work, what I'd suggest Disney to do is to partner up with Me-TV or MY13 and let them air reruns of TMS.

    Ok guys lets settle this once and for all. How about the networks all cancel everything they air and replace them with 24/7 muppet shows, movies, and tv specials. TV will then be called Muppet TV. YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!:) (arms flail)
  16. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    (Because the quality of a Muppet production is the amount of TMS characters it uses. By that logic, M11 is the best thing ever.)
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  17. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Maybe it's just me, but it seems like when fans desire a new Muppet show, and I'm not talking about the fans here or at Tough Pigs, it seems they want it to be a sixth season of The Muppet Show, only made now, with guest stars and songs that came out since the fifth season, and maybe with some modern effects. But if the Muppets did do a show, I wouldn't want it to be called The Muppet Show or just The Muppets, I'd want it to have a more unique title, like MuppeTelevision and Muppets Tonight did.

    I'd like the Muppets to do a new variety show using the theater setting and using mostly characters from TMS, JHH, and MT, as well as include Walter, '80s Robot, and maybe a few new characters here and there (but those characters shouldn't be main characters until at least the second season), but I'd also like the Muppets to actually do a show that doesn't have the variety show/sketch comedy format. I wonder if the Muppets could do a weekly non-variety show well, particularly one that doesn't involve the Muppets putting on a show (a Muppet sitcom could still involve them doing a show at the Muppet Theater or wherever, but wouldn't have to rely on the show itself). Of all the Muppet shows since The Muppet Show ended, Muppet Babies was the one that was successful, and that's the only one that didn't have a variety show format.

    I also wonder if the Muppets could do a half-hour series comprising of three 5-8 minute segments and maybe a really short segment or two (like a commercial spoof, a musical performance, a music video, a sketch like the old Muppet appearances of the 1960s and 1970s, or those Muppets.com videos). A format like this: After the opening, there could be a short story involving the main cast, then a short music video, then commercial break, then something like an extended Pigs in Space segment, then a short skit with any character (even some anonymous whatnot or monster characters), then commercial break, and then a final segment focusing on a small number of characters, usually supporting. It could be a Gonzo and Camilla story, or it could star Sweetums, or maybe a day in the life of The Newsman or Angus McGonagle or Uncle Deadley. Of course I feel a show like that would be better off on cable or as an afternoon show.
  18. Bliffenstimmers

    Bliffenstimmers Well-Known Member

    I'd like to see a series done in a similar fashion to the Muppet Show pilot special, kind of like Sesame Street (or how SS used to be like) but for an older crowd with more focus on comedy. And without the whole educational schtick, of course. Have a main story segment split into parts, with various skits and songs spliced in between the story. Maybe some days even throw in a sub story, and if possible tie it into the main story.
  19. ToonGeek

    ToonGeek Well-Known Member

    I wanna see a Muppet sitcom that has Kermit, Fozzie, Gonzo, Animal, & Miss Piggy living in suburban households, kinda like Goof Troop or The Looney Tunes Show, the only show we've really seen The Muppets do a show in sitcom type format was Muppet Babies, and that was VERY SUCCESSFUL.
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  20. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    WHAT?! And dare MeTV to run something on the weekdays that isn't a 12 hour marathon of old Westerns? Not a chance.
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