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The Muppets Movie Reviews

Discussion in 'Muppet Headlines' started by theprawncracker, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    Clifford does not appear. Don't get your hopes up to high. It's possible he got cut... but I doubt it. Kevin probably didn't have time to go out and perform.
  2. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    I am not even watching this movie now. *folds arms*
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  3. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    And I'd be surprised if they got Kevin Clash on set just to perform a non-speaking background role. I'll have to see if Muppet Wiki lists a source for Clash being in the movie.
  4. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    If you ever find the link to the article that says that again, please post it.
  5. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Here's the link: http://spinoff.comicbookresources.c...ts-with-bobin-mckenzie-stoller-and-producers/

    Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but has a press kit been posted online? I've read some mentions of a press kit at Muppet Wiki, but when I searched for it I couldn't find it.

    Oh, and if Muppet Wiki listed Kevin Clash as being in the film, he's no longer listed now.
  6. flatlander

    flatlander New Member

    Saw the sneak preview last night. I had my hopes a bit too high - my less fanatic friends actually seemed to enjoy it more than me. I wish there were more online reviews so I could hear other opinions. I guess I'd put it as 5th favorite behind MM, GMC, MTM, and Christmas Carol.

    The good:
    - great first act; it really set the tone with the great song & fun characters
    - 2nd tier Muppets got lots of screentime
    - Cameos all felt fun & organic (unlike MFS)
    - 'Muppet or a Man' was the most 'Flight of the Concord' song - very clever
    - Nostalgia & shout outs to other movies
    - Tex Richman was well-written and fun. His rap is so bizarre, but beautifully short (you'll see). Not sure it needed follow-the-bouncing ball lyrics, though.

    The bad:
    - 'Me Party' - they didn't seem to know what to do with Amy Adams so they gave her the most ridiculous song that's horribly staged. Piggy seems like an afterthought
    - each of the original 3 movies had a Piggy & Kermit break-up and a reconciliation scene, each wonderfully done. The Paris Kermit & Piggy scene just doesn't work and there's a line of dialogue that made me gasp at how ridiculous it sounded coming from Kermit's mouth. Which leads me to...
    - Frank Oz was right. For all they got right with the secondary characters, the main characters fall flat or feel out of character. I think the issue was that in all the other movies, the Muppets have no self-awareness of who they are in relation to the real world. They certainly have wonderful moments of self-realization like Kermit in the desert (MM) or Kermit shouting off the Empire State Building (MTM), but in The Muppets the whole last act seems to be trying to be that moment. But having it tied to a theater and money of all things seemed weird. That's one of the things I liked about Muppets from Space is that they were just living in the suburbs, doing their thing as a family.
    - After the first act, everything with Gary, Mary & to some degree Walter was a distraction (with the exception of 'Muppet or a Man'). Walter has a big part at the end but it came out of nowhere.
    - There were great laughs throughout - very funny laughs coming from odd places sometimes (Rowlf, Wayne & Wanda, Deadly & Bobo) but overall the movie seemed sadder than it should have been. Having just watched GMC, it's a laugh a minute between Gonzo, Fozzie, the other characters, and visual gags. But Gonzo was barely there and he wasn't given many jokes. No Rizzo - I don't even remember seeing him. Pepe has one scene. I even expected Statler & Waldorf to make jokes at the end but don't recall more than one line. I wonder if it was just hard to write so many jokes into it because it took the main plotline a bit too seriously.
    - the finale changes the lyrics from the intro number - and not for the better.
    - knowing that they had re-shoots makes me think they totally re-worked the ending. There are lots of shots in the trailer that aren't in the film (no Muppets in jail, no Jason Segel with the bowling pin on his head) and the extra plot scenes over the credits feel tacked on. I'm very curious about the DVD extras now

    So I guess my walkaway is that I'll see it again, I'll buy it on DVD, & I'm glad it's out there but it missed some opportunities to really show who these characters are. If it truly is a reboot/re-introduction to the brand, then I'd say they took 3 steps forward and one step back.
  7. Puckrox

    Puckrox Well-Known Member

    Hmmm interesting. Well I'm reserving all thoughts/judgement until I see it.
  8. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Knowing the Wanda Sykes scene was cut, I wondered if it was just that part or the whole "muppets in jail" sequence was cut. The junior novel does include them going to jail, though.
  9. 12Medbe

    12Medbe Well-Known Member

    Right on! same here
  10. Duke Remington

    Duke Remington Well-Known Member

    Uh-oh... :concern:
  11. ploobis

    ploobis Well-Known Member

    I'm really looking forward to seeing the movie! I know that it's gonna be great!

    I have faith in this movie! :)
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  12. beatnikchick300

    beatnikchick300 Well-Known Member

    Judging by your review, the movie sounds awesome. I might have to go see it after class (and before starting to cook) on Wednesday instead of after work on Saturday. And who knows? I might not be in such a bad mood and no one will have to pay after all (see my latest post on the Weekly Survey in the Games forum; it only makes sense if you read that).

    And wait.....Pepe has only one scene? Yaaaaay!

    Um, sorry, guys, those words just feel fabulous coming off of my fingertips.
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  13. 12Medbe

    12Medbe Well-Known Member

    Ah, don't fret, it'll be fantastic!
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  14. Randall Flagg

    Randall Flagg Well-Known Member

    Wait, didn't you say you'd reserve judgment until you've seen it? :confused:
  15. 12Medbe

    12Medbe Well-Known Member

    I did, but the Muppet fanatic inside me is praising it early, haha.
  16. Puckrox

    Puckrox Well-Known Member

    I can relate. I'm reserving judgment until I see the film, but a part of me is already praising it now. I mean, I know there will be things about it that wont necessarily feed into my wants (I've anticipated for a while Me Party is going to disappoint), but I feel like I'm gonna love this movie. I guess I should just wait and see though...
  17. 12Medbe

    12Medbe Well-Known Member

    Indeed, and the marketing, the television appearances, oh my gosh where do I start! The Television appearances have been incredible, I feel that the incredible appearances are preparing us for an advanced type of incredible the movie has to offer. I'm ready for Nov 23rd!
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  18. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Your mileage WILL vary. If that's the most negative review there is, it's still an enjoyable movie. Prawncracker seems to have exploded with joy, and everything else we've heard is strongly positive.

    I'm not expecting to see anything better than The Muppet Movie or Muppets Take Manhattan or anything like that... what I am expecting is something much better than MFS... and even then, while that was a completely flawed film, I found it pretty enjoyable. I'm not going into this thinking the Muppets are back (as I don't think they've gone anywhere), but I'm going into thinking I'll pretty much love any Muppet Movie on the big screen. heck, I even dug Elmo in Grouchland (though still had problems with it). Honestly, I may even just eclipse my standards and dare to expect it to be the best post-Henson Muppet project (Best post Henson project outside the Muppets? Dinosaurs! Go on... tell me that wasn't an epic show that said things that needed to be said. Tell me it wasn't amazing, and I'll ignore you).
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  19. Muppet fan 123

    Muppet fan 123 Well-Known Member

    I'm going to it right now, I'll let you know how it is
  20. Puckrox

    Puckrox Well-Known Member

    Don't give us any spoilers though!

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