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Rumor: Abby gets own segment

Discussion in 'Sesame Street' started by Drtooth, Dec 1, 2008.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    I feel the same way. I like Elmo and Abby, myself... it's just hard to find a project to like them in. Elmo doesn't emote when all he does is talk to the audience about Bowling Balls for 15 minutes. I say, if you want to see the real Elmo check out something like Elmo Saves Christmas and Elmo in Grouchland. We can see that he's a child, and dispite the fact he is willing to share, a lot of the times, he's quite selfish... like not noticing how his wish of Christmas everyday ruins lives until its too late...or seeing his own selfishness in a funhouse mirror of himself, trying to get his blankie back.

    I see the same thing in Abby too... we know she idolizes her mother, she's proud of her fairy culture... but at the same time, when she screws up a spell she either reacts "oops! Sorry! I'm still learning" or "I'm ashamed and depressed by my mistake." She also has trouble distinguishing between her faiy tale world and the "reality" of Sesame Street (obsessively trying to kiss Oscar because she thinks he's a cursed prince), as well as her rush to grow up seen in Abby in Wonderland.

    When Abby first appeared, the writers clearly had trouble of how to establish her and make her a star at the same time. Every other thing coming out of her mouth seemed like a catchphrase brainstorming session. I think the writers have established her enough, but they're still teetering over how to use her.
  2. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    *hee* I don't hate Abby ether..It just seems like the writers now don't know how to make a new character a main supporting character without pushing them at the viewer every two mins to say 'Look at me, don't I say cute things? Like me!..I said LIKE ME darn it :D!' (And I am the sort that most of the time loves characters that are cute)

    I remember when Alice was born...You could tell see was around and she was often shown with her brother, but it didn't suddenly become Alice Street :)
  3. Erine81981

    Erine81981 Well-Known Member

    I read the theads name and thought wow Abby will be getting her own two or four minutes of the show. I really don't care if she does because like i've read. She is the newest of the show. Maybe with her they might start to tone down Elmo's World a bit and not have it on as much. Just like Bryan mentioned i too like to stay optimistic in any of the SS stuff being that i grew up watching and loving every bit of it. Even though out the 90's i still enjoyed the show.

    Why? Because it still had most of my beloved characters that i grew up with. Snuffy, Oscar, Big Bird, Ernie and Bert, Alice, Maria, Gordon, Susan, Bob, Cookie Monster, Grover, Herry, Elmo (he was ok with me then and still is a tiny bit), Gabi, Gina, Luis, Mr. Handford, Telly, Zoe, Rostia, Baby Bear, Goldielocks, Sherlock Hemlock and other fun filled characters that i grew up with.

    I would love to see a new teenager human cast member. I really loved how they introduced Gorodon and Susan's nephew "Chris Robinson." Sorry if i went off on the subject but being that Abby will get her own segment on the show. I won't know till i either see it or hear more about it i won't reallly care about this thread. That's my two cents.
  4. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Chris.... lemme just say, not only did he take to Sesame Street, he dived in head first and made a big splash. Dude was made for Sesame Street.

    Yeah, I feel that this would be about 4-5 minutes tops if anything. I mean, we had some leaked rumor (the only other news we got for the next season was about Ricky Gervais appearing somewhere) about a season that's still a year away. When do they start production for the season? After all, it airs in August.

    I still say that they could go back and retroactively edit the EW's down a little to try to tone it down. A couple seconds off the "Show Dorothy how you..." bits, a minute off of Mr. Noodle and Tickle Me Land... remove the awkward counting segment... before you know it, we get a 5 minute cut of the segment.

    That said, to Answer Fozzie's question, I know a lot of people had problems with Rodeo Rosie. I mean, she pretty much popped up and started bossing people around for 5 minutes in her debut skit. And the other characters were basically added in to add to a series of skits. They were considered their own segments in a collection basis. I'm sure a bunch of kids didn't like them... though quite a few of the characters like Don Music, Biff and Sully, etc. were added very early on.

    As far as Global Grover, I have to say, unlike the other segments the characters got to themselves (maybe we can also except Trash Gordon) Grover was still doing a lot of his old schtick... over exerting himself, getting upstaged by random animals... and then there was that Russian Restaurant one that redid the classic "Waiter Grover" skits. I think that's why it didn't get the same complaints as the others. Had journey to Ernie featured Bert looking for Ernie, I bet it would have had a better reception.
  5. StreetScenes

    StreetScenes Member

    aren't they filming it now?
  6. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    The word on the "street" is that they started filming Dec 1. That is what Marty Robinson mentioned.
  7. StreetScenes

    StreetScenes Member

    yeah, that's what bob said on his blog, too, that they'd be filming this month.
  8. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    Bob blog :D? *makes gimmie hands*:excited:

    *hee* If they had had Bert looking for Ernie they could have put in a bunch of classic 'Bert getting mad' scenes:flirt:
  9. StreetScenes

    StreetScenes Member


    he's only posted once so far and it was a few weeks ago, but he updated his website & started a youtube channel, too, so maybe he'll post more blog entries sometime...
  10. Ilikemuppets

    Ilikemuppets New Member

    Oh cool! That great that The Bob has a Blog and everything now!
  11. The Shoe Fairy

    The Shoe Fairy Active Member

    Bit off topic, can we get back to our certain Fairy-in-training discussion now?
  12. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    I'm with Drtooth; The season JUST started taping and we don't know anything for sure and we won't for several months. Plus, I, too, am sure it will be shorter that 15 minutes.
  13. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    We usually get our first press releases between February and May, right? But then again, Ssetta's been right about a lot of things, but slightly altered to what finally comes out. He was dead on about the video player, but then again, it didn't come out until months after first projected. But then again, they were probably trying to work the kinks out.
  14. mikebennidict

    mikebennidict New Member

    I wonder what was their reasoning behind the E&B animation?

