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Old Nick Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Greengables95, Sep 7, 2012.


What was your favorite show?

  1. Clarissa Explains It All

  2. Ren and Stimpy

  3. Are You Afraid of the Dark?

  4. Roundhouse

  5. All That

  6. Rugrats

  7. The Amanda Show

  8. Other

  9. Don't Care

  10. The Adventures of Pete & Pete

Multiple votes are allowed.

  1. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    So.. anyone wanna talk about a classic Nicktoon that isn't Rugrats?

    I really hate how on later episodes of Ren and Stimpy (the John K being fired episodes) try too hard to make Ren lose all control of his sanity in a vapid attempt to recreate the original episodes. There's really quite a lot of depth and structure in Ren's insanity in the older episodes. Take Stimpy's Invention, for example. Sure, it looks like Ren, having the Happy helmet on, is insanely happy... but he's sentient, can't do anything about it, and basically forced to be happy against his will. You can tell he's in great pain, which explains his line delivery, and over powering the Happy Helmet just enough to grab a hammer and destroy it, giving a murderous glare at Stimpy and strangling him for putting him through such a well meaning, yet horrific state.

    Then you have Hermit Ren, where he tries to go Space Madness mad again, and it's disturbing in all the wrong ways. Even worse when he's forced into an inorganic breakdown in Aloha Hoek.
  2. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    When it comes to Ren and Stimpy, I find it unacceptable that John K., the CREATOR, got fired. I feel that the creator of a series should be entitled to NOT get fired, unless maybe he went to jail or something like that. The creator can quit, the network can cancel the show altogether, but the creator should not get fired at all.
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  3. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    John K (or anything remotely linked to him) has a history of going well over budget. That's the reason why they had so many clip shows in Mighty Mouse The New Adventures. The internal drama with angry letter writing grannies was an excuse to get him kicked out so they could find cheaper ways to make the show. He is supposedly impossible to work with (apparently Billy West hated him), so I can imagine there were other internal problems.

    So we got a sliding scale of worse through the productions of the episodes and a recycled, rejected Tiny Toons cartoon as one of the better ones.

    Though, frankly, I don't see ANY of that working as a Tiny Toons short. They look very out of character in that storyboard. Especially Hampton. That should really have been a Hampton/Furball cartoon in the style of the Porky/Sylvester haunted house toons.
  4. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I've noticed over the years that on Rugrats characters might mention something kids wouldn't exactly know but vaguely or even deliberately not say what they are. I know, I could have just asked my parents or somebody else, but at the time I didn't think to ask older people to explain obscure references I saw on tv shows or movies (maybe I thought they wouldn't know... I know when I was younger whenever I asked the name of a Muppet character I didn't know the name of other people never knew the answers, either... And there have been times I asked something and somebody gave some joking answer that I always suspected wasn't the real answer and have learned the real answers by now).

    For example, in the "Garage Sale" episode, after Didi and Stu disagree on whether to sell Stu's disco suit, Angelica asks what disco is, but instead of explaining it Did just says "it's something that happened a long time ago and it's never coming back (like Stu had thought), so don't you worry". This one I didn't really care that I didn't know (though I dislike how prideful Didi sounded about disco never coming back).

    And in "My Friend Barney", when Didi's feet become sore from running a 10K with Betty, Betty remarks "I told you it was a K", Didi remarks "but you didn't tell me what a K was". For years I had wondered what it was, too.... And later I read that in the original script Didi actually said something like "But you didn't tell me that a K was a running marathon". That would have been better for 12-year-old-me to have heard.

    And while not really important or even something anybody could explain to me if I asked, in the episode where Grampa has a bowling tournament, there's a running gag where Grampa keeps trying to tell the story of a previous match he had lost to his opponent, only to be interrupted each time. Then at the end when they ask to hear the story he no longer feels like telling it. I've read that he actually did get to tell his story in the original script, and I'd like to see the details.
  5. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    The fact there is no choice or mention for Rocko's Modern Life(the best Nick show ever) on there, makes this whole thread full of fail:)

    Seriously, Rocko's Modern Life. As much as I still kinda like Zim, nothing compares to Heffer, Filbert, Rocko and the gang.
  6. beaker

    beaker Well-Known Member

    I didn't have cable til about 1994, so that's when I started watching Nick. In the early through late 80s and into the early 90's it was all about network cartoons(back when saturday morning and after school was all about cartoons)

