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Tinseltown News

Discussion in 'Henson Alternative' started by Barry Lee, Aug 1, 2007.

  1. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I agree with ya. Most of my gay friends have mentioned it seemed straight-written. Not terrible, just less relatable to the intended audience. Also, this really is in the spirit of Absolutely Fabulous. The characters aren't intended to be role models and that can cut both ways. I chose not to take it all so seriously under that context.

    I felt the closing shot was for shock value. Maybe they felt they had to do that. The outfit was probably made before writing the scene. The opening scene made more sense.

    I did think the couple seemed loving underneath the antics. Also, what's the previous cheating comment? There was no cheating I saw. Did you? A buff dude washed Samson's car. I'm certain that this is one of many shirtless services in LA. I just wanna see Bobby in the gym! Lots of humor to be had in that setting! :o

    The one thing that did kinda bother me was the beer. Heck, I've finished off my share of lite beer in my day (vodka etc too) but the teen drinking reference didn't please me. It did get laughs from friends, but I'm just not as cool with that.

    The food preparation - that was just plain normal passive aggression. I see it all time in every type of relationship. So is Bobby really vegan or is that just a name? :confused:
  2. abiraniriba

    abiraniriba New Member

    There are probably also regular car washing services in California

    Going to a car washing service where the people washing your cars display their bodies is cheating. It would be cheating if I went to a strip bar instead of watching my wife strip for me. Which she has done. BTW: Bobby Vegan is most likely just a name. Pigs are omnivores.
  3. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour Active Member

    Um, how in the world is that cheaping? He has his car washed it's not like the guy washed him or anything. People flirt it's not like he slept with him or even touched the man.
    That's just wacky.:crazy:
  4. Beauregard

    Beauregard Well-Known Member

    The puppets! Wow! The eyes...WOW! The voices are great. Its funny, whitty. Amusing.

    Most of all, it works. Whatever it is, it is. And that is why it works.

    I was surprised to see only two Puppets though? Is that how it's going to go on?
  5. GonzoLeaper

    GonzoLeaper Well-Known Member

    In my opinion it's cheating because Jesus said that if you even look at a girl lustfully, you've commited adultery with her in your heart.
  6. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour Active Member

    I feel the same way Beau.
    And I'm pretty sure Muppet Central Forums told you guys to knock off the religious holier than thou art stuff.:rolleyes:
    But hey he wasn't looking at another man it was a Puppet looking at a man and him going oh my.
  7. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I'd read my boyfriend for doing that, but...

    I think it's sort of like a Jimmy Carter "lust in your heart" sort of thing. I get it. I wouldn't go that far as to say that any guy that goes to Hooters is cheating on his wife or girlfriend. It's the same sort of situation here (except Hooters are more prevalent than these car washes). :D

    I would consider my partner snuggling with someone else to be cheating, but not this. Straight, gay or omnivore - guys ogle. People follow different guidelines for this sort of thing. Sometimes it hinges on the feelings of the individuals in a relationship. I consider it, at most, to be disrespectful. But I do understand how the needle of another's moral compass could register this as cheating. I'm lucky to be attached to the sweetest, most beautiful person in the world already and fortunately I'm exactly his type too! :flirt:

    Question - does one need to own a car to go to this carwash? Kidding! :zany:
  8. GonzoLeaper

    GonzoLeaper Well-Known Member

    Well, I still don't see what the problem is in stating exactly what my religious beliefs are because I think everyone should be able to rationally and calmly talk about such things and able to state and defend their own positions. What I'm saying is- dissenting points of view should be able to be stated and people should be able to disagree agreeably. In any case, I've already stated where I stand on this issue, so as I said before there's no need to belabor the point.

