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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Xerus, May 7, 2008.
True, but you also cannot let one character run the whole thing.
It depends. I see what you're saying, but reality dictates that it's is necessary for it survivable now days. It just a different time and it's like Carroll said, they could probably use the money.
If they would split Elmo's World into its own show, that would generate revenue.
Yeah I could see that working.
And it would get rid of hopefully one of the Tubbyesque-programs too.
Though I have to say Sushi Pack is enjoyable. But due to the pressures to keep it a TV E/I show (so it can actually air on SatAm), they watered down the show with idiotic common sense morals, and the preachiness keeps the show from becoming what it could have been. And 2 of the head writers for Animaniacs were behind it (productionwise), so I was a little dissappointed by it. Again, not a bad show, but had it aired somewhere else where it didn't need TV E/I, and they didn't have to crush 2 episodes into a half hour (another thing the network made them do) they would have had something great. I could see a toy line stemming out of it though... the characters pretty much look like those hip Vynal toys everyone's screaming for.
I give them credit for having the fortitude to actually air new programming, instead of copping out and tossing down ready made reruns of crappy cable shows (like they used to do with the poop of Nick Jr). Though I will say, that year they reran Hey Arnold was great. I don't have cable, so I didn't get a chance to see it that much.
You mean something like The Bernstein Bears previous show?
Yeah, Sushi Pack is the only cartoon I'll watch on PBS.
Also it seemed like educational and instructional rules were enforced back in the 70's and 80's as well. There was Yogi's Gang where Yogi and his HB friends end up traveling the world stopping villains that make the world a bad place and everyone learns something in the end.
Also, Filmation was famous for teaching us morals in most of their shows. Especially in Fat Albert and He-Man.
And in Rankin/Bass shows like Thundercats and Silverhawks, I heard that psychiatrists helped the writers with the episodes so kids could learn something positive on each show.
Anythng is better then "Yo-Yogi"...
You know, I respected what Filmation did. They wanted to keep their animation studios in the US. But... well, they came up with some of the sappiest stuff on Tv at the time. Fat Albert indefinately excluded. That show was brilliant. But I really didn't like their take on Tom and Jerry or Droopy (I did when I was younger, actually ). And 2 Gilligans Island cartoons, including one where they're in space. I ask you, considering Gilligan's actions when they were stranded on an island at sea, why the shell would you entrust him on a rocket ship?
And now here's all the Sat. Morning shows ABC had to offer over the years. I really liked a lot of stuff on this network back then before Disney bought ABC and tampered with it. I loved Kid Power, The Osmonds, Lidsville, Schoolhouse Rock, Yogi's Gang, Uncle Croc's Block, Time For Timer, Laff-A-Lympics, Pac Man, Captain O.G. Readmore, Beetlejuice, and Bump in the Night.
And Sonic the "SatAM" Hedgehog too, eventually. Dratted dueteronomies to the new ABC president who used the popularity of a top-grossing product in Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers to "justify" his unqualified axing of the best dang Sonic cartoon to ever exist (and I say this, because unlike Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog & Sonic X, Sonic "SatAM" never used formulas from other companies--Warner Brothers--or post-modern "hip" stylings badly ported over from another country to get over, as it stood on its own and used its own merit to become a hit sensation [not to mention that the storyline for the darker series was more realistic in terms of Sonic's character as a kick-butt hero, as opposed to a cross-dressing morality preacher or a lazy laughingstock with cliche anime tricks as his character backdrop])!
I used to watch Pac Man years after it originally aired. I heard that ABC would keep their Saturday morning cartons for no more than two years at a time. With a few exceptions of course.
I gotta admit. Looking back, I don't think I liked most of anything from the 1970's. I've said this before, but cartoons were a wash in cloning Archie or Scooby Doo (who, incidentally was intended as a knockoff of the Archie in its earliest incarnation), cartoonifying pointless fads du jour (CB Bears), and sitcom based cartoons be they legit (Jeannie, The Brady Kids) or flavorless knockoffs (the Oddball Couple, The BArkleys, etc).
In that era, Hanna Barbera, Filmation, and DePatie Freling made some pretty lousy stuff. Though there were great things like Fat Albert and Hong Kong Phooey.
When it comes to eras in animation, I especially loved the 60's, the late 80's, and most of the 90's. When Fox and WB were starting up their own kids networks, giving the main three a run for their money, that was amazing. I remember three programs I loved being opposite each other half the time.
I really hope this is just a slump in animation history, and not the end of it.
Ditto. And maybe, Disney getting back on the ball is just the start of an animation relaunch.
Yeah, I think it's a slump and that they'll return to their true form again like they once were.
We can certainly hope that such is the case.
Hey, once kids wise up and realize how formuliac, unappealing, and unwatchable Hannah Montanna and the like are, then we'll have a grand come back. But until then, we get 2 companies now bothering to make cartoons at all.
Great! We'll be grumpy old persons by then!
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