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Your Thoughts: Kermit and the Muppets on Jimmy Kimmel Live

Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by Phillip, Sep 29, 2003.

  1. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    Bill played Statler? Why not Steve? I thought Steve was the alternate.
     
  2. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Just worked out that way. Noting magical about it. BlueFrackle reports it came from a good source. Technically Statler is only assigned to Nelson and has no official understudy. :boo: :sing:
     
  3. JohnFranklin

    JohnFranklin New Member

    bill did do animal's voice on wed.

    the fight scene on friday was filmed in the "green room" of the jimmy kimmel show.

    three kermits were used to film friday's show.

    jf
     
  4. inturnaround

    inturnaround Member

    I enjoyed this week. I get the feeling that some people here feel that the Muppets should exist in a time warp, frozen from all external influences. I think the Muppets should (and do) reflect the show they're on.

    Kermit wouldn't tell the same jokes on Wayne Brady that he would have told on Jimmy Kimmel or "I Love the 70s". I have no problem with this. In fact, I am really impressed at Steve's ability to ad lib throughout the week.

    I guess a lot of people want Kermit to be "family entertainment". As some have pointed out, he never was intended to be that. Sure, he's not as blue as the Gorch Muppets, and certainly not as vulgar as Triumph the Insult Comic Dog, but Kermit has a great edge sometime that always makes me laugh.

    I think a lot of people who are complaining about Kermit's treatment on the show are unfamiliar with the show and its format as well as its host. Heck, every cohost has had jokes directed at them...it's just the nature of the show. It doesn't mean Jimmy doesn't like them. It's just the kind of humor he's known for.

    In short, I think that a lot of younger college age fans have been reborn with the Kermit revisit. Kermit's evolving and I, for one, am enjoying it.
     
  5. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    I've seen the show before and have the same complaints with or without Kermit. I feel Kimmel is such an underwhelming host, that he tries to deflect attention from that fact in every way he can - hence the rotating co host. I have never really found him funny. It's not necessarily because he's offensive, but that he's just not that sharp. He's pretty lowsy at interviewing guests. Didn't like him on Stein, The Man Show, Crank Yankers or this new talk show. Knowing ABC's cancel-happy nature, it will probably get the axe next year.

    I agree that Kermit's wit should reflect the context of his performance. Not many stars do that, but Whitmire has proven to be very good at it. Bill Barretta, appears to be one of the most spontaneous and funny of the performers these days. I wish Pepe had been on and set Kimmel straight.
     
  6. JohnFranklin

    JohnFranklin New Member

    you may get your wish

    jf
     
  7. Aaron

    Aaron Active Member

  8. sarah_yzma

    sarah_yzma Active Member

    ok that I would watch and understand a lot better....either Pepe or...well Pepe....he would be perfect for Kimmel

    now on Letterman, I would like to see Piggy or Johnny....as Jamie said they would keep him on his toes, and it would work out great, in my opinion..

    JF, I hope you keep us updated....or I will tickle you
     
  9. Mark Filton

    Mark Filton New Member

    Even though the thread is winding down I still want to say that yes the Muppets are for adults too and some of them smoke and drink beer but there is no way I want my Kermit sitting around guys who are talking about masturbation.

    BOOO! :boo:

    The new statue is so beautiful. Seeing Kermit sitting there with those idiots makes me want to run up to that TV show and take him back :D

    Put Johhny or Pepe in there then I'll agree with it.

    Kermit is too sweet :) for that junk.

    Stupid direction for Kermit. Is this the new Henson company??? :grouchy:

    Yuck :D
     
  10. JohnFranklin

    JohnFranklin New Member

    if i can, i will. i have probably already said to much! i wish i could tell just a fraction of the stuff i know about...the future....

    it's all good....


    jf
     
  11. Robin

    Robin New Member

    A better choice

    I think Gonzo and Rizzo would have been better than Kermit to host
    The Jimmy Kimmel show. They work well together and they can get away with being blue.

    I don't mind blue comedy being a comic myself. Jim Henson would be rolling over in his grave if he new how Kermit is becoming less
    and less the frog he created. When Jims hand left kermit so went the sole and heart of giant from the swamp. Who are we kidding!!!! When I want Kermit I watch real Kermit! Who saddly passed away about 13 years ago. The Henson Company needs quality control really really bad!!! I hope the young muppet fans
    realize how sad this really is. It like the parents (Henson and Oz) gave the keys
    of the castle to the kids and they burned the house down!!!!