    I feel bad for kids today with the ADHD bad animation flash style junk...tho now and then they do have quality stuff(like Avatar/Korra)

    Actually my tv cartoon viewing was about late 70s through early 2000's with Recess. Let's just say I had a very long childhood(and Im happy people still think Im in my early 20's) The early 90's had a lot of amazing cartoons, but I love Pepper Ann, Invader Zim and Recess. But to me nothing beats Muppet Babies and that whole era of 84-90.
  7. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    I assume there's a poll limit. I voted "don't care" because I have so many favorites that aren't options (as well as some favorites that are).

    It's interesting, I know of a few people who are at least five years older than me, and yet they seem to have grown up on many of the early-1990s Nickelodeon shows as well.
  8. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    I grew up with 90s Nickelodeon. Best time to be a kid, plus The Muppets were on there too. :) Ren & Stimpy was great, my 2nd favorite show ever (The Muppet Show being my first of course :) ). I got to meet Billy West at my local Comic Con and got my Ren & Stimpy DVDs signed, what an honor :) I even got to meet the guy who does the voice of Rocko of Rocko's Modern Life and got my season 1 DVD signed. Anyone know that the complete Rocko's Modern Life is coming to DVD this February :) It's totally on my list. But yeah I also loved Angry Beavers and KaBlam, they were a couple of my favorite shows that I watched all the time. Kenan & Kel and All That were my opinion the best live action shows they had. Nick Arcade was pretty good, Legends of the Hidden Temple was great. I loved the talking head. lol Weinerville I LOVED, I want the DVDs when they come out. Boney cracked me up where he would tell a rotten story to the kids and make then cry and run away "NOW GETT OUTTA HERE! I'm Boney, I'm Boney, Leave Me Aloney!" lol The last good show Nickelodeon had in my opinion was Invader Zim. Huge Fan! As soon as the original DVDs were released, I bought them as soon as they came out, the bonus features disc and house was hard to get but I got it :) The writing was amazing, it wasn't just the comedy but the strong sci-fi story writing that was involved. But what's so Ironic about Zim and Dib is they are basicly quite simular. They are both social outcasts and society doesn't except them so they want to do something courageous that would grant them acceptance. But what's interesting is their goals are ironicly against each other from the very begaining. I don't think Dib ever found out that Zim wasn't really a true invader of his Irkin species and Zim never took the time to see Dib's acceptance in society. There was never a proper ending to the series, just a Christmas special and a few unfinished episodes where the audio sound track was made but no animation. I noticed that there's this fan team that's animating Invader Zim episodes online but what's funny is that they got Andy Berman do revive the role of Dib, plus other fans created this Invader Zim Convention, DoomCon I think it's called and they got the original team to go there. Richard Horvitz, Andy Berman, Jhonen Vasquez, and the rest. :) Plus Rocko's Modern Life's cast is doing live script reading shows in California. :)

    I currently have a DVR so I'm getting a chance to watch some of these shows again. Especially Doug and Hey Arnold which I haven't seen in ages. lol Most of them are coming out with DVDs and iTunes but I'm still waiting for KaBlam, that to me was the hippest show to start off the Friday nights on Snick. Everyone here remember Snick right? Where Nickelodeon started showing the more risky cartoons and shows like Are You Afraid of The Dark and Roundhouse (I haven't seen much of that) And Clarissa Explains it All (I rarely seen this show too, though I've became a huge fan of Sabrina the Teenage Witch since it has Nick "Angry Beavers" Bakay as Salem. Plus I love Cats :) )

