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Discussion in 'Muppet Appearances' started by Phillip, May 20, 2005.
oh yea and by the way i think Nealson has been gone for at least a year i think not to sure.
WELL THAT SUCKED!!!!!!
I don't even blame it on Disney, it's obvious there willing to let the muppets go crazy with there over the top humor, but the creative forces behind this sucked. The acting, script, even the sets SUCKED hard. The muppets are deep characters, yet I've been in kiddie pools deeper than this. The characters were terrible, no dept what so ever besides the cheezy cliche lines we all heard before. Dorothy was terrible other than the fact that she's mega hot but still I wish they hired the actors based on ability rather than star power. What they need to do is fire the muppet crew they have now, get in some new blood who truely understand the muppets, and are willing to write stories that are deep but still appealing for all age groups, this wasn't even cater to kids and it sucked.
Well, from what I saw it was alright. Unfortunatly I was helping my fiance pack stuff because he's moving in a few days, so I missed some parts of it, but I will be watching it again later (I taped it). There were definately some very humorous moments that have already been mentioned in this thread. I'm not a huge Ashanti fan, so that's probably the only part I would change. It was nice to see the Muppets, so I really have few complaints.
Don't waste your time, watch the original movies or something cuz though there were some funny parts, over-all it was terrible
i thought the first hour was boring. Nothing was going on that I cared for. The second hour was better than the first, but not that much. The movie itself wasn't done that well. I thought the characters were a little bland and didn't have any sparks to them.
Worst parts were seeing Rowlf the dog at the end with no lines and only having the Electric Mayhem members in the movie for a minute or two.
The only thing I liked in the movie was the ending where the original muppet characters were there with Ashanti.
That was when Kermit got his brains, er, bran, the Chef brought them onstage.
I think it was full of good Muppety stuff. It wasn't as good as a movie, but it had lots of stuff for diehard fans.
That must have been when my dad was bigging me with something. I knew I was going to miss something.....
Sam has always been tall. Look at the action figure.
I think kids will have nightmares about poor Kermit and Gonzo being torn apart.
IMHO, I liked how they were true to the books. No one could really outdo the Judy Garland movie, so why try?
That is also Multch on Muppets Tonight!
Did anybody else notice how it seems for the most part that everybody over 18 liked it or appriciated it, and under 18 didn't? What is that all about!
Well I liked it!
One coplaint is the acting of Ashani, man that girl sucked, they should have gone with Jessica if they were doing the singer thing, she has a backround with the Muppets and could have livened her roll up a bit! Over all I did really like it, Sam was to tall, Scooter sounded perfect! Pepe was funny as ever, Gonzo and Fozzie were AWSOME! I also loved Piggy's good witch "Huggies" thing with the Munchkins! Funny to see her so nice!
Did you catch where Pepe called Sam "Big Bird?" Too funny!
I DID appreciate seeing Bean in the background, though, along with Chip from Guerrilla Television (JHH). At least they haven't forgotten they exist.
Overall, I liked it! It certainly wasn't on par with TMM or even MCC, but it was still a fun TV special. It kinda reminded me of a Muppet Show sketch --zany and off the wall, but not without some tender moments.
Well, my expectations were LOW once i found out that it was the same director as Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie. That was a pile of manure.
Have to say, this was better, but not better enough. And i think it has a lot to do with directing (more so than writing or performers).
Basically, the way i see it, the last good thing the muppets did was Treasure Island. Since then it's been steadily downhill. MFS was a number of notches down, VMMCM was a few dozen more notches down. Oz is a few notches up from VMMCM.
We've been on a Muppety roller coaster since Jim left us!
Sorry to those fans whom i offend. I love The Muppets as much as you. I promise. But this just isn't their best era.
I thought it was great. Very well cast (as far as the muppets), downright funny at points, and enjoyable to watch. I admit, I don't think Ashanti and Queen Latifah had much chemistry and it put a good scare into me the first 15 minutes. I was trying to figure out how I could have been so wrong. But I really enjoyed it overall. Good job.
i thought it was good. it was no mm or gmc but it was still good. i like how they went back to the book and not the 1938 movie. i wonder if many people know that the 38 movie was hardly like the book. oh well, ashanti wasnt that good but she did have her moments where she was all right. i'm surprised no one has mentioned the muppeteers cameo at the end of the movie. that was a nice surprise.
