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"The Doozers" preschool series under development

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by Traveling Matt, Mar 24, 2009.

  1. Davina

    Davina Well-Known Member

    my husband wants to know what the "real" doozers will think of these new ones... names are all wrong.. missing antenna.. is this some weird genetic sub branch?
  2. Redsonga

    Redsonga Well-Known Member

    OMG mutant doozers:o! :coy: I really miss the antennae:sympathy:
  3. bazooka_beak

    bazooka_beak Well-Known Member

    What, no Cotterpin? No Wrench? None of the original Doozers? "Puzzlebea" is sure an interesting name XD
  4. DTWolf

    DTWolf Well-Known Member

    Well I'm looking forward to this. Sid the Science Kid is great stuff, and if they can match that level of quality with Doozers, it'll be fantastic. (But yeah, I thought the head was too big--maybe it's just really, really young Doozers who look like that, since kids have different proportions than adults do?

    And merchandise! Give me figures! (Posable arms and legs, please.)

    I just hope this doesn't end up cable-only, since I'm one of those backward souls who don't get cable or satellite. (I've got DTV taken care of, though!)
  5. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    Maybe this is "Doozers: The Next Generation"? LOL ... Hmmm ... who wants to start running bets that one of these Doozers is the child of someone we know? I mean, how much effort is it to see the Doozer they show as a child between Cotterpin and Wrench?

    Best explanation yet. :D
  6. bazooka_beak

    bazooka_beak Well-Known Member

    That's a really interesting way to think about it :wisdom:
  7. Redsonga

    Redsonga Well-Known Member

    That doesn't really work because Cotterpin in the series was a child (or at least as much of a child as Wembley) and they did show ones much younger than her and they looked just the same (only a really really cute mini size that just made you to want to pitch their little cheeks :3):sympathy:. The new look just seems..sloppy to me, like textured CGI fanart:\...It reminds me of the style of The Zula Patrol :confused:
  8. MattFraggle

    MattFraggle Well-Known Member

    I could not agree with you more. I am so bloody sick of being told everything we do is so bloody dang evil and the poor environment is suffering OH WOE IS US!

    FEH! If the Earth is warming IT'S A NATURAL CYLCE THAT HAPPENS EVERY THOUSAND YEARS OR SO! dang liberals.

    Hey Henson. WHY NOT GIVE US A NEW CG FRAGGLE ROCK SHOW? You Harvard graduates-turned-movie executives know...NOTHING!

    *tears hair out* AAGGGH!
  9. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    Even on Dinosaurs, with the exception of the execs at Wesayso, most of the damage came not from evil, but from ignorance and apathy. It's still a healthy tradition, as we can see.
  10. Redsonga

    Redsonga Well-Known Member

    *sigh* What can I say I was raised by the hippie generation so my views are more than a little bit tree hugging *hugs tree:flirt:*. It's werid that it has to be seen as so black and white, I mean what with clean air and water being good for everyone:excited:. Helping a bit doesn't mean you have to give up your computer or tv, just little things like switching off lights when your not using them, not dumping motor oil down the drain..common sense things really :\
  11. muppet baby

    muppet baby Well-Known Member

    wow this sounds neat i can not wait to see it .

    If it is really good i am going to watch it how ever long it stays on .

    i mean it is part of the great fraggle rock after all . LOL :excited:
  12. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Hey, I'm sick of people throwin' their crap all over the place. And not picking up after their pets. Global warming nothing. Don't live like pigs expecting everyone to clean up after you.

    I really could see this on PBS if only they could get the heck rid of Super Why. But it seems like something that would have to be on cable. Really stinks, since putting FR on HBO (not only a cable channel, but a premium one) stopped poorer kids from seeing the wonderful, beautiful show Henson created.

    Of course, I have my DTV set up, but the reception, even with a new antenna sucks. All you really get is like 4 PBS's extra. And I wound up losing that many channels.
  13. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    Every Muppet pig character: Hey!:mad:
  14. GelflingWaldo

    GelflingWaldo Well-Known Member

    Henson has a long tradition of promoting an environmental message - with environmental messages being a central part of such programs as Sesame Street, Fraggle Rock, Dinosaurs, Animal Show, plus Jim did numerous public service announcements starring the Muppets. In fact, the Jim Henson Company just received an award for promoting "environmental and social responsibilities" in filmmaking -- http://news.toonzone.net/articles/29031/disney-and-henson-film-companies-receive-environmental-award

    This series seems to carry on that spirit along with the guiding spirit of Fraggle Rock plus (like most of Henson's work) I don't think it will be too "preachy" in its approach.