    Funny thing about Nickelodeon is every time there was an adult cartoon on the channel, they would become a huge hit then get canceled. Ren & Stimpy....well got taken over and John Kricfalusi got fired because he never meet his due dates and Nickelodeon thought that his psycho dark humor was a bad influence to children especially the banned episode "Man's Best Friend". Plus there's tons of stuff that got edited out of the original shows permanately. Even the DVD set Ren & Stimpy UNCUT isn't really uncut, stuff I probably won't get away with mentioning on this forum. lol Especially one of the episode names. lol Rocko got canceled because of advertisers having a hard time selling toys during the Rocko timeslot because they were attracting more College students then kids so Nick wanted Joe Murray to tone the show down and Joe stuck with his art and said to them he's sticking with the original agreement so they canceled the show. Apparently Nick was in fact searching for risky cartoons due to the success of Ren & Stimpy at the time. Angry Beavers ended because Nick didn't want to fund another season so The Angry Beavers teams recorded the audio sound track for the final episode. The audio is from a podcast Richard Horvitz was a part of plus it floats around YouTube. It's really funny but it was never made because the whole thing was a satirical mockery of Nickelodeon canceling the show. The Beavers discover they aren't real, they are fictional cartoon characters which is one of the guidelines in creating a show for Nick they couldn't break and that was the characters admitting they aren't real. So Norbert and Daggot start calling each other Nick and Richard (inside joke) and at the end they sadly say goodbye. Daggot asks Norbert since the show isn't on the air anymore and they aren't going to get paid for reruns would that mean they can get away with saying anything, Norb says yes, Daggot says "There's one thing that I've always wanted to tell you. SHUT UP!". This alone might not sound like a great joke but then again, it's an inside joke. Because there's an episode where Daggot told Norbert to Shut Up and a parent called up and complained. So Nickelodeon had to get Richard Horvitz to dub Daggot saying "Hush Up!" over the episode. lol And finally the ending of Invader Zim. Zim got canceled because of "The Bloody Gir Controvery" Jhonen Vasquez who's a dark cartoonist in his own right with his work of underground comix, he wanted an episode where Gir the Robot had blood coming out of his head and Nickelodeon said NO! It went back and forth, even a jam or jelly gag and they said no. They sent Nickelodeon a concept drawing and they said NO! So the Invader Zim team snuck the graphic design image they made into the last few episodes of the show in weird places like when ever there's a night sky, the Bloody Gir Image would be slightly visable, or if there's a worm hole or an explosion it would be a flash frame. But the most odvious was the Halloween episode, when one of the pipes come toward the screen like it usually does in the original opening, the image does flash on the screen. The Zim team got caught, and the show got canceled unfortunately. But I love that about these cartoonists on how they rebel against what was a threat to their artistic vision and creation. It's like the old saying, going down with your ship and as an artist I couldn't agree more. I'd probably would have pulled something like what the Angry Beavers team did myself. lol

    Anyway sorry about the long post, I'm a HUGE classic Nickelodeon fan. My best friend is too, in fact that's how we became friends over a decade a go. :)
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  9. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure if there's really any hatred between Billy and John. There was a Howard Stern episode where Howard was trying to prank Billy by getting John K over to discuss what happened with the Ren & Stimpy take over. Billy didn't seem to have any bitter feelings and vise versa. There was a bit of depate over Billy being asked on the creation of Ren & Stimpy and Billy answered the question on a certain TV talk show on the inspiration of the characters voices without mentioning John K. It was quite an episode, Billy's wife calls on the show very upset with Howard Stern and basically Howard trying to turn up the heat and Billy does seem a bit uncomfortable in the episode. When I meet Billy, I mentioned that I seen this episode and he replied that Howard is a something or other, I didn't catch what he said because it was quite loud and busy at ComicCon. lol But Billy answered with a smile on his face so I don't think there's any bitterness at all.