    But I did not intend to make any "personal attacks" on anyone. I was simply stating what I believe. And if I was calling anyone a sinner- I was calling everyone a sinner- and like Paul, me chief of all. But that's why Jesus came- He loves everyone anyway in spite of our wrongs and wants to save us all. Praise God.:)
  9. GonzoLeaper

    GonzoLeaper Well-Known Member

    I didn't say I was holier than thou or anyone else. Jesus is holy- and that's what He said about adultery.
  10. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour Active Member

    Lucky you :)
    I hope I meet some one good some day...:D
    All humans and creaturs lust it's not like animals get married anyways they just get with any animal they can. They don't have the same moral rules as we do.
    I don't consider some one going to a place like that cheating because they didn't do anything besides exchange words. I mean if he was touching him and fondling him it would be a differnt story in my book.
    My x used to acuse me of cheating all the time because I would have guy friends and we would go out and eat together.
    So I did what he acused me of I left him and went with some one else he got his wish.
    Anyway this is a puppet show I really can't believe this is becoming a biblical moral battle.:mad:
    Yeah, Well let's not forget that it was jesus's words and not some book to be quited to judge people at every turn. I believe the bible to be a spiritual guide to ones life not a book of judgements and hatred even if it has enough of both in it.
  11. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Dude, seriously. You are now making a point to try the patience of others. This weasely chiding has once again broken forum rules. You may not like or agree with them, but you have been comprehensively informed.
  12. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Is there a Muppet named jesus or something?

    :mad: There are plenty of gay and non-Christian active members on the forum (yup, plenty). We don't fire-bomb the religious threads. Even after this snarky effort by several members - I still wouldn't do that. I find the sentiment in some to be highly offensive, but I don't have to participate. The lack of restraint and thoughtfulness in this thread boggles the mind! Okay, getting myself back out of that subject...ugh! :mad:

    My partner just called. I'm back in a glowy mood. :)
  13. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour Active Member

    Me either, becfause it's for them to post in and it's not like I don't agree with some of the things they have to say. I've really become tired of the whole republicans vs. democrats thing going on it's getting so bad anymore.
    I just can't stand how people can't just be people anymore we have to be on one side or the other.
    Well guess what I'm not choosing a side I love everyone (within reason) like we all should and no book, person, or spirit who can tell me differntly.
  14. MuppetQuilter

    MuppetQuilter Member

    Okay, but I'm pretty sure most significant others would say that's cheating.


    (Sorry, couldn't help myself.)
  15. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour Active Member

    perv.:mad: :eek:
  16. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Omnivore! :D
  17. TheJimHensonHour

    TheJimHensonHour Active Member

    omelette au fromage:p
  18. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    Well I support people's right to free speech wholeheartedly, even if I strongly disagree with it.

    I make no secret that I am extremely anti war, as in anti all war. So while someone may not approve of Tinseltown due to it's homosexual theme, I don't approve of Sesame Street's war themed specials. Hey, but that's America

    Anyways, Tinseltown follows the rule in my mind that pilots are usually a let down.

    The good in my view:

    Love the nature of the puppets...they arent full bodied like that proposed TBS talk show one...but...they arent hand and rod puppets. the chemistry between the two was pretty good

    I am ALWAYS a fan of when Muppets interact with real life. Like Uncle Matt, or Pepe on the street interviewing people.

    has the potential of capturing that Los Angeles Curb Your Enthusiasm feel

    the bad:

    not much you can establish in a pilot, much less a 10 minute pilot

    as usual in post jh productions, hard for me to like any of the humans

    I think it's an interesting area for JH to explore, and it shows that while Disney may be squandering the (tm) Muppets, the JHC is trying out new ways to keep the puppet vision alive.

    Come on, admit it folks...seeing Tinseltown and TBS PuppetUp Uncensored elicits that same kind of spark of when you learned that the Muppets had an adult sketch on Saturday Night Live over 30 years ago.
  19. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    I support Christianity, but don't the Christians realize just how gay the Muppets are? I mean The Muppet Show, come on. The entire Muppet theme is colorful, celebrational musical numbers. It's gay in even the purest old century way.
  20. abiraniriba

    abiraniriba New Member


    It's not like he saw a good-looking person on the street and noticed that he/she was good-looking. He chose a car wash with a half-naked person washing his car, when he could have chose a regular car washing service. In addition he pointed out a spot that the guy missed specifically so he could get a better view of the washer's buttocks. If my wife did that I would count it as cheating, she also would if I did something similar. I don't drive at the moment but if my bicycle ever got a flat and there was a bike shop with female mechanics in bikinis and I chose that bike shop to have my tire replaced at over a regular bike shop and tried to get the person doing the work to show me a little more than she already was, that would be cheating.

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