    Now regardless of your feelings on global warming, carbon footprints, holes in the ozone, air pollution, endangered species, depleting natural resources, or any of these other "liberal" issues; I think we should be able to agree that it is important to teach about stewardship of the earth and our resources. Environmentalism is still important, even if you feel that we aren’t causing the "end of the world" with any of our behavior.

    When I was a kid my mother taught me to clean my room, not because a messy room would cause the house to fall down, but because having a clean room made living there more enjoyable, safer, and healthier (plus it showed respect for my stuff as my toys wouldn't get lost or broken as easily). The same is true with the world – you may feel that living on a polluted planet may not cause the earth and all of humanity to be destroyed, but if we all live more environmentally-conscious lifestyles living here will be more enjoyable, safer, and healthier (plus it shows respect for the work as our resources, habitats and wildlife won't be lost or damaged).

    Responsible stewardship of the earth shows respect for nature and our planet - our home. Now if you want to discuss environmentalism or global warming or the overall environmental political movement, I would suggest taking that conversation to another thread; let's not get sidetracked here.


    So…anyway…I can’t wait for this show! I think it's long overdue and it will be great. The whole premise sounds like fun and right in line with the spirit of the Doozers.
  15. GelflingWaldo

    GelflingWaldo Well-Known Member

    I would hold off on any real judgment of the designs until more images are released. This is just one image of a somewhat early design (his face looks a bit distorted because of his head tilit and the camera perspective). Wait until you see some more characters – and see them from different angles, with different lighting, and even in motion (it will be hard to get a true sense of if these animated Doozers are working until we see a video clip).

    Also remember that a lot can (and probably will) change before the actual release. Anyone remember the early designs of Sid from "Sid the Science Kid" (who was also originally named Josh)? Thinks will likely change over the next year and a half as they develop the show.

    Also, as for the non-tool names, the working above ground, and some of the other minor differences in Doozer culture: remember we've only really seen one group of Doozers (the clan from the area surrounding Fraggle Rock). It is possible that there are other groups of Doozers out there in the world that could have some minor cultural differences and live slightly different lifestyles. Plus the last time we viewed Doozer culture was almost 25 years, so some little things could have changed or evolved since then.
  16. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    :confused: Wow. What negativity for something so positive and Jim-like. The environment and symbiotic nature of the world was always a part of Jim's message, his artwork and Fraggle Rock. It appears you are projecting something not contained in this new program. The use of key words like "liberal" kind of gives that away. Geez, I'm just mystified by that post.

    Here's a bit more preachifacation from Mr. Jim Henson himself:

    Kermit PSA
    Kermit & Penguins PSA
    Fozzie & Kermit PSA
    Kermit & Miss Piggy PSA
    Reporter Kermit & Mount Rushmore
    John Denver & Kermit PSA

    And the Doozer isn't ugly. He looks like a Doozer. Just oddly proportioned in this first design.
  17. Davina

    Davina Well-Known Member

    doozer evolution? Life beyond the Rock?


  18. RedPiggy

    RedPiggy Well-Known Member

    Well, 'Crusty' and 'Yeaster' aren't exactly techie names either, I guess. Maybe you're right ... maybe it's the culture which determines the naming scheme.
  19. CensoredAlso

    CensoredAlso Well-Known Member

    At this point, I have no problem with an enviornmental message, even if it is preachy, heh. At some point, we do have to realize our responsibility to the planet and how much damage we did to it with the industrial revolution and how much damage we continue to do with big business. Technology and business have given us many good things, but they have also come at a heavy price.
  20. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I agree.

    This project appears to be more informative than preachy. There was none of that garbage about people being bad, liberalism or carbon footprints as Carrie stated.

    The press release cites teamwork, cooperation, green technology and eco consciousness. Those should be universal things that are beneficial to all and likely economical too.

    "...the Doozers...inspire kids to make the world a better place by making smart, ecofriendly choices, and by inventing tools, gadgets, buildings, structures, and other technology that supports the environment's ecology."

    That doesn't sound manipulative or heavy-handed to me. Criticizing the Doozer program for offering environmental solutions is like criticizing Sesame Street for educating children. I guess some people here the word "environment" and automatically think evil. I have never quite understood that. :p

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