    All I know was Billy turned down Stimpy's revival for Ren & Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon and I can certainly say I don't blame him. I didn't like Adult Party. Ren Seeks Help was the only one I really liked. I thought that was truely John K's final greatest work before his stuff became all weird for the sake of weird and surreal and no longer psychodrama which I loved about the early Spumco web cartoons and Ren & Stimpy cartoons. Eric Bowza who took over for Stimpy did a good job but it's not the same. Firedogs 2 was also good but shouldn't have been a sequal to the first season classic which didn't relate to the episode in anyway. It was just Ralph Bakshi as a Ren & Stimpy character. I loved Ralph's character who's this giant harry Lummox kind of a cross between Kawalski from Fake Dad and George Liquor and John Kricfalusi's character of his dad in Visit to Anthony. Kind of like that, this Big harry guy who's HUGE and would crush anyone with his bare hands and turn then into dust in seconds. Very tough character but Ralph's version of the fire cheif would have an insecure side where he would turn to Ren and say "Do you love me Tommy?" and Stimpy says "Sure, Ren loves you." "NOOOOO! I WANT TO HEAR IT FROM TOMMY'S LIPS!" lol Though I think Ralph could have been a new character instead of replacing Harris Pete's Fire Cheif which he revived in the few seconds in the opening. But the rest of adult party is just discusting in my opinion. Very sexist, just sexual humor through out and just not like what The Ren & Stimpy Show was and what it stood for which is to me not so much the toilet humor but the psychodrama and a bit of a surreal humor to it like Log and Powdered Toast Man.
  10. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    Part of it was because Spike kept telling him to push things. The "Pitcher/catcher" stuff specifically. Personally, I saw the one where Stimpy was pregnant, and Ren went from lovably nasty to absolutely as disgusting and unlikable as a character can get. I respect what they were trying to do, but they went too adult. The best bits of Ren and Stimpy were cleverly hinting at things. Of course, I didn't dislike it as much as some of the more terrible of the Games Animation episodes. The ones that were trying too hard to be weird and were just disturbing instead of funny.
  11. FrackleFan2012

    FrackleFan2012 Well-Known Member

    Well, I grew up in the late 90's and early 00's. I still have the Rugrats VHS's with me though our family got rid of our VCR player a few years ago. I also love The Amanda Show. I love the commercial bits they did throughout the show. :)
  12. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    I remember it was just days before my middle school graduation and I was staying up late to see the revival of Ren & Stimpy and just being shocked seeing Upward and Onward. And being, "THAT'S THE EPISODE?" lol Yeah I didn't like the Pitcher/Catcher gags, the log sawing and the other innuendos. Stimpy's Pregnant was pretty back and the whole thing of Stimpy being a mother, it's already been done in the famous Spumco Christmas Special "Son of Stimpy" (aka Stimpy's First Fart). I kind of like the Games Animation episodes more then Adult Party, sure it's not the same and they are more surreal and badly drawn though there's a couple I like. Hermit Ren was good, any episode with Wilber Cobb lol That old geezer cracks me up. lol "That's right, I killed the Dinosaurs with my bear hands, I ran then over with my truck!" lol That was from the episode where Wilber Cobb was educating Ren & Stimpy .......poorly on his knowledge of the Dinosaurs and he was coming up with all these bogus theories on how they became extinct like "TOO MUCH TELEVISION!, No wait, they drank out of a dirty dog bowl, no wait, they all thought they were Superman and jumped off a building!" lol I also liked the Haggis McHaggis episode, the scene where he reunites with his faithful German Sheppard Dog, well he sees him anyway buying the doll of him (which I think is spoofing John K's George Liqour doll sold around the time) and the dog looks at the doll with loving eyes, then it cuts to this scary drooling psycho dog that rips the doll to shreds. That's what I really missed about Ren & Stimpy and even John Kricfalusi's early work like his webcartoon (I can't mention the name on here), it was that scary psycho aspect of his work. I loved that! There used to be a Spumco Ren & Stimpy Archive Head Quarters website which can only be found searching old Ren & Stimpy fan site links and going to archive.org's time machine. But I used to go on that site a lot, they was all these details of footage that was cut and the difference between the unfinished Spumco stories animated by Games like Ren's Brain, Untamed World 2: Lair of The Lummox, etc. Man, I can chat about Ren & Stimpy for hours. lol

    By the way, I wanted to mention Rocko a little bit. I bought season 1 on DVD and I was so amazed that it's uncut, there's so many hidden gags in the show. lol Even the banned episode "Leap Frogs". :) Rocko was a great show, I preferred Rocko instead of Camp Lazlo. Rocko was totally more cutting edge. :)
  13. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    Wasn't there one with his Sumo Wrestler that keep singing "Yummy, Yummy, Yummy!" lol I'd love to see that one again. Though I much preferred All That, Kenan & Kel and Cousin Skeeter.
  14. Drtooth

    Drtooth Well-Known Member

    The earlier Games ones were good to tolerable. The longer the show went on, the worse those episodes became. It's like they were trying too hard to be the John K episodes and failing completely at it. Ren always had to have a nervous breakdown and they were no where near as deep and funny as they were with "Stimpy's Fan Club" or "Space Madness." I especially dislike Aloha Hoek (except for Dom Deluise of course), especially the bizarre ending where they're Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble as Russian Spies. That wasn't funny, that was kinda disturbing. They couldn't even get the nonsequitors right. There was something intangible about the Spumco episodes that they just couldn't capture. Still... I freaking love Stimpy's Cartoon Show. And Wilbur Cobb.