    Henson was such a smart comic he could be funny without being crude.
    Steve is a great muppeteer and I love Rizzo. That is his baby. He does a great Kermit voice and movement. I think Steve needs to keep Kermit with the Henson personallity or not use him at all. It would be better to just make new ones.

    I'm old school Muppets and I need to be heard!!!!!!!
     
  12. frogboy4

    frogboy4 Inactive Member

    Oh, I don't believe that one bit. I think Kermit still has a lot of his original soul. If anything, he's a bit more youthful and spritely these days, but that's not a bad thing at all. Jim's genius will never be matched and I'm glad that Steve tries to bring something a little different to his take on Kermit. Otherwise he'd just be a faded facsimile rather than Whitmire's vibrant performance as the top frog. I think Jim has been deified by many fans since his death. He had a sharp side to him too and I see that in today's Kermit. It's best not to speculate about what Jim would feel about Steve's perfromance. Personally, I think Whitmire does the frog proud. :)

    Let's just hope he gets better gigs than Kimmel. :sleep: :boo:
     
  13. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    Not to mention that Jim did state that he wanted Steve to take over Kermit.
     
  14. Robin

    Robin New Member

    Steve

    I like Steve's work. I Just don't like that Kermit needs to change.
    Kermit was always portrayed a certian way. It is now like Kermit the teenage years. Yes! no matter what anyone says Kermit was better with Jim.
    That is not to say Steve is bad or untalented. Steve is great and of course
    I don't think anyone could do a better Job. Yes, I laugh at what he does with Kermit.

    Kermit was such an extention of Jim. That is why I'm an old school advocate of the muppets.

    Kimmel is funny by the way. I like his show. Kermit never had to sink to his level.
    I was very impressed wit S&W. they sounded and acted more like the originals than any other time I've seen them since the passing of both Richard and Jim.

    I'm not trying to anger anyone. I'm just a conservative muppet fan!!!!
    I love the Muppets very much.
     
  15. jediX

    jediX Active Member

    I've always preferred the Jim-era stuff anyway.
     
  16. Robin

    Robin New Member

    Cool!!!! You know the Christmas at Fozzies Farm house is a special that I enjoy watching every Christmas, because it reminds me of how good the muppets were at there peak. How much Jim loved his muppets. It leaves me with such happy feelings. Lets see Kimmel do that!!! lol lol
     
  17. NikZane

    NikZane Member

    O/t

    Ooh ooh... you're an oracle...??

    I just have a few questions:

    ...is Neo *really* the one?

    ...are Terminator robots *really* coming from the future to destroy, then save, then destroy, then save again, my buddy John & his mom Sarah?

    ...is transporter & transwarp technology *really* going to become a reality?

    Thanx in advance :)
     
  18. Fozzie Bear

    Fozzie Bear Well-Known Member

    No, but soon you'll be able to send yourself to Texas at a shipment rate.
     
  19. WiGgY

    WiGgY New Member

    I only saw one show last week so I can't really talk about how Kermit acted, but I do think that Kermit always had an adult wit to him. I don't know exactly what Kermit said last week, but I doubt it was anything too bad.

    When you are on a show that works blue you have to work blue or else get lost without being heard. I do wish that Kermit had not been booked on the show at all though, but they wanted a venue to push the DVD and thats who would take Kermit all week I guess.

    I would like to see Kermit guest host for Dave at some point, or maybe rotate various muppet characters throughout the week. We all know that Pepe in a suit is funny and that Pepe could make a great host. Jonny as a host would work well too. You could have Rowlf in there too. Then have Kermit, Gonzo, and Rizzo all as hosts. Maybe have Rizzo and Gonzo could host together like a Conan and Andy type thing. Basically, I think the muppets need to completly take over one show for at least one night to show the public just what they can do these days.
     
  20. Robin

    Robin New Member

    Sorry,
    I have to disagree. If you are booked on a show that does blue you don't have to also be blue. You can take the high ground. Besides Kermit won't do blue, he does green.
     


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