Well... I liked it. I think. There were lots of goods bits, but something seems to be missing, something about the way it was put together didn't seem to work. Maybe, as someone else said, it lacked energy. It didn't seem to evoke the necessary emotion. Even though MFS and VMMCM had problems, I still loved them because I still really felt that muppet energy and love, and it evoke emotions that made me want to see them again and again. Unlike a lot of people around here, I don't care much about whether all the old characters get their spots or how many songs are sung. I just like them to do a great job on the movie. And this movie was good but it wasn't great
And for those who do care about the old characters, I'm surprized no one has mentioned Foo Foo. Has Foo Foo even been shown in any of the movies before?
Also, I'd like to mention that I found the part with Kermit and Gonzo being torn apart, the most disturbing muppet moment I have ever seen.
i loved it i feel it was something all muppet fans have been waiting for and whata great story to do it to my youth paster and i sat and watched the whole thing( me being head puppeteer of the church and her being a wizard of oz fan) we laughed till our sides hurt ahhhh awsome .best thing for me was seeing my fav muppet tri back together
symbolism in piggy's hair
I'm taking a symbolic look at miss piggy's hair. If you don't go for the whole symbolism stuff in books/literature/etc, feel free to skip this post. I don't blame you in the least, I'm honestly shocked at myself for writing this.
Now the first time we see miss piggy is in the "real world" and she has a new hairstyle that we haven't seen before. And yes, this piggy seemed awfully cruel. but put yourself in her designer shoes and see it this way: she just sat through a bunch of lousy auditions, they're finally about to go, and here comes another starry-eyed singing hopeful. Of course her fuse is gonna be short. But I'll get back to this style.
Next time we see piggy is as the wicked witch of the east, lifting up a trailer. This time her hair is in the stick straight unnaturally flat blonde form it has been the past few years. Which I personally despise, because it just isn't her at all. here comes the symbolism: this hairstyle has been killed with the witch of the east, right at the start of the movie. it's gone, hallelujah, as is the cardboard cutout miss piggy we've had for the past few years. You know, the one who almost never says "kissy kissy" and a lot of newer fans aren't fond of at all.
we are greeted by piggy the good witch of the north, whose hair is beautiful, long and flowing. It's reminicent of the way piggy's hair used to be, but it's whiter. symbolism: the old piggy is back- sort of. the company remembers her the way she used to be, and is starting toget re-aquainted. The north witch is so sugary-sweet it's scary- that's from the old vet's hospital skits. after all, she was a nurse. She had to be somewhat nice. And I can't help thinking of GMC, when one of the models fakes an injury- "Oh don't worry, Marla, I'll stay right here with you!" of course that was before she got a better offer. But still, it was there.
When we see piggy again, she is the wicked witch of the west. Curly black hair. Not the piggy we know, but in the opening of season 1 of TMS, she was shown with a brown wig. symbolism: there's two parts. one is that black hair is everything piggy is not, and it's melted along with her. the other is that, once again, they remember the REALLY old piggy. but she still dies, so they're not keeping her. they're just reminding us.
And finally, Piggy as the good witch of the south. She has the same hair as real-world piggy. it's short and curly, and it looks more natural than witch of east. This is the new piggy. The cruelty she had earlier with this hair is balanced very well by her current kindness. We can once again see miss piggy as being a beautiful pig, and not just a pig who sees herself as beautiful. and might I add that kermit doesn't seem to mind the new 'do at all...
I'm really hoping that this style of piggy's hair stays for at least a little bit. Of course I would prefer that it go back to the way it was on TMS, but this is very good. It allows for a personality, and something more than a cardboard cutout. It could be better, but it satisfies me.
For now, at least.
Oh, and by the way, I liked the rest of the movie, too. After watching it, my first thought was to watch it again. Then I realized I couldn't.
I can't believe my DVR messed up for the first time since I've had it...aaarrrggghhh!! What a time for that to happen
Does anyone have a copy on DVD-R from the broadcast? I'd love to trade, please send me a PM or email at firstname.lastname@example.org
Thanks so much
Will there be an MC review soon? I'M A DESPERATE BRITISH PERSON TRYING TO SEE THIS MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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