    Lazlo suffers from not having the same writing cast and the fact the characters are kids. Rocko was a show about crazy adults. Looking back on it, we all have to be surprised it was a kid's show. Ren and Stimpy, Angry Beavers, and CatDog clearly worked on some Looney Tune principle, but if you look at every Nickelodeon cartoon ever made, most of the shows had children as the main cast. Rugrats, Doug, Fairly Oddparents, Hey Arnold. A writing teacher I once had was talking about how kids like reading about other kids most of all, and if you look at the more successful shows, they star kids. But Rocko seemed like a crazy cartoon sitcom where he had to deal with cartoony, exaggerated adult things. It seemed like it could have been made to adults but was sold to kids as a kid's show. That's why they tried to get phone sex jokes in there. Lazlo just follows the "kids watching kids" thing. It is about kid's summer camp, after all.
  15. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    I love Stimpy's Fan Club, that and Fake Dad and the Carbunkle Cartoon animated episodes are my favorites :). I like know by heart almost every single line from Ren's psycho rants in Stimpy's Fan Club and Sven Hoek (even the cut lines).

    According to Joe Murray's book, he did say that Camp Lazoo was indeed a kids show and Rocko was an adult project and was pitched to Nickelodeon because they did say they wanted more risk but it feel apart when advertisers couldn't sell their product. In the words of Krusty the Clown of The Simpsons "That's showbiz for yeah, one moment your on top, the next you some smo working in a box factory" then Bart replies "Boy, showbizness is kind of cruel isn't i..." and Krusty slams the door on Bart. lol Until the day Hollywood is all ran my artists I suppose.

    Yeah I think that's probably why most cartoons now a days feature kid like characters so it would easily be aimed toward kids. I remember reading a Nickelodeon submission policy forum for people who wanted to pitch to the network, one of the guidelines is to create either kids characters or animal characters with an inner child which was interesting. Though a lot of the 90s Nick shows were very cutting edge which I loved because I can enjoy these shows as an adult still. Like Doug and Hey Arnold, the characters are kids but it deals with subject matters of romance and anxiety, stuff even adults can relate too. Kenan & Kel and All That were basicly homages to classic vaudeville golden age character comedy with modern twists. Kenan & Kel was Abbott and Costello, Laurel and Hardy, straight man and comic. While all that takes kind of a G / PG rated SNL and Monty Python's Flying Circus kind of sketch show. Both had their edgy adult humor yet they had a very surreal element to them which makes it silly enough for anyone to enjoy. I miss family shows like that. There's something about classic character comedy where you can practicably do just about anything and not be too vulgar or political with it. Not that I don't have a heart of R rated / Mature Adult Comedy and Satire which I love when it's done right, but I also like that classic screwball slapstick innocence that's rarely seen today. Now a days, go see a G or PG rated movie and it's just juvinille toilet humor and modern slang "Like whatever!" and all that modern stuff which would be out of date years from now. But character comedy is just timeless, and I like that sort of thing :)

