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TMS Season 2 Box Set - 2007 Release?

Discussion in 'Muppet Merchandise' started by MustangRockstar, Feb 9, 2006.

  1. Mistersuperstar

    Mistersuperstar Well-Known Member

    Jim merely used puppets as a way of getting into television. He was not protective of The Muppets at all. He realised that they were a way to make money and a way to entertain. He was not in favour of Muppet Puppets because he thought it might spoil the illusion he took time to create on screen and for no other reason. Muppet toys and puppets have been available since Sesame Street first aired in the States and this new Kermit photo puppet is no different to anything else that has ever been available, only more expensive.
  2. Mistersuperstar

    Mistersuperstar Well-Known Member

    Please try to remember, it was Brian's idea to sell the rights to Disney and seeing he worked with his father on many projects AND became the chairman of Jim Henson Productions, as well as being Jim's son, I think he has more of an idea of what should be happening with The Muppets than you.
  3. Robin

    Robin Well-Known Member

    The proof will be in the pudding! Or in the the Muppets!!! LOL... We'll see what happens... so far it's been kinda disappointing to me...
  4. Mistersuperstar

    Mistersuperstar Well-Known Member

    The thing we all have to realise is Jim was the driving force behind The Muppets. No Jim equals no driving force. It's kinda like one of your own family dying. You can only remember all the good times and the stories that other people can tell you about that person. You can't expect anyone else to realistically take on the role of that person. Disney are doing their best but The Muppets aren't their main concern. The Muppets are just a side-line to Disney and they will do there best to deliver what they can but not if it will jeopardise releases based on their own characters.
    I for one am not interested in seeing new Muppet releases anyway. I would much rather see every single clip, tv show, movie reel and cut scene that is still available to be released somehow so we can get back to how The Muppets were in their prime!
  5. Robin

    Robin Well-Known Member

    OK I think if we're not on the same page, we're pretty close now... LOL
  6. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    Well this is the same agruement that people all over this forum have been having for awhile now.

    I'll just say this for now, I'm very hopeful in Disney that the season two set will be out for everyone very soon. After all season one was a huge seller for them, why wouldn't they want to put season two out, and the more the first two sell the more of a chance their will be of the other three seasons out.

    Also I do agree that the season one set was one of the best Muppet dvd releases ever, with only probably the Fraggle Rock season sets beating it. I mean even if their were some cuts, it's still the first and maybe only time, we'll have the all the first season episodes out on DVD, not to mention the pilot and picth reel. How any Muppet fan can still there and say it's not one of the best Muppet realeases of all time is something I don't understand, just because of a few cuts.
  7. Mistersuperstar

    Mistersuperstar Well-Known Member

    Hey JJand Janice, don't forget the original opening sequences! Most Muppet Show re-releases featured the season three opening sequence no matter which season the episode was from. It's great to see these first shows (pretty much) in their entirety. :D
  8. Kimp the Shrimp

    Kimp the Shrimp Well-Known Member

    I thought this was about the release of TMS season 2
  9. Mistersuperstar

    Mistersuperstar Well-Known Member

    It is mainly. Our friend Robin is very concerned that DIsney will not release season two as promised. I hope for all our sakes that he is wrong.
  10. Marky

    Marky Well-Known Member

    I wish he was wrong. But he's right.
    Having said that, since they're so reluctant to fork any capital to release their classic material, think they'll even dream of producing anything new again?

    The only way I can ever see that happening - if another company buys them. They're a commdity now. Like a recording artist's back-catalouge. They're the Beatles, and Disney's treating them like the Monkees!!!
  11. David French

    David French Well-Known Member

    Which is odd, considering that Rhino Records, who own the Monkees back catalogue have constantly been releasing material since the late 1980's on a (fairly) regular basis. Look at the Missing Links series, the CD reissues of the original LPs and even the current Deluxe reissues. Monkees fans have never had it so good since c.1967.
  12. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    Yeah totally can't forget about that, that's really cool, how many times well we be able to have that as well. :D Once agian, how any Muppet fan can say it's not one of the best Muppet releases (not just DVD, but for anything.) is something that I don't understand.

