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New behind-the-scenes book to celebrate Fraggle Rock

Discussion in 'Fraggle Rock' started by GelflingWaldo, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    :D
    Oh, okay then :). It's hard to tell on the internet...
    I guess it will be a long wait for this book yet *sighs*:sympathy:
  2. Pork

    Pork Active Member

    Yeah, that's one thing I dislike about typing, something you say may give people a totally different idea if they read it wrong or in the wrong tone of..voice.

    *waits for the book*
  3. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Right. :) For even with emoticons, it's hard telling true intentions on the 'net.
  4. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    Well, if it was all voice based posting that would be something, but then I think I would be too shy. Lots of people online say my voice sounds funny:cry:. But they are youtube people after all..
  5. Pork

    Pork Active Member

    Yeah, I reckon it would be weird using voice based posting. I mean, the main reason I say stuff on here is because I can type it. If I had to say it I probably wouldn't, cause I"m too shy XD. But typing things makes it so much easier for me to say what I want to say, but yeah, sometimes hard to get the idea across.

    And Songa, I doubt your voice sounds funny. And seriously, who cares what somebody sounds like, it's what they say not the sound of their voice. Annoying YouTube people. I can see how that would be frustrating.
  6. zns

    zns Well-Known Member

    You know, now that we have learned that the Season Four box set has been moved to October, it dosn't seem like they really had to delay the book as well. I know it's not likely to happen, but they could still try to release it in September. Do they have a time schedule yet? :smirk:
  7. wwfpooh

    wwfpooh New Member

    Agreed. People should be proud of who they are, voices aside.
  8. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    I've always liked my voice, it's easy to pretend I am eight years old whenever telemarketers call :coy:
  9. Pork

    Pork Active Member

    Now that is a treasure! I wish I could do that.
  10. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    I saw your blog ...you're mad (in a good way) lol! Actually you remind me of Yeardley Smith (lisa simpson).

    I've been watching Fraggle clips on Youtube, hadn't seen it for a long time. Reminds me how much i think the USA Doc is so inferior to the UK lighthouse keeper. You guys over the pond really missed an aspect that made the show even better. Having the Fraggles living in the rock under the lighthouse and havin a darker more mysterrious Doc really added to the feel of the whole Fraggle concept.
  11. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    You know, in my head I sound like Lisa to :confused: (You know, how everyone has an in their head voice and then the voice everyone else hears....
    Anyway, I've seen the UK Doc and I don't really like him, I like our USA/Canada Doc better, he just had more spunk to me, call him too happy go lucky or normal or crazy if you want but... really dark and mysterious in the 'real' world just doesn't link to me with FR as well, because I liked how many of the Doc parts were light hearted and then you went down to the rock and it was more dark and otherworldly in contrast...It balanced things to me, and really made the rare times when our Doc was dealing with dark/creepy/sad things stand out when they did happen....

    Of course, maybe it is just a case of having grown up with different Doc's so our tastes are different, and it's not some much that one is better than the other or really missing out on anything, its just what we like, and might have to do with the different reasons they made each part of the world have their own 'Doc' in the first place...
    To me all the other Doc's that I've been able to find video of just come off as wooden next to our USA/Canada Doc, but then again, he's the one I'm use to and love like a pretend uncle *lol*:).
  12. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    I'm not going to say whether Doc or the Captain is better; it's apples and oranges. I will say though, I was amazed at how much darker and introspective the Captain's scenes are. We really are often deprived in the US, lol. Still I think Doc's scenes have humor and superb chemistry between Doc and Sprocket which is hard to find. Plus Doc's Moment on the phone with Ned was brillant acting.
  13. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    I can't help it, I like slapstick over dark..I grew up watching a lot of shows from the UK to, so I guess it is just my personal character and taste. I'm not saying that the UK character can't be good for anyone, he just isn't for me and I don't feel like I was ever deprived from not knowing him before:o No hate meant, to each their own :excited:
  14. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    Oh I agree, I don't think we should be saying one country was deprived over another. I mean if the Fraggles and the Gorgs managed to work things out, we should be able to, lol.
  15. Traveling Matt

    Traveling Matt New Member

    In order to produce each item well (with proper attention to detail and quality), considerable effort and time needs to be put into each.

    My guess is that, with the two deadlines so close together (and many of the same people probably working on both projects), there just isn't enough time to do them both well.
  16. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    I agree, Doc did have a good chemistry with Sprocket, probably better than the Captain in that sense. I just thought the more darker Captain and especially the lighthouse setting was more suitable to the whole Fraggle "ROCK" concept than a humourous Doc - its supposed to be Sprocket doing the humor. It's not a patriotic thing to me, i've seen both. In fact if i could maybe have Doc (but a little less slapstick) in the lighthouse setting it would have probably been perfect. I thought Doc/Captain should maybe be a little mysterious but Fulton Mckay was probably a bit too dark.
  17. heralde

    heralde Well-Known Member

    It's really interesting to think about! That's true that Captain fit better with the dark weirdness of Fraggle Rock and I love that. And in the same way, Doc fit with the Fraggles' humor and character relationships. And his scene with Ned on the phone fit with the show's more adult themes.
  18. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    Maybe that explains why to me, FR is more about the humor and character relationships:).
  19. Luke

    Luke Active Member

    The rock parts still had a bit of a mysterious and magical atmosphere to them tho, that wasn't a major thing to you? The character relationships were really important, i thought there were elements of humor about it, little comments, asides or skits that were funny, but it really didn't come over as a slapstick thing for me like the Muppets do. I think the whole message thing was part of that.
  20. Redsonga

    Redsonga Active Member

    Of course they were magical, but I never thought of that as something I sort of had to go the extra mile to soak up, the characters did that for me by treating the magic as such and everyday part of their culture ^.^. I never thought of it as mysterious or scary in an otherworldly way even if it was a secret world, it was sort of a natural one to me^.^ ..But then, I was raised in a woods, often took walks at night, and easily see magic in those sort of places even today :).
    It may not have been the overcrazness of the muppet show, but I think in it's own way FR was just as funny. It was very character driven IMHO. The moment they all came across something new and exciting it was often the fraggles themselves as characters that made the story, not the whatever it was :).
    While the message was a part of the rock, it never came across to me as a dark one, it always seemed to be full of light and hope and magic , and not some forbidding serious thing that shadowed the show around...Of course there were dark times when not listening to the message brought trouble and near death, but that nearly always came from the actions of the characters themselves rather than any dark nature of the rock IMHO. Of course there were dangerous places in the rock, but there are those in every world :excited:...I've always thought many things eat fraggles....


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