    Though I wanted to respond to the Aloha Hoek episode for a second. That's the one when they were living inside a dead whale right? Full of maggots and bugs. lol Personally I think that's a bit more creative then what John K did with Upward and Onward, the premiere of Adult Party when it's Ren & Stimpy living in a homeless person's mouth. Sure it's a little more surrealistically funny but it's limited for gags in my opinion. It's like Games did several versions of episodes like that, Ren & Stimpy on an island or I'm not sure if it's the same one where There's a father crab that's a spoof of Moe of the Three Stooges that lives in a tree. But yeah, I see what you mean.Games episodes, the plots are just surreal and no story structure like in the Spumco episodes. Games would make the episodes just plane dumb for the sake of it which I think some are funny and some weren't that great. Though I did like the ending with Ren flying away with the giant fly into the sun. lol But bad ones I remember was the Out West revival where Ren & Stimpy are Albert and Ewants Kids, Farm Hicks I think the episode was called. I liked the gag where they smash their teeth and need to swallow rocks just to chew their food just like what chickens do. lol But the rest, UGH! There's an episode where they have a meat truck and they have a meat puppet show, instead of an ice cream truck. lol Chicken in a Drawer was good with the old man with a stick up him, A Chuckie Cheeses parody I believe. But Yeah, I can totally see how it's just a bunch of John K's ex-employees trying to copy the Spumco stuff poorly overdoing the Meat jokes and stuff. I read that after Ren & Stimpy got canceled, Bob Camp appoligized to John K for taking over Ren & Stimpy and asking his job at Spumco back and John didn't give it to him. On the DVDs, John K gets to talk to some of the ex-Spumco crew members like Bill Wray (I love his paintings :) ), I think Jim Gomez (who has a puppet movie that I can't say the name of, Billy West is in it) but Bob Camp and Billy West weren't in the commentary unfortunately. It would have been nice. And of course the late Michael Pataki (The original George Liqour, he passed away last year, John K is working on "Cans Without Labels" which is probably the last thing Michael did of George. It's an indie short, John raised money online for it and he's going to use Toon Boom software to make it. I'd love to see it, I've seen his pitch on a Comic Con video. Looks funny and kind of back to his roots.
  16. mupcollector1

    mupcollector1 Well-Known Member

    By the way, I wanted to ask about Doug. There's two versions, the classic Nickelodeon one which I love and the Disney one where Billy West isn't in it. I only seen the movie, anyone seen the Disney version? Is it as good?
  17. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    One thing I've been wondering about regarding the Rugrats episode "Pickles vs Pickles": At the end after Drew apologizes to Angelica for trying to get her to eat broccoli and promising not to do so again, Angelica gets out a picture of the basic food groups, crosses out broccoli (and had crossed out other foods or food groups) and says, "works every time". What is this supposed to be implying? Is it implying that Angelica had some type of osmosis/hypnotism that caused her parents to have nightmares? Is it showing that if she refuses hard enough they'll change their minds?

    Considering how often Angelica's parents spoil her, it's often surprising when there are episodes where she either gets denied something or gets grounded (seems Tommy's parents punish her more). Besides "Pickles vs Pickles" where they send her to her room for refusing to eat her broccoli, there's "Runaway Angelica" where Drew finally punishes her (and is glad he was finally able to do so) leading to her running away from home, the episode where Angelica thinks she's invisible (due to the adults ignoring her after Drew scored "49 and a half" on a "is your child a spoiled brat?" quiz), "Cuffed" where Drew and Charolette refuse to let Angelica have the toy handcuffs they intend on giving to charity, "Chuckie's Wonderful Life" where Drewcatches her with a CD she stole from Chazz and states she won't get desert for a week, "Jonathan Babysits" where Charolette incorrectly thinks Angelica made the house dirty and punishes her for one or two weeks, the episode where Angelica uses one of Stu's inventions to make her voice sound like Charolette's, where she's not allowed to have any more candy after having a cavity, and the episode where Angelica pretends Cynthia is lost because Drew refuses to buy her a new Cynthia and where she's not allowed to have candy as well.
  18. Sgt Floyd

    Sgt Floyd Well-Known Member

    I'd go with the latter. She's a spoiled brat and her parents probably give into her because they just don't want to deal with her whining and acting up. Or she's that manipulative and they are scared of her *shrugs*
  19. fuzzygobo

    fuzzygobo Well-Known Member

    For everybody that was nostalgic for 90's-era Nick, I'm sorry you weren't around in the days of Danger Mouse, Turkey TV, and Eureka's Castle.

    Old Nick? I'm talking ANCIENT Nick! :)
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  20. minor muppetz

    minor muppetz Well-Known Member

    Back in 1999 when Nickelodeon had a weekend-long 20th anniversary marathon, I had seen it pointed out that none of the channel's really early shows were included (You Can't Do That on Television would be the earliest, but all the episodes shown were ones with Alanis Morresette, which I think are from 1985), and I was disappointed because I'd just started learning about the early history of Nick and wanted to see some of the shows. But now I think I care a lot less about a lot of '80s Nick shows that ended before I knew of the channel (I think I'd like to see Turkey Television, though).
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