    This is one part that's not understandable.
  15. Taco Wiz

    Taco Wiz Member

    Abby Cadabby getting her own segment, eh? As everyone knows, history repeats itself. Human nature never changes. I will discuss the possible future. We'll start with the past.

    Big Bird is the star of the show, until Elmo becomes popular. He begins to take up sketches, and gets his own segment. He gets one of the most famous toys of all time. The generation of Big Bird gets depressed and claims that Sesame Street jumped the shark. Oh, and Elmo gets a movie that flops at the box office.

    Now, let's switch roles.

    Elmo is the star of the show, until Abby Cadabby becomes popular. She begins to take up sketches, and gets her own segment. She gets one of the most famous toys of all time. The generation of Elmo gets depressed and claims that Sesame Street jumped the shark. Oh, and Abby gets a movie that flops at the box office.

    I can see it now.

    After that, if Sesame Street survives that long, a new character will outshine Abby. Now...

    Abby is the star of the show, until [UNKNOWN] becomes popular. He begins to take up sketches, and gets his own segment. He gets one of the most famous toys of all time. The generation of Abby Cadabby gets depressed and claims that Sesame Street jumped the shark. Oh, and [UNKNOWN] gets a movie that flops at the box office.
  16. Oscarfan

    Oscarfan Well-Known Member

    Well, her appearances this season weren't as plentiful as season 38, where they mader her appear in EVERY EPISODE!
  17. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    On a technicality, I'd say history repeating itself would be them trying out another weird gimmick that doesn't stick, like they did in 93... Elmo's world is the only one of these gimmicks that stuck.. Monster Clubhouse, Hero Guy, Journey to Ernie, and all those other things have been totally stripped from the show. I somehow doubt Abby would be able to hold on to a gimmicky segment for 10+ years like Elmo did.

    Plus, let's not forget, the idea of an Elmo movie would have been perfect, had his audience not been largely made up of kids way too young to sit in a movie theater... :wisdom:
  18. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    It's all too focus-grouped and compartmentalized. The Muppets, including Sesame Street Muppets, have always been about chaos. Those in charge of Sesame Workshop don't recognize the importance of that and have cleaned up the street to nearly an obsessive compulsive degree of efficiency. That certainly works with other programs and brands, but the chaos is what makes Sesame Street's Muppets unique. The Muppet scenes should bleed together more. As long as each show has a theme, message, letter and number of the day then let the characters run free. Let my Muppets go! :wisdom:
  19. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Ugh! Tell me about it. I see a lot of great chaos in the street segments (try to tell me this year's Number 6 Day wasn't blow your mind wacky, right down to the "Six Penguins In My Shirt" song), and even in the claymation Ernie and Bert segments have some of the mild peril that preschool shows should all have. But when it comes down to it, no matter how much SW wants to change things up (there's not a doubt in my mind they deep down want to), they wind up breaking down and cowtowing to various contradictory studies and focus groups, as well as the pressure to be like all the other bland and loud (and not the kind of fun, Pee Wee screaming the word of the Day loud) preschool shows on cable (we know who they are, no need to name names).

    I think an Abby segment is a step backwards for them, when they got rid of all the aforementioned segments, and tried interspersing the street story into a full hour twice last season. I understand, it is tough that the tried and true Sesame Street looks like a dinosaur when placed up against the plasticky and artificial sparkle of said cable shows. In fact, I feel that they are just so interchangeable, I can't tell the difference. It seems they placed various different characters (including a certain mouse who will remain nameless) into the same exact situation and style. Sesame, since season 32 (or is it 33?) hovered between staying true to itself and falling into that trap. I would love to say that in a few years, this experiment netted unfavorable results, and things would go back to normal.... but that's not up to me.
  20. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    The difference between Big Bird and Elmo and Abby though is that BB is the heart, soul, and start of SS IMHO. Characters may come and go but they will always have BB to thank for it :). My being depressed over him being overlooked isn't just because I grew up with him :wisdom: but becuase I think he still has so much more to teach than Elmo or Abby ever could at their level, or age (maybe Abby could teach words but she'd have to mellow a bit more than she is now IMHO). I think back when BB was in his prime he did a great job at teaching things that were far far above the simple-let's-sing-a-word-to-the-turn-of-jingle-bells level...
    To me, BB stands for the idea of not talking down to little ones because they are smarter than you think-ness, and that's what I really miss on SS:sympathy:

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