    But back to season two, I'm still saying that Disney will release season two on DVD sometime soon, hopefully. Disney knows there is money to be made by classic Muppets mostly in the form of the Muppet Show, come on, you guys really think Disney will let that money slip away? I think it's taking time for two reasons, (1) There trying to make the best possible DVD set and (2) Disney top thing isn't the Muppets right now. We'll all Muppet fans in here (goes without saying) so we think Muppets should always be on the top of the list for any company. But Disney does have many movies, tv shows, there own channels, there own DVD sets, records, and many things to worry about releasing, so, sadly, Muppets will be put on the back burner for now.

    I'm just saying give it a little more time.
  13. crazed gonzo fa

    crazed gonzo fa Well-Known Member

    Does any one know the month it is expected to be releaseed?
  14. Marky

    Marky Well-Known Member

    (forgetting the audience type in a fan forum)

    ahem.... let me rephrase this...
    They're the Beatles, and Disney's treating them like (enter name of a valueless pop group here barely worth the plastic of reissuing anything).

    Sorry Monkees fans.
  15. Mistersuperstar

    Mistersuperstar Well-Known Member

    Good save! :p
  16. Bein Green

    Bein Green Member

    I think that no matter how much Disney might market the Muppets, they are not really in fashion any longer. They are smart, quirky, gentle, funny... those things are sadly not in style any longer. The DVDs and the Master Replicas Kermit is the way to go for not. Sell to those of us who revere the Muppets.
  17. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    I would have to agree with that. Even though we here are "die heart fans", it's overall, not what's really in with the younger kids (minus maybe Elmo and Pepe.) Shows like South Park and Family Guy is what rules right now, the kind of shows where no one really learns a lesson (at least on Family Guy, cause to be fair, there are some lessons on South Park.). The Muppets are pretty much on the "retro" thing.
  18. Marky

    Marky Well-Known Member


    I believe that they're current lack of hipness is due to the fact that Disney owns them now. Yuck. Had they kept working in the direction of IAVMMCM with NBC & MGM, they'd be well on their way back.
  19. JJandJanice

    JJandJanice Well-Known Member

    Sorry I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. As sad as it can be, kids don't want to see something with holesome messages have like the Mupepts. Believe, I've wacth many kids, and I'm always trying to entertain them with the Muppets. At least a good four out of five of them, usually don't want any part of it. I'm sorry Marky, but you really can't blame Disney too much for the Muppets, as you've put it, lack of hipness. Even before Disney owned the Muppets, they still won't really hitting as big as they did in the 70's and 80's. Muppet Christmas Carol and Muppet Treasure Island, did ok. Muppets From Space was a total flop. Kermit's Swamp Years did little to nothing. And IAVMMCM, I don't think it did too much to help either.

    Like I said I have wacth many people's kids in the past year or so, and trust me, I'm always trying to get them turned to Muppets. So far the only one I've gotton though is my little nine year old cousin. Most of the kids I wacth would rather wacth my Family Guy DVDs, or the the very least my Pixar Disney DVDs. But Muppets, no way. Muppets just aren't really what kids want nowadays, besides probably Elmo. It's sad but true.
  20. theprawncracker

    theprawncracker Well-Known Member

    Why aare so many people here SO pessimistic towards Disney? They've had a little over two years with the Muppets. And during those two years, they've had a change in their CEO, which is a MAJOR change for any company, not just Disney. You can't expect miracles to happen just like that. You have to give a company time to bounce back, or even bounce up in the first place. Give Disney time and something will happen with the Muppets, time is the key here. Not money, not that the Muppets are owned by Disney, but the fact that they need more time!

    And what is it with people thinking that Diz won't release TMS 2? There's a poll on the official website asking what cover we; THE FANS; want for the set that will be RELEASED. I just think it's awful that people here are becoming so pessimistic and hardly giving Disney a chance to get off their feet.

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